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[highkick05]

ahh had it on mt screen couple days ago now can't find it googled 100+ times

 

what is own.channels.xml channel ref format if some1 knows and can paste it..

having trouble identifying where to put stuff changed a transponders complete network ID .. which stopped it being confused with others in the EPG

but now I need some extra params I think

[doglover]

<channel id="EPGref from the XMLTV file">Service ref</channel> <!-- Channel Name - This is just a comment -->

 

EPGref from the XMLTV file:

 

  <channel id="Boomerang.hu">
    <display-name lang="cs">Boomerang</display-name>
    <url>http://www.m.tv.sms.cz</url>
  </channel>

 

Service ref:

 

1:0:1:80ED:21:3E8:FFFF0000:0:0:0:

 

Taken from the channel on the box.  See our faq's on how to obtain it.

 

Willy

Edited by doglover, 2 September 2014 - 07:48.

[highkick05]

doglover. 

1:0:1

wat is this ?

 

I have seen around the interwebs

syntax:of:NID:TID:SID:

 

kinda wat I was looking for..the full specifics format of this line:

 

1:0:1:80ED:21:3E8:FFFF0000:0:0:0:

not an exact copy from the file

 

had it the other day, but just driving myself nuts searching all over google

[highkick05]

another problem I'm driving myself nuts trying to figure out is why the REFERENCES do not work with just the NAMESPACE ID (xmltvimport)

 

I know that the naming convention natively is not great in enigma2 being that it names the TID AND SID in most circumstances as 0001 and 0001.

so that leaves you with most CHANNELS 0001:0001:0001. Even on Lyngsat most ONID AND TID have some sort of unique number !

WHY would the EPG importer !  look at 0001:0001:0001 BEFORE THE NAMESPACE ID

HERE:-

 

<channel id="">1:0:1:0002:0001:0001:067d8f28:0:0:0:</channel> <!-- TFC ASPAC -->

<channel id="">1:0:1:0002:0001:0001:03ee9034:0:0:0:</channel> <!-- NULL -->

<channel id="">1:0:1:0002:0001:0001:05658f6c:0:0:0:</channel> <!-- CinemaWorld -->

 

typical format of me refs HOWEVER it chooses to look at the 0002:0001:0001 BEFORE the namespace ID and stuffs up

all my channels is this normal behaviour ? why not just look at the :067d8f28: then match the EPG data to that !?

 

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[doglover]

1:0:  I have not seen anything else

 

1/16/19/25 : is the type of service MPEG2/MPEG4/HD/radio  (does not really matter)

 

Then you have TID:NID:SID  (or a different other - I have to look this up)  These really identifies the channel

 

067d8f28:  is the namespace or really the identifier for the satellite - or cable

 

The end: 0:0:0:  is always the same - but needs to there.  I have not seen anything else.

 

Willy

Edited by doglover, 2 September 2014 - 08:23.

[highkick05]

Willy do you think maybe because I am using the satellites.xml from satellites-xml.org

not satellites-xml.eu ... this is my problems ?

 

it calls the satellite names different .. adds a .1 to the degrees

ie, asiasat 5 satellites.xml from .org would be 100.6 E degrees satellites.xml from .eu is just 100.5 E

also I have KU and C band seperated not on same sat

 

shrug

. yeah TID:SID:NID  ... wat the fa ?

 

ok so xmltvimport is just reading 0001:0001:0001 and then adding the EPG data to th@ ?????

WTF

Edited by highkick05, 2 September 2014 - 11:09.

[doglover]

Willy do you think maybe because I am using the satellites.xml from satellites-xml.org
not satellites-xml.eu ... this is my problems ?
 

Could very well be the problem.

A similar situation exist on Thor (1W) where both sources have a different service ref.

 

Look at http://en.kingofsat.net/pos-13E.php

where you will find the TID.NID and SID

 

TID: is the transponder ID

NID: is the Network ID

SID: is the stations ID

 

Willy

[highkick05]

ALso seems like there are custom bouquet lists around the net made that people use so what do they do when they need to edit either

A) TID - ID of the transponder (seems like its always 1 or 0001) WHY ?? why not 43 or 10, 11 , 12, 13

SID - service ID is really not changeable considering it identifies the channel on the TP (multiple channels on TP) although I notice you can change as long as it doesn't already exist (ie. second channel on transponder, 0002 etc)

C) NID - network ID (always 1 or 0001 WHY?) seems changeable but I've tried this and can't seem to get it to point to the EPG data after I edit the channel correctly pointing to it in own.channels.xml

 

D) is there anything else that gets recognised by xmltvimport apart from just 0001:0001:0001:namespace:         (namespace being what it seems NOT to recognise half the time and goes for the first existing EPG data on first TID SID)

 

what typically is xmltv importer looking for ??? a complete list or package channels on ONE SINGLE TRANSPONDER? 0001 0002 0003 0004 perfect order ?

