Posted 9 August 2013 - 11:19
Hi,
I noticed that nowadays the subtitles in the subtitle selection screen are ordered differently than they used to be. A year ago or so DVB subtitles were always on top. Now there is always a txt subtitle on top but there can also be another txt subtitle below the dvb subtitle like just now on ITV HD where I have the order
Since I usually take the DVB subtitles I'd like to have them back on top. Is there a way to do that?
Posted 9 August 2013 - 11:22
I guess the order is determined by satellite provider and is not changed by the image.
But maybe someone else knows better.
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Posted 9 August 2013 - 13:23
Hm, I doubt that since the change by the provider would have coincided with my update. Also, more than one program family is affected (ITV, Channel 4 group, Channel 5 group and BBC). Of course the are all provided by freesat or BSkyB for that matter.
Posted 23 August 2013 - 13:44
I think this new behaviour has been introduced by the patch "iSubtitleOutput: move python stuff into swig wrappers". Anyway, I reversed the list in AudioSelection.py. Now I have dvb subtitles first again in 99% of the cases.
Posted 23 August 2013 - 14:03
Which I would find extremely annoying, text subtitles render a lot better, and rendering can be tuned (a lot of people don't like the different colours used in the UK for example).
DVB subtitles are images, and therefore usually crap to watch.
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Posted 23 August 2013 - 14:35
Okay, let's agree to disagree. I prefer dvb subtitles because they are coloured. So you know who's taking. :-) OTOH I noticed that the txt subtitles are sometimes notspacedcorrectlysoitisdifficulttoreadthem. Especially on 5 and co.
Posted 23 August 2013 - 14:36
Teletekst subtitles can also be colored... that is configurable... In adition you also have the ability to autmatically select subtitles.
Edited by littlesat, 23 August 2013 - 14:45.
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Posted 23 August 2013 - 15:21
Teletekst subtitles can also be colored... that is configurable... In adition you also have the ability to autmatically select subtitles.
Oh thanks, I didn't know that there can be more than one color simultaneously. But they are sometime hard to read because of missing background. DVB subtitle background transparity can be adjusted.
What does automatic selection mean? if I switch them on on a certain channel/recording they stay switched on until I switch them off. Regardless of changing the channel/stopping the playback.
Posted 23 August 2013 - 16:10
All-white or coloured is indeed a setting. I don't remember what the default is. And these days text subtitles are rendered with a black outline to improve visibility, without the need for an all-black background.
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Posted 23 August 2013 - 19:15
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Posted 24 August 2013 - 10:31
Okay, I am convinced. txt subtitles are nice. But on BBC HD dvb subtitles might still look better.
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