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#1 doglover

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 15:26

I have upgraded my Win8.1 system to Win10

 

And it is a disaster:

 

Connecting to network drives on other Window machines is problematic

If you shut a drive down (or the machine where is resides)  while Windows is connected to it, Windows become unresponsive.  Or at least Explorer is.

 

The taskbar refuses to disappear at random times, and stays that way for severl hours.  Suddenly it disppears again.

 

Several icons on the taskbar refuse to open:  Action Center, Network Connection, Search function - which is really needed in Win10.

 

The Windows Title bar of applications is completely White which in some cases make them unreadeable.

 

etc,  etc...

 

After all these problems, Idecide to go back to Win8.1.  Tried to start this procedure, but the program reported that the old Windows was not anymore on the drive.  It certainly is still there.

I can only do a backup restore now.  Which is currently running.

 

 

 

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Re: Windows 10 - Disaster #2 Rick Hunter

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 15:54

Funny, Theese problems are not seen by me yet.

I have problems with the fingerprint device.. (It is not working anymore since Windows 10) and the famous startmenu is back.. but I need to get used on this.. It is still not user friendly.


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Re: Windows 10 - Disaster #3 ims

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 16:03

I do not agree... I updated 3NTB's and 2PC's from 7 and 8.1 and no problems (64bit Home, Pro, Corporate)...

One side effect - lower temperatures on Asus G73JH with I7 :-)

 

Ok - when is remote disk shutted down, it spend cca 30s to disconnect.

 

When dont work some icons or not opening start - wrong update - corrupted files, older drivers, missing drivers etc... then you can at firs see to systems and application logs and try repair it or try run "reinstall" again (from running Win and DVD/USB) . But i am affraid, that in this case is backup of previous system irrecoverably lost .

And better is run after upgrade Win update - there is some updates released. And clear files in temps.

 

(Little problem with TeamViewer and remote screen scale, but it is on TV side)

 

Disgusting cosmetics - calculator, limited colors for desktop and menu ... and - turning-off all stool pigeons.


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Re: Windows 10 - Disaster #4 ims

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 16:08

Funny, Theese problems are not seen by me yet.

I have problems with the fingerprint device.. (It is not working anymore since Windows 10) and the famous startmenu is back.. but I need to get used on this.. It is still not user friendly.

old ntb ? When there was all ok under 8.1, then it must work. W10 are W8.2 only. On one older ntb I had problem with 8.1 and driver (was impossible install it). I must used trick - install 8.0 + driver and then upgrade to 8.1.


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Re: Windows 10 - Disaster #5 doglover

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 16:32

I also retried refresh the installation.

The utitly reported that this is not possible because my user data are not on the same drive than Windows.

 

This is corrected, I moved the Users Folder to another drive (Not the SSD). Alread a long time ago, from the moment I installed Win8.1.  The Windows Update to W10 seemed to have no problem with this.

 

It seems to be problem for the recovery.

 

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Re: Windows 10 - Disaster #6 bigfoot007

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 19:34

Just wait until you try to run a VM with networking  :o



Re: Windows 10 - Disaster #7 Rob van der Does

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 19:37

I upgraded two laptops to W10; one from W7PRO and one from W8.1HOME. Both upgrades went flawless.

 

The most annoying thing is the colour schemes; they are all made for people with very good eyes. And the highlighting of the active window (the window that has focus) has gone.

I did an extensive search, but found no good solution. I guess we'll have to wait for some tweaking programs.



Re: Windows 10 - Disaster #8 doglover

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 22:01

Well Win8.1 is back.

 

Installed Win8.1 from scratch, with reformatting the SSD.

After the basic install, I restored the win8.1 backup (could not restore it from WIN10)

I am back I was a week ago.

 

Luckily all my data is kept on the normal HDD, which was not touched.

 

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Re: Windows 10 - Disaster #9 Persian Prince

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Posted 12 August 2015 - 05:16

Totally disagree

 

I'm using win10 enterprise for more than a week and it's the best windows ever

 

I did install it as a fresh OS but I did repack it using dism with my changes


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Re: Windows 10 - Disaster #10 doglover

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Posted 12 August 2015 - 09:15

Good for you.

