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#1 mdshd

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 04:12

I want to know, what is VLAN for, because I do not see a possibility to watch IPTV (rtp/udp) streams on ET10000.

 

Somebody knows?


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Re: ET10000: Does anybody know what is VLAN for? #2 robertut

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 07:57

http://wiki.openwrt....answitch.config

http://www.dslreport...er-wihtout-vLan



Re: ET10000: Does anybody know what is VLAN for? #3 WanWizard

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 08:26

It is for future IPTV support.

 

Or in case you are on a cable provider that provides IPTV with MAC authentication only on a VLAN, it's for current IPTV support.


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Re: ET10000: Does anybody know what is VLAN for? #4 Erik Slagter

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 08:30

I don't know if it's easy to set from within enigma (otherwise you'd have to do some scripting), but I'd advise to use this connection for your lan instead of the "lan" nic. The "vlan" nic is 1 Gbps, while the "lan" nic is only 100 Mbps.


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Re: ET10000: Does anybody know what is VLAN for? #5 WanWizard

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 08:34

Same as on any other box. There is nothing VLAN about it, other than the name printed on the box. Both interfaces show in Enigma, and configuration is the same.

 

If you don't have a use for that port, and you have gigabit switching, then yes, this is sound advice.


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Re: ET10000: Does anybody know what is VLAN for? #6 mdshd

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 11:15

I have already IPTV provider. A1TV Austria and I used it with dvbviewer 7-8 years ago (native support). 2 years ago I used it with CVS images (rtp/udp streams support with reference 1:0:1 and without dvbproxy) until 10 days ago, i bought et10000 and switched to OpenPLi.

 

With OpenPLi i can not use it as stream in this way. I tried refrence with 4097:0:1...rtp, and 1:0:1....rtp. Nothing work. With dvbproxy i don't want to use it, because it is not IPTV anymore and there is no teletext. It's fake then. So I thought there is a way to scan my IPTV network with et10000 and use it natively, but I can not find Intformation abput VLAN on et10000, and if it already works. 


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Re: ET10000: Does anybody know what is VLAN for? #7 Taykun345

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 11:22

But can you use two NICs at the same time? One for IPTV (video) other for internet/network?


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Re: ET10000: Does anybody know what is VLAN for? #8 WanWizard

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 11:26

There should be support for rtp in gstreamer (which is used under water to process the streams), so I think it's a question of how to code the URL in the reference. You could try on the commandline with something like

gst-launch -v playbin2 uri=rtp://192.168.0.100:4000

to see if it plays at all. The big question is whether or not the codec used by your provider is supported by your box (it can't do decoding in software, like a PC can). VLC for example could tell you want the codec is.


As to the second port, ignore the name of it (as it's rubbish, it has nothing VLAN specific), it all depends on how your provider delivers the signal.
 
There are basically 3 options (assuming a standard ethernet delivery):

  • on the router on the same ports as your internet connectivity. No VLAN's used. In this case streaming should work on your LAN, and you don't need a second interface (I suggest using the VLAN interface, since it's 1 Gbps, the other one is only 100Mbps).
  • on the router on the same ports as your internet connectivity, but VLAN are used. In this case both interfaces need to be connected to your switch/router, but the VLAN interface on the box should have 802.1q VLAN tagging enabled.
  • on the router, but on a separate interface. In this case also both interfaces are used (one to your LAN, one to the VoIP ethernet port), but no additional VLAN config is needed.

As to option 2: I have seen this only with triple play providers that deliver over xDSL (VDSL mostly), and currently there is no support in Engima to define a VLAN ID and configure the interface. If this is your case, we have to look into that.


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Re: ET10000: Does anybody know what is VLAN for? #9 WanWizard

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 11:34

To be complete, some providers use a layer-2 connection (hence the VLAN tag), so they can see the MAC address of the attached box. And use something like 802.1x for MAC authentication to make sure it's a provider supplied box. If you are in this situation, you need to spoof the MAC address of the original box your provider supplied.

 

I have seen others that require a PPP tunnel, which is used for authentication purposes (where you need to enter a username/password in the provider box), which will make things a lot more complicated.


