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#1 Pr2

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Posted 27 November 2014 - 13:14

Hi,

 

Sometimes when zapping we find picons that are wrong for some channels (channel change its name, its logo or a new channel is broadcasted), would be nice to have a feature to remove the picon assigned to this channel by pressing Menu in the channel selection list and there have an option remove picon (with a number assigned to this new feature as quick shortcut).

 

Especially now with the possibility to suppress the channel name and display only the Picon it is important to have the right picon. 

 

The idea is not to delete the picon but move it to a backup folder.

So create a folder "backup" in the current picon folder and move the removed picons to this folder, so we don't lose the wrong picon it will be stored in the backup folder.

 

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Re: New feature request: an option to remove a picon assigned to a channel #2 littlesat

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Posted 27 November 2014 - 13:58

Or rename it by adding .del to the png or link....

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Re: New feature request: an option to remove a picon assigned to a channel #3 Huevos

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Posted 27 November 2014 - 17:11

This was one of the reasons for creating service name picon fallback. If the channel changes name the picon will disappear. And if the channel change service reference the picon will continue to display.

Re: New feature request: an option to remove a picon assigned to a channel #4 Pr2

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Posted 27 November 2014 - 21:34

@littlesat,

 

Yes we can do this too, even if I prefer to have them moved. So this will decrease the number of picons in the main folder and you can have a quick look in the backup folder to check if you want to delete them or keep them for further use.

 

@Huevos,

 

I know this new feature but the problem remains the same, we can still have useless picons (no longer used or assigned) in the picon folder.

 

We can add an option to perform an automatic picon clean-up, by creating a list of all service reference + the same list with the name (with the same name cleanup as the one you use + -> plus, etc...; so this should be clearly documented somewhere so everybody can know how to clean up name) then compare each picon file towards this list to know if it remains in the folder or is moved into the backup folder. This will allow to keep picon folder clean.

 

But automatic clean up will probably not work in all case (especially porn channels are used to change there name but keep the same service reference so if picon is by service ref it will be the wrong one), so the manual option to remove picon is still needed.

 

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Re: New feature request: an option to remove a picon assigned to a channel #5 ims

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Posted 27 November 2014 - 21:44

Hi,

 

Sometimes when zapping we find picons that are wrong for some channels (channel change its name, its logo or a new channel is broadcasted), would be nice to have a feature to remove the picon assigned to this channel by pressing Menu in the channel selection list and there have an option remove picon (with a number assigned to this new feature as quick shortcut).

 

Especially now with the possibility to suppress the channel name and display only the Picon it is important to have the right picon. 

 

The idea is not to delete the picon but move it to a backup folder.

So create a folder "backup" in the current picon folder and move the removed picons to this folder, so we don't lose the wrong picon it will be stored in the backup folder.

 

Pr2

Why you not using SetPicon plugin from feed? You can assign any picon to any service, delete it, backup all used picon to selected directory... as name, as service ref ...

You can using source dir with your icon and atached picons are saved into /picon

 

Use Help button in plugin for more info


Edited by ims, 27 November 2014 - 21:46.

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Re: New feature request: an option to remove a picon assigned to a channel #6 Pr2

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Posted 28 November 2014 - 14:19

Hi,

 

I just install your plugin and test it, sorry but it doesn't do what is asked here.

I didn't find how to just suppress an assigned picon to a channel, I can assign another one but not just delete the wrong one.

Moreover displaying 5 picons while I have a list of more than 3300 picons is not really userfriendly, would be better if we can have at leasst a full screen list of picon thumbnails where we can select the right one.

 

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Re: New feature request: an option to remove a picon assigned to a channel #7 ims

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Posted 28 November 2014 - 14:37

There Is not problem make more miniatures, if you have than a lot of time :D


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Re: New feature request: an option to remove a picon assigned to a channel #8 Taapat

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Posted 28 November 2014 - 15:37

@Pr2, you have 3300 picons, and you want manage them one by one?
I think better to try for example a Dreamboxedit. He has a choice- delete unused picons.

I think that such option should not be included in enigma, but should be a separate plugin. If SetPicon missing such an option, maybe then need add it in this plugin?


Edited by Taapat, 28 November 2014 - 15:39.


Re: New feature request: an option to remove a picon assigned to a channel #9 Pr2

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Posted 28 November 2014 - 16:21

I have my own script that generates picons I don't create manually picons it is (nearly) a full automatic process. The fact is that if the picons exist the script skip the creation of it,  so it is good if wrong picons are no longer available in the picon folder so the script can try to generate the right one. Of course I can also always regenerate all picons from scratch but it is not the goal.

 

After some time picons can become wrong because channel changes, so I'd like to have an easy way to remove the picon assigned that I can only detect when zapping.

I know DreamboxEdit and its features but this doesn't solve the problem of service_ref still existing but channel logo/name change reusing the same service_ref. The only way is then to manually detete the picons.

 

Yes I agree with you that this picon clean needs to be done in a plugin since not everybody is interested in this feature, but this plugin should be alligned with the picon by name way of working too otherwhise it will not be efficient. I wonder if the "channel clean-up name" done for the picon by name should not be part of the system in order to have plugin calling it so it will always be sync with the OpenPLi way of working (some king of API).