 

For me it is a disaster.  Too many little errors.

The biggest disaster was however reverting back to Win8.1.  Win10 simply refused it.  And I could not restore the backup of Win8.1 or reinstall Win8.1 for a DVD.

Win10 seemed to have changed something to the SSD.

 

Not until I completely removed all partitions, created new ones and formatted them I could reinstall Win8.1 and restore the Win8.1 Backup.

 

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Re: Windows 10 - Disaster #11 Pr2

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Posted 12 August 2015 - 21:14

Hi,

 

Just my two cents, I update one of my PCs and the network was no longer working at all. WiFi doesn't detect anything!

It seems that it kept some drivers during update, the work around was to look at the driver and they are taggued as migrated, so I simply delete the device with such 'migrated' driver so Windows 10 then install its own default driver and the PC is running fine, of course disabling all the peer-to-peer options (like for Windows Update) and all the spies enabled by default in Windows 10 to track us and give us better advertising.  :lol:

 

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Posted 12 August 2015 - 21:22

The p2p (for local lan only) can save lot of traffic, without setting up wsus. Imagine the gain for a small company (eg 10 pc).

If I was a provider I would certainly install some win10 machines with p2p on just to reduce traffic with some peers ;)
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Re: Windows 10 - Disaster #13 gorski

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Posted 12 August 2015 - 22:13

I, for one, am not 'moving' anywhere from Win7:

 

http://forums.mydigi...t-Understand-it

 

http://forums.mydigi...oft-and-Privacy

 

If one can be bothered...


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Re: Windows 10 - Disaster #14 Rob van der Does

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Posted 13 August 2015 - 04:01

Although I was pleasantly surprised as at first all seemed to go well, but I had a lot of systemcrashes (especially related to going to and from standby). So both my lappies are back to Win7Pro & Win8.1Home. At least the reverting went smooth and fast :)



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Posted 13 August 2015 - 08:24

The p2p (for local lan only) can save lot of traffic, without setting up wsus. Imagine the gain for a small company (eg 10 pc).

If I was a provider I would certainly install some win10 machines with p2p on just to reduce traffic with some peers ;)

 

Yes if it was only enabled on LAN but M$ enable it automatically for WAN too... so the only people that saves its bandwidth is M$ because they are using now your Internet bandwidth too to spread there patches worldwide.

 

Moreover small companies setup a WSUS server and they download only once the patches from the internet and then spread them internally.

 

Windows10 is probably a good system but as usual you will get the best out of it if your perform a clean install, with update it seems that they tries to keep too many 'old stuff'.

 

Install the media create tool and create a boot DVD/USB and install your PC from it without trying to upgrade. I am quite sure that you system will run better.

 

http://windows.micro...on-tool-install


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Re: Windows 10 - Disaster #16 adri

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I'd suggest to ALWAYS run the update, because this activates your PC for Windows 10.

After the update you can do a clean install and Windows 10 will automatically activate again.

 

Without doing the upgrade first, you'll have to buy a new Windows 10 license, because Windows 10 think tou are installing a new PC and will ask you for a license.



Re: Windows 10 - Disaster #17 ims

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Posted 13 August 2015 - 22:07

Upgrade to W10, then get KEY with some utilities and then should be possible install clear W10 with this key, or no ?

 

I will try it next week, when I will must 2 new PC's with preinstalled 64bit Win7 degrade to Win7 32bit and then update to W10 32bit. :(


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Re: Windows 10 - Disaster #18 Rob van der Does

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 04:50

Out of curiosity: why go from 64 to 32 bit?

Because you only want 3.5GB RAM supported :)



Re: Windows 10 - Disaster #19 ims

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 07:06

Memory is not important ...

 

Used 16bit DOS db program between 2 PC with shared data... 64bit Win do not support it. And running it in  working emulation is 40x slower


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Re: Windows 10 - Disaster #20 Rob van der Does

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 07:43

OK, was just curious.




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