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Re: ET10000: Does anybody know what is VLAN for? #10 mdshd

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 12:01

I do not have this problem with my provider. With Merlin3 image or original dmm with gp3 addon on dm7020 hd for example rtp and udp streams played very well, without udproxy.

 

With OpenPLi on dm7020hd it did not work and also not with et10000. I also installed gstreamer rtp and udp. but do not play the streams.

 

Example:

 

#SERVICE 1:0:19:283E:3FB:1:C00000:0:0:0:rtp%3a//@239.2.24.6%3a8208:arte HD

#DESCRIPTION arte HD
 
I recieve also DSL over my provider and a lot of channels are FreeTV in my network, so it is legal to watch it on PC or enigma box, or how ever, if you have the streams. Yes, and i can not watch 2 channels at the same time. enigma receiver or original receiver.
 
This kind of stream works in OpenPLi very well but with http. If there would be possible to make OpenPli play also rtp and udp? It is a ts stream, it also contains teletext, many audio languages if available or subtitle. What this rtp stream do not contain is EPG from provider.

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Re: ET10000: Does anybody know what is VLAN for? #11 WanWizard

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 12:02

What is the @ doing in the URL? Should it not be

 

#SERVICE 1:0:19:283E:3FB:1:C00000:0:0:0:rtp%3a//239.2.24.6%3a8208:arte HD


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Re: ET10000: Does anybody know what is VLAN for? #12 WanWizard

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 12:04

239.2.24.6 is a multicast address, don't you need multicast support for that?


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Re: ET10000: Does anybody know what is VLAN for? #13 mdshd

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 12:07

yes is multicast, so far i know. where should be multicast support? in openpli?

 

i don't know what @ really do, but it should be in the adress. I also tried with @ and without on OpenPLi, but id want work. On CVS images it works only with @239...


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Re: ET10000: Does anybody know what is VLAN for? #14 WanWizard

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 12:09

in OpenPLi's gstreamer setup?

 

I know how it should work, and I know the network side of things very well, but the Enigma specifics are above my pay-grade I'm afraid, so I have to pass this on to a core dev...


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Re: ET10000: Does anybody know what is VLAN for? #15 mdshd

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 12:12

But if you make it with gstreamer work, would it be possible to have the 1:0:1 reference?


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Re: ET10000: Does anybody know what is VLAN for? #16 athoik

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 12:36

See: http://gstreamer-dev...-td4411540.html

 

we also had problems with our live-streams when working with gstreamer stack from git master (0.10.36 not tested yet).

They disappeared after reverting commit 09f0860a1037b73bf314dd6d80ebbfa096ff93bf on gst-plugins-bad (gstmpegtsdemux.c).

 

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Re: ET10000: Does anybody know what is VLAN for? #17 athoik

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 15:04

Try this ipk (without commit 09f0860a1037b73bf314dd6d80ebbfa096ff93bf) and report if problem is solved.

 

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Re: ET10000: Does anybody know what is VLAN for? #18 mdshd

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Posted 19 June 2014 - 04:35

just installed, tried, wont work. I don't know if it does matter, but the streams are h.264.


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Re: ET10000: Does anybody know what is VLAN for? #19 athoik

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Posted 19 June 2014 - 05:46

You need to find the responsible GStreamer sink..

Maybe get GStreamer modules from a working image and see if it works...

The original topic is not related with GStreamer issue so maybe a new topic is better.

Ps. You can enable GStreamer debug when using enigma and see what sink involved. (GST_DEBUG... enigma2)
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Re: ET10000: Does anybody know what is VLAN for? #20 mdshd

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Posted 19 June 2014 - 12:17

Thank you very much, i'll see, what I can do with my knowledge. 

 

Only working Images are dmm based Images such Merlin Image, Gp3, newnigma, tsimage...

 

Now I can not install those images because I only have et10000 and I'm very happy with this receiver and happy I have chosen the right one.

 

One of reasons I bought this receiver also was the VLAN, so I thought to have the chance to have IPTV natively.

But I think it will be in future.

 

You really think its up to gstreamer? What version or modification could have dmm to have working the udp and rtp streams...


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