I repeat.
Mipsel based chipset boxes (Vu+ currents and SE) will continue to run enigma2
New line of Arm based boxes will run Xbmc.
Satco Europe GmbH wins against Dream Property GmbH
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Re: Satco Europe GmbH wins against Dream Property GmbH #21
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 15:54
Any proof, please? Which ones, any specs etc.?
Apparently, BDCM could make new opencl video drivers for older chips and then it could work... maybe...
Apparently, BDCM could make new opencl video drivers for older chips and then it could work... maybe...
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 16:02
I repeat.
Mipsel based chipset boxes (Vu+ currents and SE) will continue to run enigma2
New line of Arm based boxes will run Xbmc.
As you know XBMC on ARM is quite limited as because development was never serious for ARM based devices, so that is reason why I asked about that. And still there is no serious contribution from XBMC community for XBMC on ARM.
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 16:23
Really? XBMC for ARM isnt limited. Just check XBMC for AppleTV which works perfectly. I think there are two maintainers for appletv xbmc.
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 17:00
As you know XBMC on ARM is quite limited.
I can assure for my direct experience that is not limited.
But it is true that there are little problems and issues to work around.
Btw i think we will see at the Vu+ stand in Anga Cable the next prototype of Arm based box running Xbmc
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 17:02
So, they are running behind?
<span style='font-family: comic sans ms,cursive'>"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-incurred immaturity. Immaturity is the inability to use one's own understanding without the guidance of another. This immaturity is self-incurred if its cause is not lack of understanding, but lack of resolution and courage to use it without the guidance of another. The motto of enlightenment is therefore: Sapere aude! Have courage to use your own understanding!</span><br /> <br /><span style='font-family: comic sans ms,cursive'>Laziness and cowardice are the reasons why such a large proportion of men, even when nature has long emancipated them from alien guidance..." I. Kant, "Political writings" (1784)</span><br /> <br /><span style='font-family: comic sans ms,cursive'><a class='bbc_url' href='<a class='bbc_url' href='http://eserver.org/p...lightenment.txt'>http://eserver.org/p...ent.txt</a>'><a class='bbc_url' href='http://www.english.upenn.edu/~mgamer/Etexts/kant.html</a>'>http://www.english.upenn.edu/~mgamer/Etexts/kant.html</a></a> - the jolly text on Enlightenment, at the basis of Modernity...</span>
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 17:28
As you know XBMC on ARM is quite limited.
I can assure for my direct experience that is not limited.
But it is true that there are little problems and issues to work around.
Btw i think we will see at the Vu+ stand in Anga Cable the next prototype of Arm based box running Xbmc
Yes, for that reason was my question. Ok I know that it is running under "hacked" Apple TV ofcourse, but issue is that ARM used in AppleTV is quite different than conventional ARM SoC's for other devices. But lets hope that XBMC will run fully on ARM.
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 23:25
<span style='font-family: comic sans ms,cursive'>"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-incurred immaturity. Immaturity is the inability to use one's own understanding without the guidance of another. This immaturity is self-incurred if its cause is not lack of understanding, but lack of resolution and courage to use it without the guidance of another. The motto of enlightenment is therefore: Sapere aude! Have courage to use your own understanding!</span><br /> <br /><span style='font-family: comic sans ms,cursive'>Laziness and cowardice are the reasons why such a large proportion of men, even when nature has long emancipated them from alien guidance..." I. Kant, "Political writings" (1784)</span><br /> <br /><span style='font-family: comic sans ms,cursive'><a class='bbc_url' href='<a class='bbc_url' href='http://eserver.org/p...lightenment.txt'>http://eserver.org/p...ent.txt</a>'><a class='bbc_url' href='http://www.english.upenn.edu/~mgamer/Etexts/kant.html</a>'>http://www.english.upenn.edu/~mgamer/Etexts/kant.html</a></a> - the jolly text on Enlightenment, at the basis of Modernity...</span>
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Can't the TV set do that?
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Posted 22 May 2012 - 08:45
I think that it is very typical DMM released the OE2.0 with browser and HbbTV post the date that Satco Europe winns this court action....
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So, they are running behind?
Really?
