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[rtzhjgg0]

Two Entropic boxes 'Octagon SF2028 HD Optima 3D' and the turkish 'Next Machina 3D' are the first satellite receivers with a MultiPiP feature.

MultiPiP can display live and simultaneously till 16 live channel windows 

 

I made a video to show how MultiPiP concretely looks like

 

 

PS.

SF2028 have a closed source OS, but Octagon have currently in development high-end Linux models with triple and quad tuner support.

[Erik Slagter]

Very nice!

 

Do you know wat SoC is inside?

[rtzhjgg0]

SoC? hm, how can find it out?

 

with Box / Info, i get this:

 

Model name: OCTAGON SF2028 HD Twin- Optima 3D

S/W version: V4.833(P1.2.4)

H/W version: 10.200.111(16.32)

DB version: D2.3.1.2

LoaderVersion: B2.10 / 3.7

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[WTE]

Two Entropic boxes 'Octagon SF2028 HD Optima 3D' and the turkish 'Next Machina 3D' are the first satellite receivers with a MultiPiP feature.

MultiPiP can display live and simultaneously till 16 live channel windows 

 

I made a video to show how MultiPiP concretely looks like

 

 

PS.

SF2028 have a closed source OS, but Octagon have currently in development high-end Linux models with triple and quad tuner support.

 

This is mosiac and not PiP. I have seen it on the first boxes over 5 years ago.

There are many more tuners which have this function.

 

The chipset STB225/236 and PNX84xx has this mosiac function.

Edited by WTE, 18 January 2014 - 16:40.

[Erik Slagter]

This is mosiac and not PiP. I have seen it on the first boxes over 5 years ago.
There are many more tuners which have this function.

Agreed, but I've never seen it work so smoothly, it looks like PiP, especially the 4-HD-PiP, the other PiP I didn't look that close at.

 

 The chipset STB225/236 and PNX84xx has this mosiac function.

But what's inside this STB? Is it bcm? Google doesn't seem to know.

[rtzhjgg0]

 

 

This is mosiac and not PiP...

Mosaic? This are all LIVE windows and you can change and swap the channel of any window without leaving MultiPiP.

[Rob van der Does]

See

[theparasol]

Hope your provider isnt sid locked like the m7 canaldigital channels.

Lets do a multipip to see whats on the telly.... oops, now my card is locked again!

[Rob van der Does]

I think only the Dutch and Belgians are hampered by that.

[WanWizard]

I think that is short term, and will disappear once CWOE is fully introduced. After which sharing is no longer a threat (until it gets hacked again).

[theparasol]

Nope... people in France too... And for what I know scandinavia and Greek too.

[ColinB]

Still, would have been very nice during the UK (London) Olympics(FTA)

[littlesat]

I thought during the olympics the BBC provided a Multi PiP channel.... so no tuner needs to emulate that...

[WTE]

This is mosiac and not PiP. I have seen it on the first boxes over 5 years ago.
There are many more tuners which have this function.

Agreed, but I've never seen it work so smoothly, it looks like PiP, especially the 4-HD-PiP, the other PiP I didn't look that close at.

 

>>> The chipset STB225/236 and PNX84xx has this mosiac function.

But what's inside this STB? Is it bcm? Google doesn't seem to know.

 

 

It's former NXP, Conexant and now it's entropic.

It's a basic function inside the reference code for over 5 years if I am not mistaken, and yes it works from start as smooth as you see in the youtube movie.

Edited by WTE, 18 January 2014 - 20:06.

[Erik Slagter]

That explains a lot, I assumed a broadcom SoC. I am very interested if broadcom will follow.

 

Also I am very interested about how this is implemented. The four-times-PiP could be simply four decoders (or virtual decoders), but how about the 16-times-PiP can't be anything but a very fast zapping, or one should have four tuners fitted and then per tuner watch four channels on exactly on one transponder, which would limit the usefullness consideratebly.

[ColinB]

I thought during the olympics the BBC provided a Multi PiP channel.... so no tuner needs to emulate that...

 

Sort of.  Terrestrial had a limited pip vis red BBC1,2,3 & 4, also Red Button. HD I think was limited to 3 channels

 

However Satellite had a lot more channels available. 8 HD/SD as well as the red-Button sub channels

[ColinB]

I thought during the olympics the BBC provided a Multi PiP channel.... so no tuner needs to emulate that...

 

Sort of.  Terrestrial had a limited pip vis red BBC1,2,3 & 4, also Red Button. HD I think was limited to 3 channels

 

However Satellite had a lot more channels available. 8 HD/SD as well as the red-Button sub channels

 

 

Edit: This is what I was referring to. Although at the time I only had a single tuner-sat.

 

http://www.joinfrees...ympic-channels/

[gorski]

Who needs that without insect multiple eyes? Plus, it's sooo small when you get to more than 2...

[Erik Slagter]

I'd assume especially you have a 60" screen

[MiLo]

Could be made into a "channel selection". Rather than a list of descriptions, just page through them 16 at a time...

There was a plugin that did something similar by zapping over multiple channels, but it was horrendously slow.

And of course, we have those nice providers who assume that 4 streams is the maximum anyone could possibly use and lock the card for 10 minutes when you happen to use a stream more than that, so in practise, this is only ever going to work for FTA channels.