Android on the dreambox or android based STB -has- to be the way to go. It's also true that Google is working with dish network of america and also sony to make it happen. Is it possible on our current stbs?
Android based Dreambox?
Started by windozer, 23 Mar 2010 09:22
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Posted 23 March 2010 - 11:14
that would be cool!
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Posted 23 March 2010 - 13:06
What exiting new features do you expect that Android will bring to the dreambox?
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What exiting new features do you expect that Android will bring to the dreambox?
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Posted 23 March 2010 - 18:19
neither ppc nor mipsel have java extensions, so expect things to be really slow on a dreambox.
You really need a arm with java extensions (jazelle) or a fast pc, in order to run android
You really need a arm with java extensions (jazelle) or a fast pc, in order to run android
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Posted 23 March 2010 - 19:36
That would seem to be unlikely as unlike the rest of the world, Dish Network does not allow 3rd party equipment to be used with their service. You HAVE to use their IRD, so I can't see them working on android for the DB...
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 02:50
Was thinking could Enigma2 run on Raspberry Pi ? $35 with 700MHz ARM & 256MB Ram, runs Fedora, Archlinux, Debian.
Would make a nice cheap small box.
Would make a nice cheap small box.
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 13:24
@Jahu,
Try to run OpenpliPC on your Raspberry PI.
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 10:01
Was thinking could Enigma2 run on Raspberry Pi ? $35 with 700MHz ARM & 256MB Ram, runs Fedora, Archlinux, Debian.
Would make a nice cheap small box.
What good would that do ?Replacing a good linux for a Crippled one (openpli).With openpli i Can't even mount an iso9660 data CD or ext2 partition in my DM 7000 box.And they compile every day but using old busybox 1.01 and don't give a list of what they have changed.So vor Satbox openpli is usable for everything else use a real linux!!
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 16:17
If you want to know what is changed, subscribe to the mailing lists, check the repository commit logs or follow us on twitter. Don't say we don't provide the info.
OpenPLi is primarily designed to run on a satbox, and not to run your coffee machine or your fridge. So it's quite logical some things found in "desktop" distro's are missing in OpenPLi.
A DM7000 is an antique, with the specs of a 1995 Compaq iPAC PDA, equipped with a handful of bytes of flash, so it's running an extremely stripped linux version to make it fit. What do you expect?
OpenPLi is primarily designed to run on a satbox, and not to run your coffee machine or your fridge. So it's quite logical some things found in "desktop" distro's are missing in OpenPLi.
A DM7000 is an antique, with the specs of a 1995 Compaq iPAC PDA, equipped with a handful of bytes of flash, so it's running an extremely stripped linux version to make it fit. What do you expect?
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 16:18
On more recent stb's (with decent storage) we're using busybox 1.19.4 at the moment
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 17:51
Was thinking could Enigma2 run on Raspberry Pi ? $35 with 700MHz ARM & 256MB Ram, runs Fedora, Archlinux, Debian.
Would make a nice cheap small box.
What good would that do ?Replacing a good linux for a Crippled one (openpli).With openpli i Can't even mount an iso9660 data CD or ext2 partition in my DM 7000 box.And they compile every day but using old busybox 1.01 and don't give a list of what they have changed.So vor Satbox openpli is usable for everything else use a real linux!!
Actually openpli is a real Unix for that matter and android isn't. Basically Android is just a java interpreter on top of a linux kernel (the other 'unix like tools on it are basically there to setup the hardware an start java applications)...
Geen wonder... Had slechts een dm7000, maar wel ook een rotor. eigenlijk al een tijdje ook een dm600 en dm7025. Maar nu kijkend met een et9000 en vuduo
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:22
@mirakels,
I dit not mean android (i know nothing about it ) the Raspberry coms with a linux and there is a media player linux for it .
Ani i think there are comming more versions.
@WanWizard ,
Sorry i dit not know that, Where can i find the repository commit logs?
I know the DM 7000 an old box but not antique (i do not like trowing away good working hardware after only a few years).
Think the computer i am writing this post on has les power (Via Samuel2 500MHZ) and is running fine (2004 made).
On what I expect from ANY linux a minimal compatibility with the standard (at least mounting enything native to linux )
With the ability of multi booting and a hard disk or flash the linux can grow!
So no need to keep using extremly stripped linux.
