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Re: Two issues when using 'alternatives'. #21 littlesat

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Posted 17 May 2015 - 21:40

And you also can call me little.... I'm not little, but 20 years ago or so i choose this alias I had a little dish in comparision with my frend who had a 2.2 meter dish... ;)

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Re: Two issues when using 'alternatives'. #22 Rob van der Does

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Posted 17 May 2015 - 21:46

Sorry then i do not understand.... As far I know it marked a recorded service and a alternativr bouquet thwt contains a recorded service....???

In my first screenshot you see the record indication for 'NPO1 HD' & 'NPO1', while only a recording takes place from 'NPO1'
This suggests that two recordings are being made and hence two tuners are engaded, while actually only one recording takes place.

In my settings 'NPO1 HD' has 'NPO1' assigned as alternative service.

Re: Two issues when using 'alternatives'. #23 littlesat

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Posted 17 May 2015 - 22:00

Sorry I still do not get it... Or better does vix has a solution?

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Re: Two issues when using 'alternatives'. #24 Rob van der Does

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Posted 17 May 2015 - 22:02

I'm not aware of any image that has fixed this (same issue on ViX/ATV/XTA).

Re: Two issues when using 'alternatives'. #25 littlesat

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Posted 17 May 2015 - 22:06

I checked the source code and I could not find where it when wrong not I could veriy this....

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Re: Two issues when using 'alternatives'. #26 Rob van der Does

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Posted 17 May 2015 - 22:07

Verifying must be quite simple, as it is 100% reproducible here (using PLi/ViX/ATV/XTA).

Re: Two issues when using 'alternatives'. #27 littlesat

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Posted 17 May 2015 - 22:10

Sorry I'm not able to verify it... It could also be i really do not understand it...

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Re: Two issues when using 'alternatives'. #28 littlesat

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Posted 17 May 2015 - 22:19

I just verified it here.... Here the recording red dots are indicating the correct way....

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Re: Two issues when using 'alternatives'. #29 Rob van der Does

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 05:23

So only one service shows as being recorded?

Re: Two issues when using 'alternatives'. #30 littlesat

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 06:33

I have here a userbouquet with ziggo, digitenne, cds hd and cds sd and an alternative with all four. When I record e.g. From cds hd then cds hd and the alternative get the red dot. When I record from digitenne, then digitenne and the alternative get the red dot and when I record from e.g. Cds hd and also digitenne I get three dots... This is exactly as it was designed... It makes red dots if one of the services in an alternative is recorded......

Edited by littlesat, 18 May 2015 - 06:34.

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Re: Two issues when using 'alternatives'. #31 Dimitrij

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 06:47

littlesat

In my opinion your solution successful.

In this case, we really see what service is being recorded.

 

 

Rob van der Does

Try to install the plugin http://forums.openpl...ndpost&p=464404 to feed records to display.


Edited by Dimitrij, 18 May 2015 - 06:52.

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Re: Two issues when using 'alternatives'. #32 Rob van der Does

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 06:52

So the design is faulty.
How could it be correct that (in your case even) 2 services show as being recorded while they aren't?
There is no logic in showing wrong information; what could possibly be the benefit of that?
This gives you the idea that multiple tuners are engaged, while only one actually is.

Edited by Rob van der Does, 18 May 2015 - 06:52.


Re: Two issues when using 'alternatives'. #33 Dimitrij

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 06:54

If you know that this service is an alternative to, the design is all right :) .


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Re: Two issues when using 'alternatives'. #34 Rob van der Does

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 06:55

Anyway: if that's the logic you see in it, I'll stop using alternatives. I hate being lied to, even by a machine.

Re: Two issues when using 'alternatives'. #35 Rob van der Does

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 06:56

If you know that this service is an alternative to, the design is all right :) .

So you want me to remember all alternative relations? And even if I did: what would be the benefit of presenting wrong information?

Re: Two issues when using 'alternatives'. #36 Rob van der Does

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 06:58

If you know that this service is an alternative to, the design is all right :) .

So you want me to remember all alternative relations? And even if I did: what would be the benefit of presenting wrong information?

And not only should I remember the alternative relations, but also the actual timers to get the real picture.
This can't be true....

Re: Two issues when using 'alternatives'. #37 littlesat

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 06:59

Usually I expect you do not put the plain service and the alternative in one user bouquet. I usually expect you put only the alternative in a user bouquet. So when you only have the alternative in a bouquet you do not see that one of them is recorded!.... When you view the alternative bouquet you can see it in more detail...
I'm really afraid for you this is made as it should be...

An alternative is not a service! So it simply indicates the sevice is recorded and the other indicates one of the services within the alternative is recorded....

Edited by littlesat, 18 May 2015 - 07:02.

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Re: Two issues when using 'alternatives'. #38 Rob van der Does

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 07:02

It doesn't matter in which bouquets they are; the point is that services show as being recorded while they aren't.
Can you please explain the benefit of presenting wrong information, instead of saying it's a feature?

Re: Two issues when using 'alternatives'. #39 Huevos

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 07:19

Rob can test our latest py works ok in PLi, and if so push that to E2 plugins.

Re: Two issues when using 'alternatives'. #40 Dimitrij

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 07:26

I just expressed my opinion.

And by the way otherwise we did not see any indication for an alternative service.


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