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#1 shilev

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Posted 5 April 2015 - 21:31

hi, will you make full ci+ support in next versions of image?

i read info that ci+ codes are public now and vti image already have this in 8.2 version.

 

thanks in advance



Re: full ci+ support #2 hemertje

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Posted 5 April 2015 - 22:18

the manufacturer has to build support into the drivers


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Re: full ci+ support #3 hemertje

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Posted 5 April 2015 - 22:19

PS. CI+ is not supposed to run on OpenSource boxes


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Re: full ci+ support #4 shilev

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Posted 5 April 2015 - 22:25

thanks for info

 

i tried vti 8.2 and it works there, full ci+ support, no bugs at all

 

i don't understand why it is impossible on open pli, because i really love this image and don't want to change it



Re: full ci+ support #5 WanWizard

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Posted 5 April 2015 - 22:43

Didn't read what hemertje wrote?

 

You need hacked drivers. Drivers are provided by the manufacturer, so if they don't supply those drivers, we don't have them.


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Re: full ci+ support #6 shilev

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Posted 5 April 2015 - 22:54

i didn't understand, sorry

 

so vti image developers hacked drivers and that's why ci+ standard is fully working with that image?



Re: full ci+ support #7 WanWizard

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Posted 5 April 2015 - 23:03

I doubt that, drivers are closed source, their source is under very heavy NDA.

 

So they must have come from the manufacturer, or the manufacturers developers team, since access to the original driver source is needed.

 

It also means it is not something "in the image", it is something specific for each different box. So even if one manufacturer releases these drivers for a specific box, it still won't work on any other box.

 

Since you don't mention what box this is about...


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Re: full ci+ support #8 shilev

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Posted 5 April 2015 - 23:19

vu+ solo2

 

as i said i tried VTI 8.2 and ci+ is working fine, just like on TV with ci+ cam. so it's not ordinary CI but CI+, big improvement IMHO.

I heards that BH image will make this available too.

 

here's copy paste from another forum

 

"Supported devices: Solo², Duo², Solo SE
CI+ and softcam are working in parallel mode --> use common interface assignment and setup the CI module with corresponding channels/providers/caids
Recordings from deep standby are working also for services with parental control pin (please save PIN after first PIN input)
Known issues: none"

 

i still don't understand why this is possible on VTI and not on open pli? :)



Re: full ci+ support #9 shilev

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Posted 5 April 2015 - 23:34

i also found this (4. line):

 

CHANGELOG

- Driver: 03.04.2015
- Kernel 3.13.5 (Solo², Duo², Solo SE, Zero)
- Kernel 3.9.6 (Duo, Solo, Uno, Ultimo)
- CI+ support ala VTI (Solo², Duo², Solo SE)
- xbmc pre-installed (Solo², Duo², Solo SE)
- support for GUI animations (Solo², Duo², Solo SE)
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- update AtileHD skin
- update and enhance functionality of GraphMultiEPG plugin
- update default services
- update OpenWebIF
- use lsusb with all functions (no busybox lsusb)
- Enigma2 (2014-04-02)



Re: full ci+ support #10 Rob van der Does

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Posted 6 April 2015 - 07:02

Could you post a link please? As on http://www.vuplus-su...561#post1013561 there is no mentioning of CI+.

Re: full ci+ support #11 Taykun345

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Posted 6 April 2015 - 07:22

They deleted this info from official changelog. Check their support thread, they are talking about ci+ support. It seems that ci+ modules are working now.
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Re: full ci+ support #12 Taykun345

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Posted 6 April 2015 - 07:23

As this is illegal you cannot have such support in OpenPli. Also VTi sources are closed which is another problem.
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Re: full ci+ support #13 Rob van der Does

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Posted 6 April 2015 - 07:34

As this is illegal you cannot have such support in OpenPli. Also VTi sources are closed which is another problem.

Indeed: VTi is closed source but based on Open Source; hence VTi itself is illegal (with or without CI+ support).

Re: full ci+ support #14 shilev

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Posted 6 April 2015 - 09:42

don't get me wrong, but support for different emu's is legal?



Re: full ci+ support #15 Erik Slagter

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Posted 6 April 2015 - 10:02

A softcam is not per sé illegal if you use it to obtains codewords from you legally obtained smartcard (as most of us do...) "Breaking" CI+ security is defying exactly the whole purpose of the system and can be considered, imho, quite illegal.


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Re: full ci+ support #16 WanWizard

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Posted 6 April 2015 - 10:36

If this support is present in the official drivers, I'm sure that we'll receive a BSP update one of these days. Not sure if this requires changes to Enigma too...


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Re: full ci+ support #17 malakudi

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Posted 6 April 2015 - 12:03

DMM also has this on their 7080HD. For DMM it is an external binary that "talks" to /dev/ciX and handles the signing etc of CI+ in software. I will flash VTI to my Solo2 to check if it is something similar.



Re: full ci+ support #18 tomek

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Posted 6 April 2015 - 14:51

Looks like ci+ is another unofficial feature

just like 'enigma2-plugin-extensions-pau' thing for vu+ zero and solo se :rolleyes:



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Posted 12 April 2015 - 17:45

A softcam is not per sé illegal if you use it to obtains codewords from you legally obtained smartcard (as most of us do...) "Breaking" CI+ security is defying exactly the whole purpose of the system and can be considered, imho, quite illegal.

 

A softcam not pays royalties for different CAS systems... so these kind of software who emulates a conditional access system are quite illegal too.

If an eye can be closed if these softwares are used only to read our regular subscriptions into our boxes but they break any kind of law if used for CS that should be worldwide illegal.


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Re: full ci+ support #20 SpaceRat

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Posted 27 April 2015 - 23:57

Conax is royalty free, so a Conax-only oscam would be perfectly legal ... :)


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