And i read that the modern pli for enigma2 can't even play H264/xvid/divx properly on its own without pc correct me if i'm wrong zo as media player unusable.
I dit not mean android (i know nothing about it ) the Raspberry coms with a linux and there is a media player linux for it .
Ani i think there are comming more versions.
@WanWizard ,
Sorry i dit not know that, Where can i find the repository commit logs?
I know the DM 7000 an old box but not antique (i do not like trowing away good working hardware after only a few years).
Think the computer i am writing this post on has les power (Via Samuel2 500MHZ) and is running fine (2004 made).
On what I expect from ANY linux a minimal compatibility with the standard (at least mounting enything native to linux )
With the ability of multi booting and a hard disk or flash the linux can grow!
So no need to keep using extremly stripped linux.
And i read that the modern pli for enigma2 can't even play H264/xvid/divx properly on its own without pc correct me if i'm wrong zo as media player unusable.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:58
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We've been making images for the DM7000 since it was released (2004?) and before that for the DM5600, and it has always been a struggle to get and keep a working box within the limits of the 8MB flash. The only solution was to strip everything that could be stripped without impact of the box' usability (as an STB platform). You can forget doing anything decent with a DM7000.
With regards to H264/xvid/divx: this has nothing to do with the software. The CPU's are WAY to weak to decode in software, so the box can play it if the hardware supports it, AND if the manufacturer has bought the licenses needed to enable the feature in their drivers. If the drivers don't do it, our image doesn't do it. Please direct your complaints to the manufacturer.
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We've been making images for the DM7000 since it was released (2004?) and before that for the DM5600, and it has always been a struggle to get and keep a working box within the limits of the 8MB flash. The only solution was to strip everything that could be stripped without impact of the box' usability (as an STB platform). You can forget doing anything decent with a DM7000.
With regards to H264/xvid/divx: this has nothing to do with the software. The CPU's are WAY to weak to decode in software, so the box can play it if the hardware supports it, AND if the manufacturer has bought the licenses needed to enable the feature in their drivers. If the drivers don't do it, our image doesn't do it. Please direct your complaints to the manufacturer.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 14:41
And i read that the modern pli for enigma2 can't even play H264/xvid/divx properly on its own without pc correct me if i'm wrong zo as media player unusable.
Enigma2 on my dm8000 does play it all very well.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 17:28
@ Meega, than i read wrong or not all boxes are doing so well.
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Thanks.
Why keep stripping everything out to put in 8MB internal flash while we can use internal CF or Harddisk or external usb stick?
I have now about 6 images on my CF card and see not mutch difference.
Why using openpli?
My posts are not ment to be complains , i only am a bit disapointed (the dreambox used to be the best box those days, now I am happy i dit not buy).
For now i wil use the DM 7000 for sat viewing only and the dvd players needs to be around for more years multimedia.
@Wan Wizard
Thanks.
Why keep stripping everything out to put in 8MB internal flash while we can use internal CF or Harddisk or external usb stick?
I have now about 6 images on my CF card and see not mutch difference.
Why using openpli?
My posts are not ment to be complains , i only am a bit disapointed (the dreambox used to be the best box those days, now I am happy i dit not buy).
For now i wil use the DM 7000 for sat viewing only and the dvd players needs to be around for more years multimedia.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 17:54
Bottom line: it's an STB.
It's build for people that want to watch TV, and don't know (we're talking 2004) what a USB stick is. People like your and my parents. Not for a handful of geeks who want to use it to make coffee, simply because it runs Linux. Besides that, there hasn't been any development on the 7000 image for the last few years, it's an end-of-life box.
Want a full distro, get full spec hardware.
It's build for people that want to watch TV, and don't know (we're talking 2004) what a USB stick is. People like your and my parents. Not for a handful of geeks who want to use it to make coffee, simply because it runs Linux. Besides that, there hasn't been any development on the 7000 image for the last few years, it's an end-of-life box.
Want a full distro, get full spec hardware.
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 05:53
My posts are not ment to be complains , i only am a bit disapointed (the dreambox used to be the best box those days, now I am happy i dit not buy).
For now i wil use the DM 7000 for sat viewing only and the dvd players needs to be around for more years multimedia.
How can you be disappointed with the fact that an antique STB (antique in computer terms) can't do the same things as a modern STB.
It's the same with cars, or do you expect that Ford will bring out updated parts for the model T?
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 09:15
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