My 5 years old MultiPiP for Mac has all Octagon features ...but multiple HD-channels was too heavy for my iMac and killed it... 
So I abandoned that very nice system. Especially QuadSplit was a joy 
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Re: First satellite receivers with MultiPiP :-) #21
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Posted 19 January 2014 - 13:23
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Re: First satellite receivers with MultiPiP :-) #22
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Posted 19 January 2014 - 13:30
Naaaah, Erik, I ma on a modest 42inch plasma... 
Providers might have to rethink about locking facility, then... in time... under pressure from us... 
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Re: First satellite receivers with MultiPiP :-) #23
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Posted 19 January 2014 - 23:42
CWOE
Please enlighten me, what this means ?
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Re: First satellite receivers with MultiPiP :-) #24
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Posted 20 January 2014 - 01:18
Code Word over Encryption. For which you need a CI so you can decode the codeword. No more softcams, no more sharing.
Several providers already started with it, either on their premium channels (like sports) or their HD channels.
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Re: First satellite receivers with MultiPiP :-) #25
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Posted 20 January 2014 - 01:32
Code Word over Encryption. For which you need a CI so you can decode the codeword. No more softcams, no more sharing.
Several providers already started with it, either on their premium channels (like sports) or their HD channels.
@WanWizard Thank you for the explanation.
I did a brief Google search and most of the responses were to do with some form of "Bacteria" , derived from plant matter. Apparently its a highly technical subject.
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Re: First satellite receivers with MultiPiP :-) #26
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Posted 20 January 2014 - 11:49
I believe the concept is known with various names, not only cwoe. Maybe if you search for "encrypted codeword" you'll have more success.
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Re: First satellite receivers with MultiPiP :-) #27
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Posted 20 January 2014 - 17:37
Bottom line is that the codeword that comes out of the card is still encrypted, and requires either logic in a CI, or in the box itself (in the case of hard pairing of card and box) to be decrypted.
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Re: First satellite receivers with MultiPiP :-) #28
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Posted 20 January 2014 - 17:45
It's a matter of reading out the BK/RSA, isn't it? Then, a card can go into one of our boxes... Like in Nagra 3 or Conax CAS7 cases... Allegedly, some know how to do it....
Otherwise, the providers lock you to their equipment and their equipment alone - and the prices go up, which is not something that EU encourages...
The customer was supposed to have choices, which system ensures competition and versatility working for the consumer...
But EU Commission is not exactly perfect in this sense, is it... Just see Mierdoch monopolies, for instance...
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Re: First satellite receivers with MultiPiP :-) #29
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Posted 20 January 2014 - 22:22
CWOE - or how you call it does not really matter. It is here to stay. The rest is wishful thinking.
People will buy FTA receivers just for that. Why else ? Or you buy the cam as you already done in the past..and use it.
You cannot go around locked flash sectors...unless there is a backdoor.
Most of the people are not considering this route. And I tend to agree with them. Not worth it.
Edited by pop_eye, 20 January 2014 - 22:25.
Re: First satellite receivers with MultiPiP :-) #30
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Posted 20 January 2014 - 22:55
...unless there is a backdoor.
There is always a backdoor, just ask the NSA
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Re: First satellite receivers with MultiPiP :-) #31
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Posted 20 January 2014 - 23:00
And if there wasn't - they "blasted" their way into a card...
<span style='font-family: comic sans ms,cursive'>"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-incurred immaturity. Immaturity is the inability to use one's own understanding without the guidance of another. This immaturity is self-incurred if its cause is not lack of understanding, but lack of resolution and courage to use it without the guidance of another. The motto of enlightenment is therefore: Sapere aude! Have courage to use your own understanding!</span><br /> <br /><span style='font-family: comic sans ms,cursive'>Laziness and cowardice are the reasons why such a large proportion of men, even when nature has long emancipated them from alien guidance..." I. Kant, "Political writings" (1784)</span><br /> <br /><span style='font-family: comic sans ms,cursive'><a class='bbc_url' href='<a class='bbc_url' href='http://eserver.org/p...lightenment.txt'>http://eserver.org/p...ent.txt</a>'><a class='bbc_url' href='http://www.english.upenn.edu/~mgamer/Etexts/kant.html</a>'>http://www.english.upenn.edu/~mgamer/Etexts/kant.html</a></a> - the jolly text on Enlightenment, at the basis of Modernity...</span>
Re: First satellite receivers with MultiPiP :-) #32
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Posted 21 January 2014 - 16:20
It isn't a backdoor if it's put there intentionally for use by a select group.
It's more of a service entrance really.
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Re: First satellite receivers with MultiPiP :-) #33
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Hi guys, my first post here in forum!
DVB-T on Octagon SF 2028, can show 9 SD channels (from same frequency) in MultiPIP ?
Thank you
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