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#1 mamamia

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 12:55

Hi, 

 

just curious if scrambled playback suport for solo4k, uno4k, ultimo4k can & will be integrated in openpli?

 

http://code.vuplus.c...6381e25300c8e2d

http://code.vuplus.c...74d6864d5054674
 - Support scrambled playback(solo4k, uno4k, ultimo4k : E2 update will follow)

 

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Re: scrambled playback support in openpli? #2 Erik Slagter

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 15:46

Depends on whether we can use the way they implemented it. We're investigating it, may take a while though.


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Re: scrambled playback support in openpli? #3 mamamia

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 09:40

Thank you Erik. German Information How the Feature was integrated in VTI.

https://www.vuplus-s...11-02/&pageNo=1

Record scrambled and descrambled while Box is Standby.

Edited by mamamia, 18 June 2017 - 09:43.


Re: scrambled playback support in openpli? #4 littlesat

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 09:50

VTI did nothing..... and when they do something it does not help... they create code behind closed doors...

 

e.g. recording scrambled recordings is what can be done in openpli already for years.... but there were only a few boxes that could encrypt them via a softcam... and as far we know not any box could do this via CI.


Edited by littlesat, 18 June 2017 - 11:17.

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Re: scrambled playback support in openpli? #5 Erik Slagter

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 10:53

The code comes from VU+ itself, VTi didn't do anything. See latest commits in the VU+ enigma2 repository.


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Re: scrambled playback support in openpli? #6 mrbeam

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 12:13

Thank you Erik. German Information How the Feature was integrated in VTI.

https://www.vuplus-s...11-02/&pageNo=1

Record scrambled and descrambled while Box is Standby.

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Can you copy/paste this info here?


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Re: scrambled playback support in openpli? #7 Rob van der Does

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 12:32

VTI did nothing..... and when they do something it does not help... they create code behind closed doors...

Correct: VTi never does anything at all, xmt embedding VU's code and forgetting to publish it :(

e.g. recording scrambled recordings is what can be done in openpli already for years.... but there were only a few boxes that could encrypt them via a softcam... and as far we know not any box could do this via CI.

Yes and no; this is about offline decrypting using a CAM, and sofar no PLi-supported box does this.

Re: scrambled playback support in openpli? #8 littlesat

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 13:12

We aupported that on e.g, xtrend boxes for years for softcams at least. But the decoding did not start during standby

Edited by littlesat, 18 June 2017 - 13:13.

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Re: scrambled playback support in openpli? #9 WanWizard

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 13:46

Has someone already looked at what that plugin exactly is doing? Is that perhaps for starting background decodes?


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Re: scrambled playback support in openpli? #10 mrvica

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 13:48

We aupported that on e.g, xtrend boxes for years for softcams at least. But the decoding did not start during standby

https://forums.openp...ntschlüsselung/



Re: scrambled playback support in openpli? #11 Rob van der Does

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 17:23

We aupported that on e.g, xtrend boxes for years for softcams at least. But the decoding did not start during standby

Yes, but not for using a CAM, as VU is doing now.

Re: scrambled playback support in openpli? #12 littlesat

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 22:07

Xtrend did decode recordings via softcam for years.... and on openpli and mut@nt did also.and indeed not with ci(+)

Edited by littlesat, 18 June 2017 - 22:09.

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Re: scrambled playback support in openpli? #13 WanWizard

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 22:59

I think both of you are saying the same, so no further comment needed?

 

We'll see how good this new code is, and if it is possible to integrate it, because as usual with VU+ there's a lot of Enigma hacking involved again.


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Re: scrambled playback support in openpli? #14 littlesat

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 23:10

And VU can hack enigma2 in their own enigma2.... as they only need to support VU.... :(....

But as far I can see regards the recording encrypted recording stuff... That is something we already had ready for years....

 

"Only" the decode encrypted recording stuff is/might be different...


Edited by littlesat, 18 June 2017 - 23:12.

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Re: scrambled playback support in openpli? #15 Rob van der Does

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 06:58

"Only" the decode encrypted recording stuff is/might be different...

Yes, because it's about:

1- offline decrypting via a CAM, and

2- automated (sceduled) offline decrypting.

Both have never been implemented before in PLi (and other images).


Edited by Rob van der Does, 19 June 2017 - 06:58.


Re: scrambled playback support in openpli? #16 littlesat

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 08:54

offline decrypting via a CAM, and

What do you mean with CAM.... CI(+) ???? Indeed that is new....

 

And here the plugin and code they made for the offline decoding when the box is in standby...

 

http://code.vuplus.c...28a9862e4d70efe

 

I also hope they did add a 'slow downer' to it... so e.g. our Dutch M7 cards no not get into "punishment" mode...


Edited by littlesat, 19 June 2017 - 09:16.

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Re: scrambled playback support in openpli? #17 WanWizard

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 09:00

For me that was obvious. ;)

 

And I've been saying all along that we don't have a mechanism for automatic offline decoding (hence my question what that plugin is doing).


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Re: scrambled playback support in openpli? #18 littlesat

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 09:19

The plugin itself is just configuring off line coding ON/OFF... why did they create a plugin for this at the first place???? Then it also includes py code within the plugin code that arranges the real encoding when the box is in standby....


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Re: scrambled playback support in openpli? #19 WanWizard

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 10:04

That was my point.

 

If we know what exactly the plugin does, then you can determine where that logic belongs. I agree that this functionality should be an integral part of the Enigma code, puting it in a plugin makes it far more complex.


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Re: scrambled playback support in openpli? #20 littlesat

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 10:23


puting it in a plugin makes it far more complex.

To create the enable/disable config it costs you two lines... one in UsageConfig and one in setup.xml.... now they have a complete code in plugin.py.... Then it also 'hooked' op to the RecordTimer stuff to see what should be decoded... I prefer to see recordings are somehow marked and it just "scans" throught the recordings (...e.g. name them .ts_encrypted or so - then you also have a good name for the decoded file)... what if you delete/cleanup the Timerlist...? I would also 'hook' it the same way as cable- and fastscan is done in standby...


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