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Re: starting timeshift stutters before pic freezes #21 2stein

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 09:58

is there an expert who could have a look at this problem?

it looks like the sequence of timeshift activation causes the problem.

1. recording is activated and switched to... generates black screen... and short continuation of playback

2. pause() is called which then pauses playback



Re: starting timeshift stutters before pic freezes #22 WanWizard

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 12:58

I can't, as I can't reproduce it. I don't have the "short continuation" bit.


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Re: starting timeshift stutters before pic freezes #23 2stein

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 14:56

anybody with duo2 willing to look at this???



Re: starting timeshift stutters before pic freezes #24 WanWizard

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 14:59

I can't do that until this weekend, don't have access to it now.


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Re: starting timeshift stutters before pic freezes #25 2stein

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 15:20

I can't do that until this weekend, don't have access to it now.

thanks a lot.



Re: starting timeshift stutters before pic freezes #26 Tony il Capo

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 19:58

when you press pause it does not immediately freeze audio/video playback but audio/stutters before playback freezes

 

I also see this behavior every time I start timeshift on my Duo2. I always thought that it was "normal" and I don't use timeshift much...


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Re: starting timeshift stutters before pic freezes #27 Erik Slagter

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 20:15

On VU+ the PiP tends to stutter for a while at first as well.


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Re: starting timeshift stutters before pic freezes #28 catastrofus

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 21:05

Sorry, today I've tested timeshift on my et10k (timeshifting to my ds211+) and I have to admit that timeshift isn't a real problem on my et10k.

I thought I've seen (long, > 1 sec) delays while timeshifting but that isn't true. Timeshift will start immediately.

 

 

Also my et10k suffers from this issue, my dm8k not. Both without hdd and both are using the same nas for timeshifting.

 

Just tried it with my et10k, and no problem whatsoever. Image stands still without problems, but this is local storage, so perhaps it's related to a network connection?

 


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Re: starting timeshift stutters before pic freezes #29 2stein

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Posted 16 November 2015 - 09:22

any feedback on duo2 timeshift?



Re: starting timeshift stutters before pic freezes #30 Erik Slagter

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Posted 16 November 2015 - 18:05

Yes it does. And now?


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Re: starting timeshift stutters before pic freezes #31 2stein

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Posted 16 November 2015 - 19:31

what is it? can i help with something?



Re: starting timeshift stutters before pic freezes #32 Tony il Capo

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Posted 16 November 2015 - 19:45

Timeshift was not working at all a couple days ago

http://forums.openpl...er/#entry513426

I didn't update my Duo2 until yesterday, updated and tested it and it seems ok now. I tested it in two or three channels and actually coudn't see any picture stuttering when timeshift is starting.


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Re: starting timeshift stutters before pic freezes #33 Erik Slagter

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Posted 16 November 2015 - 19:59

what is it? can i help with something?

Convince VU+ to fix it?


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Re: starting timeshift stutters before pic freezes #34 2stein

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Posted 16 November 2015 - 20:08

 

what is it? can i help with something?

Convince VU+ to fix it?

 

you are so funny... you really are *applause*



Re: starting timeshift stutters before pic freezes #35 Pr2

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Posted 16 November 2015 - 20:26

OpenPLi relies on drivers provided by manufacturer in this case VU+ what don't you understand in this?

You report no problem on your DM nor on your Xtrend so conclusion is problem is specific to.... VU+!

 

So the bug is in the VU+ drivers not in the OpenPLi development, drivers are closed source so only VU+ can fix them.

 

Try with other images they are plenty available for VU+ and check yourself, you should probably have the same behavior.

 

So either convince VU+ to provide proper drivers or purchase another brand that provide image team with correct driver support...


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Re: starting timeshift stutters before pic freezes #36 2stein

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Posted 16 November 2015 - 20:51

Timeshift was not working at all a couple days ago

http://forums.openpl...er/#entry513426

I didn't update my Duo2 until yesterday, updated and tested it and it seems ok now. I tested it in two or three channels and actually coudn't see any picture stuttering when timeshift is starting.

thanks tony.

 

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Re: starting timeshift stutters before pic freezes #37 betacentauri

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Posted 16 November 2015 - 23:18

The problem Tony mentioned is a totally different one. Timeshift didn't work at all. This was a "side effect" of a commit. This is fixed now.
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Re: starting timeshift stutters before pic freezes #38 Erik Slagter

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Posted 17 November 2015 - 13:13

OpenPLi relies on drivers provided by manufacturer in this case VU+ what don't you understand in this?

You report no problem on your DM nor on your Xtrend so conclusion is problem is specific to.... VU+!

 

So the bug is in the VU+ drivers not in the OpenPLi development, drivers are closed source so only VU+ can fix them.

 

Try with other images they are plenty available for VU+ and check yourself, you should probably have the same behavior.

 

So either convince VU+ to provide proper drivers or purchase another brand that provide image team with correct driver support...

 

Thanks Pr2, for once again explaining the quite obvious. I am glad somebody else took the dirty job this time.


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Re: starting timeshift stutters before pic freezes #39 2stein

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Posted 20 November 2015 - 10:21

well, looks like you fixed it even without driver change. thanks guys.



Re: starting timeshift stutters before pic freezes #40 blzr

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Posted 20 November 2015 - 13:32

well, actually the vu drivers been updated 3 days ago... ;)

https://github.com/O...f7587aa4cd331cb


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