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VU+ Ultimo 4k, is software (image/drivers) stable and reliable enough already?
Started by KennyL, 26 Apr 2017 11:15
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Re: VU+ Ultimo 4k, is software (image/drivers) stable and reliable enough already? #21
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Re: VU+ Ultimo 4k, is software (image/drivers) stable and reliable enough already? #22
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Posted 27 April 2017 - 15:08
Can you please list usual VU+ quirks?The usual VU+ quirks, nothing more nothing less.
A bit more sensitive to crashing once in a while than most other manufacturers, keyboards won't work (either RC or other), a few bugs in de demuxer implementation that show up every now and then and as said, no possibility to do offline decryption. On the other hand, in this field there is very little competition.
Edited by Erik Slagter, 27 April 2017 - 15:08.
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Re: VU+ Ultimo 4k, is software (image/drivers) stable and reliable enough already? #23
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A bit more sensitive to crashing once in a while than most other manufacturers
Well that is disappointing. I would not have expected it, given the price of higher end VU+ receivers.
a few bugs in de demuxer implementation that show up every now
Which results in crashing or something else?
no possibility to do offline decryption.
I googled "offline decryption" it and it seems that it has to do with recording encrypted stream and then decrypting it during playback. But I am not sure when would one want to do that as opposed to just decrypting while recording.
(Sorry for late reply, I did not notice your message initially).
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Re: VU+ Ultimo 4k, is software (image/drivers) stable and reliable enough already? #24
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I googled "offline decryption" it and it seems that it has to do with recording encrypted stream and then decrypting it during playback. But I am not sure when would one want to do that as opposed to just decrypting while recording.
Some cards have ECM limitation (for exemple you can only watch one channel and record another one so a maximum of 2 ECMs are possible at the same time on the card), so in this case you can decide to record an encrypted stream and decode it later on when the card is not used for watching or recording.
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VU+ Solo 4K: 2*DVB-S2 + 2*DVB-C/T/T2 (used in DVB-C) & Duo 4K: 2*DVB-S2X + DVB-C (FBC)
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Re: VU+ Ultimo 4k, is software (image/drivers) stable and reliable enough already? #25
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Posted 16 May 2017 - 00:05
You also need it when your provider forces you to use a CI module. So you can not decrypt and watch at the same time (unless both are from the same transponder).
Currently in use: VU+ Duo 4K (2xFBC S2), VU+ Solo 4K (1xFBC S2), uClan Usytm 4K Pro (S2+T2), Octagon SF8008 (S2+T2), Zgemma H9.2H (S2+T2)
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Re: VU+ Ultimo 4k, is software (image/drivers) stable and reliable enough already? #26
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You also need it when your provider forces you to use a CI module. So you can not decrypt and watch at the same time (unless both are from the same transponder).
This does not apply if you are using card in smartcard reader + oscam?
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Btw is there a non-VU+ receiver that has FBC dvb-c and dvb-s tuners
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Posted 16 May 2017 - 16:45
This does not apply if you are using card in smartcard reader + oscam?
If you're using a cardreader, you are not using a CI module. So if you have a choice, ALWAYS use a softcam, so you don't have this restriction. But sometimes you don't (like with the new M7 ORCA card, which is fixed embedded in the CI module).
Currently in use: VU+ Duo 4K (2xFBC S2), VU+ Solo 4K (1xFBC S2), uClan Usytm 4K Pro (S2+T2), Octagon SF8008 (S2+T2), Zgemma H9.2H (S2+T2)
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Re: VU+ Ultimo 4k, is software (image/drivers) stable and reliable enough already? #29
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Posted 16 May 2017 - 17:08
You can also have ECM restriction with a softcam reading the card into a card reader, the ECM lock is done by the card itself not by the CI module.
So even with a softcam some card only allows you to watch 2 channels whatever the TPs they are on.
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VU+ Solo 4K: 2*DVB-S2 + 2*DVB-C/T/T2 (used in DVB-C) & Duo 4K: 2*DVB-S2X + DVB-C (FBC)
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Re: VU+ Ultimo 4k, is software (image/drivers) stable and reliable enough already? #30
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Posted 16 May 2017 - 17:12
Yes, you wrote that in #24. Afaik that restriction is only implemented in the M7 SECA 3 card though.
Currently in use: VU+ Duo 4K (2xFBC S2), VU+ Solo 4K (1xFBC S2), uClan Usytm 4K Pro (S2+T2), Octagon SF8008 (S2+T2), Zgemma H9.2H (S2+T2)
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Re: VU+ Ultimo 4k, is software (image/drivers) stable and reliable enough already? #31
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Posted 16 May 2017 - 18:32
Btw is there a non-VU+ receiver that has FBC dvb-c and dvb-s tuners
Plenty. See the comparison chart. It also lists whether the receiver can do offline decoding.