[highkick05]

ok no dramas ..

could be my prob lol back to the drawing board 

[highkick05]

bahhhh nope just looked at the NID TID's on most of these satellites in the EAST here AHHH HAHAHAHA?

 

doglover/Willy. can you take a second check for me . is there no real NID or TID on most of these TP's. check this sat

http://www.lyngsat.com/Palapa-D.html

I checked the link you posted above Hotbird ... every TP has a clearly marked TID/NID

 

is this trouble trying to put EPG on these ? say for Indo ppl who want several if not all these channels.

how could xmltvimport recognise if most TIDSID NID the same .. still possible ??

[doglover]

They all have a SID which is different.

Can not directly identify the NID and TID.  But I sure there is one.

 

We are talking here beyond my knowledge.  I am not an expert in sat transmission.

I just know a bit about enigma2 receivers and EPG.

 

Willy

[doglover]

BTW I cannot find Fashion on the Palapa sat.

 

Willy

[doglover]

The info for Fashion TV HD on 100.5 is:

 

3794 H
tp C5H FTV HD Asia DVB-S2
MPEG-4/HD 4640-3/5
8PSK
    1 - 2001 205-205
3001  C
5.5 T Kameda
Albert I
140624

 

NID: 205

TID:205

SID: 1

 

 

Info from Lyngsat.

 

 

There is a problem in your scanned settinglist.  Sort this out first pls.  Scan the sat again. 

 

Willy

Edited by doglover, 2 September 2014 - 14:07.

[littlesat]

1:0....
Markers, bouquets lists etc... Could have a different value here...

[highkick05]

interesting u dig up that TID NID on fashion tv HD asiasat 5

 

<channel id="">1:0:1:0001:0001:0001:03ee0ed2:0:0:0:</channel> <!-- FashionTV HD -->

 

that's what ref I have from that scanned on asiasat 5. ? doesn't look right at all

 

BTW I cannot find Fashion on the Palapa sat.

 

Willy

 

no fashion on palapa D . not relevant for that sat

[highkick05]

1:0....
Markers, bouquets lists etc... Could have a different value here...

 

how do you mean littlesat ? what parts of the channel reference are customisable and what is not in dreamboxedit

[doglover]

1:0:1:0001:0001:0001:03ee0ed2:0:0:0:

that's what ref I have from that scanned on asiasat 5. ? doesn't look right at all

 

As I told you in the beginning, This is a very strange service ref.

This cannot be correct.

 

Scan the sat on your box again pls.  And see if there is another ref.

BTW: what for box do you have, and which image do you use?

 

Willy

[highkick05]

1:0:1:0001:0001:0001:03ee0ed2:0:0:0:

that's what ref I have from that scanned on asiasat 5. ? doesn't look right at all

 

As I told you in the beginning, This is a very strange service ref.

This cannot be correct.

 

Scan the sat on your box again pls.  And see if there is another ref.

BTW: what for box do you have, and which image do you use?

 

Willy

 

yeah mate. Actually just deleted both the old channels and rescanned - same thing. 0001:0001:0001

next I could look at starting from scratch again. use the .eu satellites.xml and just see if it comes up different.

the PROB would be though (?) the actual satscan not finding the extra TID/NID info off the sat I would guess ?

something to do with the image yeah. It's HDMU latest nightly build atm. I will swap back to OPENATV nightly and use the .eu satellites.xml

and post back my results. but yeah.. same stuff with the openatv build too I think !

look at a few other East satellites and you will notice not a lot have TID NID's most are just blank which doesn't offer much

lol I'll even switch to the spark firmware (other side amiko alien 2) and see if its got that TID NID post back results

Edited by highkick05, 2 September 2014 - 15:13.

[doglover]

amiko alien 2  :  seen a couple of anomalies with this box before.

Only I do not have experience with this box.

 

Willy

[highkick05]

did an E2 export from Spark side

interesting on the Fashion TV HD  channel the reference showed service type = 25 (HDTV)

which was little different . apart from that nothing diff