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[Rob3rt]

I am a vu+ duo user for sometime now but i not sattisfied of the performance of this box.
It crashes very often, 9 out of 10 times when it is updating the epg etc.
I reinstalled PLI so many times allready but after a while the crashes keep coming back.

I think the cause is simple the lack of a powerfull enough cpu and memory to run al the things which are available and installed, therefore it becomes unstable and crashes (restart itself and all epg data is everytime lost)

I now want to sell the vu+ duo and get a new, better sat box.

I have no idea what to buy, when i got the vu+ there where only dreambox and the vu+ then was sold as "alternave", better "clone" as the dreambox.

Looking for a box with dual tuners, powerfull enough to run al apps, suitable to fit a (ssd) harddisk for recording and should be able to use cccam etc (i know, a forbidden word/topic on this forum) and QUIT, so no enoying fans which you can hear a block away... (as in the vu+).

Anyone any idea or advise what these days is a good deal/buy?
O..... ofcourse it should be reasonble priced.

[metoo]

Et9200 or 9500

[Erik Slagter]

Did you already try a swap device? It may fix some of the crashes, especially if you have a lot of EPG data (which is held in memory).

[Pr2]

Hi,

Strange that you have such problem, VU+ are normally reported to be working fine.

What is your exact configuration?
Do you have an internal HDD or an USB stick attached to your VU+?
How many satellites do you get?
How many EPG lists are you trying to load?
What plugins do you have installed on your box?
Which softcam (if any) are you using?
Where do you place your softcam logs?

I think that your problems came from a wrong configuration somewhere and even if you change STB you will get the same problem.

Pr2

[Erik Slagter]

The problems with VU+DUO are well known, it's probably a memory leak in the drivers. If you use a lot of memory (epg...) you will run into problems (read: crashes) sooner than otherwise. Using a swap device may delay the period between crashes. We've had a topic in Dutch about this, and there A LOT of users with unexplainable crashes, so it must be either a hardware or a driver issue.

[Rob3rt]

I am using the box now for about 2.5 years and the crashes are present the last 1,5 year.

It is not so that it crashes everyday but more once a week and almost always when it is updating the (rytec) epg list.
Do i run a lot of addons?
No only 1 skin(glassskin, which i really love), rytec epg+source, vu+ fan control and a app (dunno the name) for changing the mapping of my remote control buttons.

I use 1 HD, a 128GB SSD to be exact, but the crashes where already present before i added this SSD to my setup. Adding the SSD no effect in the crashes what so ever.

How many satteliets?
I use the hotbird 13, astra 19, 23 and 28 east, they are all dual lnb, this setup is present from day 1 a have the vu+
Which epg data source i load, mainly, dutch, english channels such as sky uk/bbc, erotic channels and german channels, nothing more.
The softcam i use is ccam, latest version, but also here does not matter which version i use it keeps crashing.

@Erik_Slagter
I use a completely default (pli) setup, no (extra) swap etc Don't know exactly if and how it is possible too use a swap partition on SSD.

What happens when it crashes is that the box does not respond anymore, in top left corner 2 icons are turning but nothing happens again.
Sometimes after 1 or 2 minutes waiting the box return to life but also a change you have to hard reset it (power off).
The crash it self is not my biggest problem, i "hate" more that after every crash i have to completely reload/sync the whole epg data again (on which it crash mostlikely).
Don't exactly know why the developer did not choose to save the epg data in a file or database and is accessed (when needed) from this file/database instead of running in the memory.

I believe myself it is indeed a memory (leak) problem, just to little memory for the apps on the box. All apps and OS get bigger, more advanced (what i like) but the hit the hardware limit of the box.
Therefore i was thinking of selling the box and get someting new with "more power" to prevent this from happening again.

[Erik Slagter]

No, the VU+DUO has really enough memory for all of this. The problem is the drivers that leak memory. Memory being leaked by kernel and drivers cannot be reclaimed in any way, while a memory leak in enigma (including all plugins) can be recovered by stopping and starting enigma.

[Rob3rt]

ok thx.

I think the best choice is an ET9500 from what i read until now at the moment, if i don't want to spend dreambox8000HD money
Do you guys agree on this?!

Don't want to make a mistake and buy one which i cannot use...

ps.
googled on the et9500, but there is not very much information on it, can't even find the manufactory website whit detailed product info, this i find strange i must admit.

[WanWizard]

ET is a 'distributor' brand, not a manufacturer brand. In other works, the company selling them isn't the one designing and manufacturing them, there are made to spec by an OEM.

