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[Lozus]

Thanks for link, but I don't understand enething from what.

Edited by Lozus, 16 March 2017 - 21:49.

[Lozus]

By default I had coding UTF-8. I was created few timers with ISO08859-15 coding. With this coding autotimer doesn't work.

After what I return back UTF-8 and autototimer is working. Tried at least 20 times.

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•  Timers after ISO.zip   2.46KB   4 downloads

[Lozus]

After 4 hours and several restarts problem is back.....

But if I repeat process with ISO coding autotimer is working again.

Also, it  seems to me, while creating autotimer uncheck all exept program name.

[WanWizard]

How do you create timers yourself? In an illegal encoding? Everything on the box runs in utf-8!

[Lozus]

What does it mean illegal? I have standart Vu Solo 2.
I can chose utf or iso.
I press EPG button on remote, when yellow button, go to the program what I want to record. Press menu and create autotimer. At first I can choose program name, time, day etc. After I press ok I see nex menu where I can chose a lot of parameters and encoding also.

[WanWizard]

All data on the box is encoded in UTF-8. All other encodings are illegal.

 

So if you add a timer that is encoded in an ISO characterset, Enigma will crash when it attempts to process thr XML. That is why I want to know how you manage to add a timer in an ISO set, as all EPG data in the system is UTF-8.

[Lozus]

PLS look at video

https://drive.google...Effyw_J5s1whkkQ

[Lozus]

Also have notices what it is report about confilct between autotimers, but it can't be. It is one chanel, but on different days and times.
And in this case also appear timers error. If I remove one of that programs, error disappear.

[WanWizard]

Took some time to view the video.

 

Why do you change the encoding when you create the autotimer? If you are not 100% sure you have EPG data in an ISO encoding, you should not touch that?

[Lozus]

I just want to try different methods and I try everything what I can change. Becouse none can tell me where is problem and what I must to do.
I have backup what can restore if something goes wrong.

[WanWizard]

I have to say I'm not sure what that setting does, as I'm pretty sure all EPG data is in utf-8. Perhaps the author of the autotimer plugin can comment on this.

[Erik Slagter]

EPG is mostly not sent as UTF-8 (EIT), they have all sorts of weird encodings more or less specific to DVB. The xml EPG should in UTF-8, but the EIT is convered to UTF-8 on the go. Sources for xml EPG seem be often non-UTF-8 as well and are converted by the rytec guys.

 

So, there are various stage where conversions take place. If the source doesn't advertise the encoding of it's content properly, it will go wrong and I've seen it happen many times.

 

Encoding are a curse, it should have been UTF-8 for years and years now.

[WanWizard]

The point here is that there is a setting in the Autotimer, which explicitly defines the EPG data as being in a specific encoding. Regardless of what it actually is. So if you select anything other than UTF-8 there, you end up with illegal data in the xml, since the timers.xml parser expects the data to be in UTF-8. 

[Erik Slagter]

AFAIK the encoding in the autotimer is only used for comparison. A bit weird if you think of it, as the internal representation is indeed UTF-8. It might signify the characterset you use to enter the search string

[Lozus]

Yes, all EPG in UTF-8. If I set ISO I can save autotimer, but it doesnt work.

[Dimitrij]

Yesterday I checked the autotimer on the channel "Матч!Арена",not problem.

[Lozus]

After I tried ISO I also have no problem with all chanels.
PlS try on Первый канал, Мата хари, on 20.03.2017.
About this I have error massege about conflict (it cannot be conflict whith any other chanel or program) and therefore timers error.

[Lozus]

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Also have timers error.

[Lozus]

Also if I set (for that chanels) simple timer to record, it works like recording with reminder (zap).

Edited by Lozus, 21 March 2017 - 20:02.