Posted 8 April 2014 - 14:59
There is no (technical) need to force a restart, for nothing. Only poor design and/or implementation can cause this requirement. The only thing that needs to be loaded at boottime is the kernel (otherwise you don't have a running OS). All other things can be loaded afterwards, and unloaded, replaced, and loaded again.
You can install or upgrade packages like MySQL or Apache without requiring a restart (not of the OS, and not of the application), so any other tool can do the same...
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Posted 8 April 2014 - 15:02
No problem, they'll just install themselves and be available. No need to reboot.And what about plugins that install system files? Or bring dependencies that do?
Posted 8 April 2014 - 15:05
Being there does not mean that I agree. The alternative was hordes of angry "I cannot install my plugins" reactions.And even more: why would this have been committed if not required?
Posted 8 April 2014 - 15:08
Posted 8 April 2014 - 15:18
I thought this was what we're talking about?.... a plugin must explicitly set needsRestart to "True".
Posted 8 April 2014 - 16:34
No we are talking about why my recordings are not working! 
I think it's a bug.
But this thing with the plugins is cool. Why do a restart if no restart is needed? But if a restart is needed, do it. 
But i think a lot of plugins have to be rewritten.
Posted 8 April 2014 - 17:40
Posted 8 April 2014 - 18:57
Posted 9 April 2014 - 14:10
I'm not sure if it's a valid comparison, but I must agree: on installing some two hundred apps on my Android phone, not one restart was required. Neither on de-installing them (as I did with most).
No problem, they'll just install themselves and be available. No need to reboot.And what about plugins that install system files? Or bring dependencies that do?
Posted 1 May 2014 - 09:27
Back to the "recording-problem":
1. Why is "Record" and "Recording paths" separately listed in setup-menu? If you ask me, "Recording paths" should be in a sub menu of Record.
2. "Recording paths" is not working. Can please someone test if he could change anything? I can only view, but not change the path.
Posted 1 May 2014 - 09:36
Hm, can not edit my previous posting, so sorry for double post.
3. In "Mounts Editor" the remote control is not working correct. I can only write numbers, but no letters. If you try to edit "Mount options" for example.
Posted 1 May 2014 - 09:38
Back to the "recording-problem":
1. Why is "Record" and "Recording paths" separately listed in setup-menu? If you ask me, "Recording paths" should be in a sub menu of Record.
2. "Recording paths" is not working. Can please someone test if he could change anything? I can only view, but not change the path.
ad 2) works. You can change it, when you have some path created. Press OK on some item in this menu and select some dir. Then you will to have added one
ad 1) It is better imho, because Recording paths is not Recordings/Playback behaviour.
ad 3) "Mount editor" is too broad, can you be more precise ? Where and what is not possible ?
Edited by ims, 1 May 2014 - 09:42.
Posted 1 May 2014 - 09:59
Wow, thx for ultra fast response!
1) Ok, but then it should stick together in setup menu to get a better overview and you find it better.
2) Hm, maybe im to stupid... I go to Setup -> Recording paths -> Default movie location. It opens a new dialog "Select location". But i can not do anything there?! Navigation does not work, only "ok" to leave the menu, "red", "green" or "blue" key.
3) Menu -> Setup -> System -> Network -> MountManager -> Mountpoints management -> ok to edit a mount point. Go to "Mount options" and try to edit it (rw,nolock,tcp...). I can only write numbers from 0-9 and no letters (like a old mobile phone).
Posted 1 May 2014 - 10:10
ad 2) Bouq+/Bouq- there swapping between "tree" and between bookmarks.
ad 3) tried, works well ( and with TEXT button can be switched into keyboard too)
May be, you are using some old version image ? What box, what image ?
Edited by ims, 1 May 2014 - 10:15.
Posted 1 May 2014 - 10:47
Box is a VU+ Ultimo with latest openpli (updated today).
2) OMG, ok, this way it works! It was an "Error 2" -> Problem is sitting 2m in front of television 
3) Keyboard is working with text button, but now (after a reboot) input with remotecontrol (not keyboard) is not working anymore. And after i press a button on the remote (normal, "non keyboard mode"), i can not use keyboard. Then i have to leave the menu and join again -> keyboard is working until i make again a input with "non keyboard mode".
4) Why is it not possible to change the EPG-Path by GUI? Can you not put it in Setup -> System -> EPG Settings?
Posted 1 May 2014 - 10:54
ad 3) i will see on it on vuultimo later
ad 4) Why it is needed ?
Posted 1 May 2014 - 10:59
3) THX, maybe it's an ultimo or VU problem
4) It's default on HDD and i like to but it on usb or internal flash (367MB free, so no problem). Why is record path or other settings needed? 
Recording with a connected NFS-Share is now working. Strange. I keep an eye on it.
Posted 1 May 2014 - 11:06
ad 3) may be, there was some problems with drivers for RC ...
ad 4) it is default on first recording device, imho. There is not needed change it. It is used on start Eě and on restart E2 only.
Different records paths - as is there wroted ...f.eg. when you want timeshift temp file in different dir, Instant recordinding to different path etc...
Posted 1 May 2014 - 11:20
The EPG path has a setting in the E2 config, but indeed there is no GUI item for it so you can change it. I have always found that odd as well.
It would be handy, since there are cases (for example /media/hdd is a NAS mount) that you don't want the epg.dat to be saved on /media/hdd.
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Posted 1 May 2014 - 11:35
ok, then there is possible use HDDSleep plugin ( do not activate sleep via this plugin) and there is possible set EPG path to different disks.
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