Originally started by Clark-Tech in Germany (http://www.clarke-te...ntryid=41&lang=), and that's why you can see people refer to a CT9000 sometimes. Not sure what went on between Clark-Tech and the distributor (discussion about territory perhaps?), but the distributor went on alone, using the name Xtrend, see http://www.et-view.com/

[Rob3rt]

it keeps getting stranger by the minute
On both websites (thx for the links!) the 9500 is not even listed, it is getting very confused, haha

So the ET 9500 == CT9500, but both are not listed on listed sites.
I can find them on several webshops as ET9500, no where as CT9500

Also there is a 9200 model, from the description it looks identical to the 9500.
As you see i really don't know it anymore, sadly my local sat dealer does not have these products so i have to buy them online somewhere.

[WanWizard]

No.

There is an ET9000 and a CT9000. The 9200 and 9500 are developments from Xtrend, and therefore ET only. For the 9500, see http://www.et-view-s...ESENTATION-NEW.

I think the biggest difference is that the 9500 has pluggable tuners, where the tuners in the 9200 are fixed.

[daimon]

I also have a lot of confusion with these receivers et6500 family belongs to that you can fill pli for this receiver I want to buy?

[WanWizard]

I don't understand your question, what exactly do you want to know?

[daimon]

who owns et xtrend 6500? you can fill pli for this receiver excuse my English

[viasat]

You'll find OpenPli images for all ET models,for ET6500 it's here http://openpli.org/download/et6x00/ .Cheers!

[Frenske]

who owns et xtrend 6500? you can fill pli for this receiver excuse my English

The image ET6x00 is the right image for the Xtrend ET6500. And Viasat already posed the right link.

[daimon]

thanks now I get to build et6500 right et6x00

[mauri]

I am using the box now for about 2.5 years and the crashes are present the last 1,5 year.

It is not so that it crashes everyday but more once a week and almost always when it is updating the (rytec) epg list.
Do i run a lot of addons?
No only 1 skin(glassskin, which i really love), rytec epg+source, vu+ fan control and a app (dunno the name) for changing the mapping of my remote control buttons.

I use 1 HD, a 128GB SSD to be exact, but the crashes where already present before i added this SSD to my setup. Adding the SSD no effect in the crashes what so ever.

How many satteliets?
I use the hotbird 13, astra 19, 23 and 28 east, they are all dual lnb, this setup is present from day 1 a have the vu+
Which epg data source i load, mainly, dutch, english channels such as sky uk/bbc, erotic channels and german channels, nothing more.
The softcam i use is ccam, latest version, but also here does not matter which version i use it keeps crashing.

@Erik_Slagter
I use a completely default (pli) setup, no (extra) swap etc Don't know exactly if and how it is possible too use a swap partition on SSD.

What happens when it crashes is that the box does not respond anymore, in top left corner 2 icons are turning but nothing happens again.
Sometimes after 1 or 2 minutes waiting the box return to life but also a change you have to hard reset it (power off).
The crash it self is not my biggest problem, i "hate" more that after every crash i have to completely reload/sync the whole epg data again (on which it crash mostlikely).
Don't exactly know why the developer did not choose to save the epg data in a file or database and is accessed (when needed) from this file/database instead of running in the memory.

I believe myself it is indeed a memory (leak) problem, just to little memory for the apps on the box. All apps and OS get bigger, more advanced (what i like) but the hit the hardware limit of the box.
Therefore i was thinking of selling the box and get someting new with "more power" to prevent this from happening again.

I might be late already but I will give my suggestions anyways:

- I owned happily a VuDuo for 2 years, with OpenPLi and OpenVix and it was running OK till, I installed the 2.4 build of VIX (i think it was not yet called OpenVIX - hence the collaboration with OpenPli team). It was some months ago when the box started crashing quite often, with the same symptoms you described.
The cure of my problem was just the EPG location - I Changed it from usb stick (used for swap and epg), into internal HDD.
The root of your problem might be: if you use an usb stick for epg location, might be that the stick goes to sleep, or the stick is damaged. Or, you might have changed the location of epg into internal flash. If the latest is the case for you, I believe with just changing the epg.dat location to internal HDD will solve once and for all your crasshes.
And keep in mind that having dmore then 2 providers of epg data (especially sky uk or IT which have hundreds of channels) does mean that 'a lot' of data needs to be 'recalled' into memory of the box, which slows the box - till it crashes it.

- regarding the 'better box' than VuDuo, I would strongly suggest GigaBlue Quad - it is a monster compared to VuDuo in terms of speed of processor, internal flash etc. In terms of looks, it is much smaller than VuDuo, has a nice small LCD screen (showing picons and other info) and very nice build quality. The price (on online German retailer) is 399 euros.

I but my Quad a few days ago with two S2 tuners and 1 DVB-T terrestial tuner. Man, how great it feels when compared to VuDuo!

cheers

Edited by mauri, 8 November 2012 - 19:19.

[atilaks]

good luck with gigablue quad... it is still running kernel 2.6

[Rob van der Does]

good luck with gigablue quad... it is still running kernel 2.6

Yeah...... but not for long........