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#1 Erik Slagter

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Posted 11 December 2016 - 14:52

Hereby we announce that from tomorrow, OpenPLi will have JESS support.

 

For those not familiar with JESS, it's a system comparable to Unicable, but with extended capabilities (more positions, more user bands).

 

Users not employing Unicable or JESS equipment will experience no difference.

 

For users that have installed Unicable equipment, unfortunately, they will need to reconfigure their tuners. That's due to tuner configuration having changed. It's more logical and simpler now.  In the process, we added a pile of preconfigured Unicable and JESS switches, so most users will not have to enter all user bands separately; they can now just choose the appropriate switch model.

 

With courtesy of Jultec, which supplied us with a few JESS switches for this purpose.


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* Ziggo digital cable TV (FTA)
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Re: Announcement: JESS support #2 Eragon

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Posted 11 December 2016 - 17:54

Unitron dCSS switches included?



Re: Announcement: JESS support #3 Frenske

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Posted 11 December 2016 - 18:04

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Re: Announcement: JESS support #4 littlesat

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Posted 11 December 2016 - 18:09

Unitron dCSS switches included?

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When it is JESS compatible.... probably one can adapt the unicable.xml for this one... ;)


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Re: Announcement: JESS support #5 Erik Slagter

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Posted 11 December 2016 - 18:11

I seem to remember having seens this brand. But if not, don't worry, you can configure it manually, just enter all user bands and it will work (assuming your switch does implement everything according to the standard).


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* Ziggo digital cable TV (FTA)
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Re: Announcement: JESS support #6 Rob van der Does

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Posted 11 December 2016 - 18:19

Why has this been called "JESS support" and not 'Unicable II support"?

After all it is Unicable II support, and JESS is just one of the brands using it.



Re: Announcement: JESS support #7 littlesat

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Posted 11 December 2016 - 18:27

"JESS" ~ "UNICABLE2" = "SCD2" = "EN50607""...

 

Probably we took JESS as this is the best readable to differentiate between UNICABLE and this "thing".  EN and SCD2.... is not user frendly and UNICABLE2 is just one thing added to UNICABLE

 

And Jultec, JESS, dis sponsor this project...


Edited by littlesat, 11 December 2016 - 18:28.

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Re: Announcement: JESS support #8 Rob van der Does

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Posted 11 December 2016 - 18:30

Well, Unicable II is the protocol, and that's what is supported.

JESS & Inverto & xxxx are just brands using the supported protocol.



Re: Announcement: JESS support #9 littlesat

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Posted 11 December 2016 - 18:31

EN... is the protocol... we choose simply the thing that makes the difference very clear...And Jultic was the manufacturer that initially did define the thing and created the EN... UNICABLE-II is even worser....

 

  • DIN EN50607: JESS (Jultec Enhanced Stacking System) Einkabelsystem, Nachfolgestandard der EN50494: 2013/2014

 

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicable


Edited by littlesat, 11 December 2016 - 18:36.

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Re: Announcement: JESS support #10 Erik Slagter

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Posted 11 December 2016 - 18:51

Actually... Jultec has developed this protocol, so they have every right to call it "JESS". Then they had it standardized by CENELEC as an EN... standard (which name nobody uses because it's far too long). Also Jultec never called it "Unicable 2", that's an invention of outsiders.

 

So, that's why we call it JESS.


* Wavefrontier T90 with 28E/23E/19E/13E/9E/4.8E/0.8W/5W via SCR switches 2 x 2 x 6 user bands
* Ziggo digital cable TV (FTA)
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Re: Announcement: JESS support #11 Rob van der Does

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Posted 11 December 2016 - 18:52

It's like saying you support a Volkswagen while you actully supply petrol.

 

And indeed: the Unicable II protocol is defined in a DIN, just as Unicable is (and petrol as well).



Re: Announcement: JESS support #12 littlesat

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Posted 11 December 2016 - 18:58

Where did you find a DIN about UNICABLE-II

 

This is the DIN with Title... and it says... JESS....

 

  • DIN EN50607: JESS (Jultec Enhanced Stacking System) Einkabelsystem, Nachfolgestandard der EN50494: 2013/2014

I can only imagine other manufacturers do not want to named it JESS as the name of a competitor is in there.... ;)


Edited by littlesat, 11 December 2016 - 19:01.

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Re: Announcement: JESS support #13 Rob van der Does

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Posted 11 December 2016 - 19:01

Actually... Jultec has developed this protocol, ...

Ah, OK, I didn't know that.

 

DIN = Deutsche Industrie Norm


Edited by Rob van der Does, 11 December 2016 - 19:02.


Re: Announcement: JESS support #14 Erik Slagter

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Posted 11 December 2016 - 19:04

I can imagine people being suspicious that we would engage into some hidden marketing/sponsoring here ;) But no, it's just that.


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* Ziggo digital cable TV (FTA)
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Re: Announcement: JESS support #15 theparasol

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Posted 11 December 2016 - 19:09

So I presume you already send back the JESS equipment they supplied you? ;)



Re: Announcement: JESS support #16 Erik Slagter

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Posted 11 December 2016 - 19:15

And how we're supposed to support / bug fixes then? 

 

Yes pun intended and pun understood ;)


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* Ziggo digital cable TV (FTA)
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Re: Announcement: JESS support #17 littlesat

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Posted 11 December 2016 - 19:17

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Re: Announcement: JESS support #18 Eragon

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Posted 11 December 2016 - 19:30

As previously correctly stated, the term "Unicable II" is not officially linked to the EN50607 European standard, but actually also Jultec recognizes that some manufacturers use different naming for this standard like "Unicable 2":
 

 

Einige Receiverhersteller verwenden die Bezeichnung "SCD2" für JESS, manchmal wird es auch als "Einkabel 2.0" oder "Unicable 2" bezeichnet.

 

http://www.jultec.de/gloss_JESS.html


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Re: Announcement: JESS support #19 Erik Slagter

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Posted 11 December 2016 - 19:45

Yes, they're not stoopid of course. Other manufacturers will not quite be willingly to use a name with the brand of the competitor in it.

 

Just like the amd64 instruction set extension, which Intel calls "intel 64". But it's really amd64.


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* Ziggo digital cable TV (FTA)
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Re: Announcement: JESS support #20 Huevos

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Posted 11 December 2016 - 22:45

Erik, what branch was this merged from? It says merged from "jess" in the commit, but OpenPLi "jess" branch hasn't been touched since April 2016.






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