Do you think that the Vu+ Duo Second Editions is going behind with the New BCM7424 1.3 GHz dual-threaded that features a 1G pixel per second OpenGL® ES 2.0 3D GPU for advanced 3D graphics acceleration and 2Gb of Ram ?
I don't think so
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Bacio, misunderstanding: late [in relation to what they have envisaged in their plan for XBMC4STB]...
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Thanx for the info, Luar!
The crucial Q will now be the price v. one's needs - since competition will be there, from new GigaBlue onwards...
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The crucial Q will now be the price v. one's needs - since competition will be there, from new GigaBlue onwards...
Let the games begin!
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Bacio, misunderstanding: late [in relation to what they have envisaged in their plan for XBMC4STB]...
I know my english is Horrible but it seems to me not hard to understand:
There is not any kind of back behind.
There are two independent develop lines:
1) Mispel machines with enigma2 (uno Ultimo and Solo & Duo Second editions)
2) Arm machines with Xbmc.
The Arm proptotype runs Xbmc fine without limitations (it have an hadrware decoder inside) and it is really fast.
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Can't the TV set do that?
Hi,
This is no about viewing 3D video in 3D Format
This is about drwaing menus in 3D and so on. Like Bacciosat said, OpenGL support etc. Here is question if it have support for VDPAU, CrystalHD and VAAPI support, as there is no too much options under Linux. So I am not sure how this will look without that...Let's wait and see.
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I'll pretend I understood the geek-talk and all that jargon, hehe...
Still, 3D only for menus? Hmmmm... To a lay person this seems not exactly necessary... We lived without it hitherto, so...???
Bacio, it's not that I didn't understand you but the other way around, it seems to me - I meant they are a bit late on delivering as promised, so they seem not to be on time/target, rather than going backwards with this development. This development, of course, is moving things forward...
Still, 3D only for menus? Hmmmm... To a lay person this seems not exactly necessary... We lived without it hitherto, so...???
Bacio, it's not that I didn't understand you but the other way around, it seems to me - I meant they are a bit late on delivering as promised, so they seem not to be on time/target, rather than going backwards with this development. This development, of course, is moving things forward...
Edited by gorski, 23 May 2012 - 00:20.
<span style='font-family: comic sans ms,cursive'>"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-incurred immaturity. Immaturity is the inability to use one's own understanding without the guidance of another. This immaturity is self-incurred if its cause is not lack of understanding, but lack of resolution and courage to use it without the guidance of another. The motto of enlightenment is therefore: Sapere aude! Have courage to use your own understanding!</span><br /> <br /><span style='font-family: comic sans ms,cursive'>Laziness and cowardice are the reasons why such a large proportion of men, even when nature has long emancipated them from alien guidance..." I. Kant, "Political writings" (1784)</span><br /> <br /><span style='font-family: comic sans ms,cursive'><a class='bbc_url' href='<a class='bbc_url' href='http://eserver.org/p...lightenment.txt'>http://eserver.org/p...ent.txt</a>'><a class='bbc_url' href='http://www.english.upenn.edu/~mgamer/Etexts/kant.html</a>'>http://www.english.upenn.edu/~mgamer/Etexts/kant.html</a></a> - the jolly text on Enlightenment, at the basis of Modernity...</span>
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Posted 23 May 2012 - 01:07
Bacio, misunderstanding: late [in relation to what they have envisaged in their plan for XBMC4STB]...
I know my english is Horrible but it seems to me not hard to understand:
There is not any kind of back behind.
There are two independent develop lines:
1) Mispel machines with enigma2 (uno Ultimo and Solo & Duo Second editions)
2) Arm machines with Xbmc.
The Arm proptotype runs Xbmc fine without limitations (it have an hadrware decoder inside) and it is really fast.
raspberry xbmc works even good and cost only 50 dollar with a nice casing. Problem is to combine with dvb so XBMC4STB.
Xbmc should even been possible to run on mipsel. It will probably only need own development what I haven't seen yet from vu+.
Lets see on Anga cable what they have developed.
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Posted 23 May 2012 - 02:10
Indeed... Solo II/Duo II with XBMC, also or only?
Or only ARM BEagle with XBMC?
Or what...?
Or only ARM BEagle with XBMC?
Or what...?
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