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Btw is there a non-VU+ receiver that has FBC dvb-c and dvb-s tuners
Plenty. See the comparison chart. It also lists whether the receiver can do offline decoding.
This?
https://wiki.openpli.org/comparison
I only see it mentioned for VU+ models.
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There will be a Xsarius receiver with one FBC S2 tuner if I'm informed right. I expect this will be released somewhere around the ANGA in Cologne at the end of Mai. This is the Xsarius Galaxy 4K.
Mijn schotel is een T90 met 10 LNB's. Daarnaast voor de fun nog een draaibaar systeem met een Triax TD 78.
Dreamboxen heb ik niet meer echt actief. Verder heb ik ook nog een een VU+ duo2 met 500Gb harddisk + een VU+ Uno, Zero, Solo 4K, Ultimo 4K, Zero 4K, Uno 4Kse. + ook nog een Xtrend ET7x00. Daarnaast heb ik ook nog diverse andere modellen w.o. een Formuler F4, ET8500, ET7500, Mut@nt 2400HD, Xsarius Fusion HD se en verder nog wel het e.e.a. waarmee op verzoek vanalles wordt getest. Iemand moet het tenslotte doen. 
Los van de eerder genoemde modellen heb ik nog wel een rits aan testsamples als Mut@nt 2400HD, HD60, GB UE4K, GB Trio4K, Maxitec Multibox combo en Twin, Octagon sf8008, sf8008 mini en last but nog least enkele modellen van het Grieks Duitse Edision.
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Re: VU+ Ultimo 4k, is software (image/drivers) stable and reliable enough already? #34
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i heard a mutant hd52 is coming this year also and have fbc tuner too
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Re: VU+ Ultimo 4k, is software (image/drivers) stable and reliable enough already? #35
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Btw is there a non-VU+ receiver that has FBC dvb-c and dvb-s tuners
Plenty. See the comparison chart. It also lists whether the receiver can do offline decoding.
This?
https://wiki.openpli.org/comparison
I only see it mentioned for VU+ models.
Sorry overlooked the "FBC" part. Yes, only VU+ has FBC tuners.
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Re: VU+ Ultimo 4k, is software (image/drivers) stable and reliable enough already? #36
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Does this receiver have a single DVB-S2 FBC tuner or a dual DVB-S2 FBC tuner (occupying one slot, and DVB-C FBC tuner in another)? Does VU+ even make a single DVB-S2 FBC add on tuner?
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Edited by KennyL, 18 May 2017 - 12:39.
Re: VU+ Ultimo 4k, is software (image/drivers) stable and reliable enough already? #37
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Posted 18 May 2017 - 14:56
You can also have ECM restriction with a softcam reading the card into a card reader, the ECM lock is done by the card itself not by the CI module.
So even with a softcam some card only allows you to watch 2 channels whatever the TPs they are on.
I just tested it today with my friend's dual dvb-c tuner. We recorded 6 channels at once (with obvious restriction that only two transponders can be tuned into at the same time). So FBC shouldn't have a problem recording 8+ as far as I can see telll (with this particular cable provider and their card).
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Posted 18 May 2017 - 17:48
Does this receiver have a single DVB-S2 FBC tuner or a dual DVB-S2 FBC tuner (occupying one slot, and DVB-C FBC tuner in another)? Does VU+ even make a single DVB-S2 FBC add on tuner?
'Vu + Ultimo 13000 584' 4K Ultra High Definition DVB-S2 FBC / 1x DVB-C FBC Twin Tuner PVR Ready Linux Receiver, 1x 2160P Black
https://www.amazon.d...KAKR8XB7XF&th=1
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There we go again. VU+ calls it a dual FBC tuner, but it's marketing. It's ONE FBC "complex", that goes into ONE slot, it has TWO physical connections (confusingly called "A" and "B") and EIGHT tuners. The two inputs limit the number of quadrants / positions for "normal" use (LNB, or DiSEqC switch). One position per input and also one quadrant per input (L/V, H/V, L/H, H/H). If you're lucky and the transponders you want to receiver are all in one quadrant at one position, you'll be able to use all EIGHT FBC tuners simultanuously.
If you connect SCR equipment (Unicable or JESS), you can use each of the EIGHT FBC independently anyway, there are no restrictions then.
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Re: VU+ Ultimo 4k, is software (image/drivers) stable and reliable enough already? #39
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Posted 18 May 2017 - 17:48
You can also have ECM restriction with a softcam reading the card into a card reader, the ECM lock is done by the card itself not by the CI module.
So even with a softcam some card only allows you to watch 2 channels whatever the TPs they are on.
I just tested it today with my friend's dual dvb-c tuner. We recorded 6 channels at once (with obvious restriction that only two transponders can be tuned into at the same time). So FBC shouldn't have a problem recording 8+ as far as I can see telll (with this particular cable provider and their card).
I tried once recording 16 services...
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Btw is there a non-VU+ receiver that has FBC dvb-c and dvb-s tuners
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