 

If SetPicon can include the remove picon feature from the channel list menu option it would be nice.

 

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Re: New feature request: an option to remove a picon assigned to a channel #10 ims

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Posted 28 November 2014 - 16:27

you need remove assigned picon ? Remove it  = remove it from /picon ?


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Re: New feature request: an option to remove a picon assigned to a channel #11 Rob van der Does

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Posted 28 November 2014 - 16:44

There is no need anymore for the use of servicereferences; you can give channel names to the picons. They very seldom change.



Re: New feature request: an option to remove a picon assigned to a channel #12 Taapat

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Posted 28 November 2014 - 16:54

Channel names of the picons not work if in the channel name is for example the cyrillic characters. I did not look in more detail what encoding it is used for it, but in this moment the channel names to picons is not the universal solution.



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Posted 28 November 2014 - 22:20

you need remove assigned picon ? Remove it  = remove it from /picon ?

 

Yes create a folder backup into the picon folder  (/picon/backup for exemple) and move the picon there, so the picon is not lost you can retrieve it there or you can rename it by adding and extension .del or .old to make them unusable so we can later on easily move them elsewhere with a simple mv command.


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Re: New feature request: an option to remove a picon assigned to a channel #14 ims

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Posted 28 November 2014 - 22:44

better will be add options to setting for delete ( now is under "8") - "before delete move to Removed directory:" Yes/No and move picon without any change. Then you can set input directory to this "Removed" dir (and output dir to /picon) and assigning it again.

Btw, plugin works with Service name and Service reference too.


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Re: New feature request: an option to remove a picon assigned to a channel #15 ims

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Posted 28 November 2014 - 23:51

done (v.50).

 

tip: with "Yellow" you can found picon/service (with B+/- you toggle between: looking picon in picons list for current service OR looking service in current bouquet for picon in green rectangle) and then with "8" delete/move.

 

For move instead delete set Yes in setting and configure directory with "OK"


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Re: New feature request: an option to remove a picon assigned to a channel #16 Huevos

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Posted 29 November 2014 - 01:34

Channel names of the picons not work if in the channel name is for example the cyrillic characters. I did not look in more detail what encoding it is used for it, but in this moment the channel names to picons is not the universal solution.

That is correct. Has to be compatible with the file system.



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Posted 29 November 2014 - 22:10

@IMS,

 

Thanks for the implementation, it works but need a lot of keystroke and you should display somewhere the key '8' hidden feature, but what is strange is that we always need to use the search (yellow button) before using the key 8.  Isn't it more logical that 8 delete the picon currently assigned and not the one displayed in your own selection screen. Do you think that people want to delete the picon from the selection screen?

Quite confusing the first time I press 8 key without pressing yellow (search) before.

 

Cannot we image to have key 8 for removing the currently assigned picon and another key (5 for example) to delete the currently selected picon (if needed).

 

Another remarks all my former setup of setpicon are lost after the online update, isn't it possible to keep the old setup, it is boring to need to reconfigure everything after each online update of the plugin.

 

Another remark with the current approach it is not possible to create a backup/removed folder so we need to first create it to be able to browse to it and define it in setpicon. Do you think possible to have an option in the browser to create folder?

 

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Posted 29 November 2014 - 22:37

 

Another remark with the current approach it is not possible to create a backup/removed folder so we need to first create it to be able to browse to it and define it in setpicon. Do you think possible to have an option in the browser to create folder

 

Why you cannot create directory ? When you configure directories, there is submenu for create/delete ...  Standard function in E2

Another remarks all my former setup of setpicon are lost after the online update, isn't it possible to keep the old setup, it is boring to need to reconfigure everything after each online update of the plugin.

Do not understand ...which setting ?

you should display somewhere the key '8' hidden feature

Why, there on RC's exist button "Help"

 

 

About "8" and Yellow before ... plugin must found picon in list and it can found more picons for it (ref, name) and user then must choose, which...

Removing picon is not so standard, better is assign it immediately new.  When is possible use picons as name in E2 yet, i think, there will be minimal deleting in future :-)


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Re: New feature request: an option to remove a picon assigned to a channel #19 Pr2

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Posted 30 November 2014 - 12:42

...

Another remarks all my former setup of setpicon are lost after the online update, isn't it possible to keep the old setup, it is boring to need to reconfigure everything after each online update of the plugin.

Do not understand ...which setting ?

 

 

I install first former version of 5.0 of your plugin and go into the menu option to configure the picon path, default behavior preferences, ...  all of those settings where lost with the last online update of OpenPLi that also install version 5.0 of your plugin. So I need to configure back all my setting (folder path,....)

 

About the folder creation I will check it, thanks for the tip.


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Posted 30 November 2014 - 12:56

Seting are stored in setting of all enigma...

is it a question, if you between update/refresh box made one restart gui...  settings file is in memory to restart gui, then is saved.

I have nothing problem with setting in SetPicon.

 

About creating directories ... open it with OK on some directory in Options - then you can use Menu button.

You can toggle with Bouq+/Bouq-. Toggle from Bookmark to Directory for ... and use Menu button.

Btw, you can create bookmarks for better works too.


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