31 replies to this topic

[Persian Prince]

hi PLi team

can we use

https://schwerkraft....s.git;a=summary

instead of very old

http://openpli.git.s...igma2;a=summary

?

it's really a good thing if we can because your git is very old and we wanna experience new plugins/features

even OE Alliance is using it : https://github.com/o...enigma2-plugins

i think we just need to change plugins that coming with cpp files

[littlesat]

On some plugins from schwerkraft there are license issues.... As far I understand this is the reason why we should freeze them (e.g. mytube, webinterface).... This should even be valid for the OE-Aliance (I do not know if they follow the licenses correctly)....

When there are no licence issues our schwerkraft "clone" should be undergo a big merge.... But are there big/huge improvements that we can use???

Edited by littlesat, 29 August 2012 - 18:03.

[Persian Prince]

i don't care about licenses but i think you can merge with latest commits and ignore those plugins

?

[littlesat]

But what are the really big improvements???

[Persian Prince]

you can follow the commits , they added new plugins new features ...

[littlesat]

By reading the commits I do not see what exactly very urgents we do miss now....

[hemertje]

i don't care about licenses but i think you can merge with latest commits and ignore those plugins

?

but we do care and we respect them, so if the licenses forbids us to use them, so be it...
opensource is more powerful then a closedsource manufacturer, time will tell them

[Frogman]

well spoken!

[Dream1975]

As far I understand this is the reason why we should freeze them (e.g. mytube, webinterface)....

This is not true, PLi can use the plugins freely the author stated (thus also the newest versions) as long as they keep the tmpd check (that's also why mytube etc is only available in de DM download).

When there are no licence issues our schwerkraft "clone" should be undergo a big merge.... But are there big/huge improvements that we can use???

I would prefer if this would happen. So we have the latest functionality available (also if there has to be made a big leap in the future there is a big change on multiple GSOD's etc if the PLi version is very old, with keeping up to date this can be tested and adjusted constantly

Edited by Dream1975, 30 August 2012 - 06:46.

[Dream1975]

Schwerkraft licence:
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6
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9
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13
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[ims]

license Creative Commons x license GPL2 ?

[Rob van der Does]

Yes, the famous mixed (up) license ........

[Persian Prince]

exactly , we can use new plugins but TPM plugins should only be used on dreambox

we can ignore whole old http://openpli.git.s...igma2;a=summary git or remove it then create a new git for example with original-e2-plugins name

we just need to add

AC_ARG_WITH(tpm,
AS_HELP_STRING([--with-tpm], [enable plugins that require a TPM]),
[with_tpm="$withval"],[with_tpm="no"])
if test "$with_tpm" = "yes"; then
AC_DEFINE([HAVE_TPM],[1],[Define to 1 to enable plugins that require a TPM])
fi
AM_CONDITIONAL(TPM, test "$with_tpm" = "yes")

to configure.ac and split tpm plugins with

if TPM
SUBDIRS += \
genuinedreambox \
mytube \
yttrailer \
webinterface
endif

in Makefile.am

then work on git for new functions (together)

we need to change cpp files and enigma2 too

Edited by Persian Prince, 30 August 2012 - 07:45.

[littlesat]

There are also enoug plugins with the exception that it "may pnlu be used on DMM hardware..."

But feel free to deliver us a merge patch... OpenPli is openSource so everyone can help us. (instead of creating a fork and tell the community it is their own)

When there are good reasons and improvement please give us some suggestions then WE could merge that specific plugin. What do you really miss?

When we go back to pure schwerkraft a lot of our own patches are missed.... In the past we forked from schwerkraft because we had too many patch files... So it really needs to be merged.

Edited by littlesat, 30 August 2012 - 07:54.

[Rob van der Does]

So if I understand correctly:
you want to leave the tpm-check in place (as required by the 'license'), but add functionality that this check will only be executed on DM-boxes?

[littlesat]

We do not add functionality that it will only work on DMM boxes... The devs on schwerkraft are doing this as they want that their plugin will only work on DMM boxes. So we leave the orriginal check in there since a bit more then a year ( I know it was on the request by schwerkraft devs - but we do respect licenses).

At least I see that OE-alliance shamelessly violate at least the mytube license.. Everything from the etpm is patched out (search on etpm)
https://github.com/o...e/src/plugin.py

Edited by littlesat, 30 August 2012 - 08:34.

[Rob van der Does]

We do not add functionality that it will only work on DMM boxes...

lol, no of course you don't. Please read what is being written before making such a remark.....

At least I see that OE-alliance shamelessly violate at least the mytube license.. Everything from the etpm is patched out (search on etpm)
https://github.com/o...e/src/plugin.py

Maybe it's a good idea to have a better look before making acquisitions like that? Apparently you have no idea how the OE-alliance work

[pieterg]

license Creative Commons x license GPL2 ?

Indeed, they do not mix. We cannot use non-gpl plugins with gpl e2.
(and vice versa, they cannot use our GPL plugins with their non-gpl e2)

[MiLo]

..Everything from the etpm is patched out (search on etpm)..

Which is something I would even advise DMM owners to do - not only does it stupidly waste CPU cycles, there was also a recource leak in the (closed!) part of the eTPM code which made the box run out of resources slowly (i suspect it was leaking file handles). Dunno if that leak is still there.

Edited by MiLo, 30 August 2012 - 09:07.

[MiLo]

Best thing to do is create a new plugin (e.g. YourTube), and release it under GPL or compatible license. Should not be hard, given the existing plugin...