There is a description for PLS in page 28 to 33 here: http://www.etsi.org/...307v010201p.pdf
Although it doesn't mention root or combo explicitly.
New tuner Si2166D- Mut@nt 51HD
Started by Neo64, 12 Jul 2017 07:43
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Re: New tuner Si2166D- Mut@nt 51HD #21
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Wavefield T90: 0.8W - 1.9E - 4.8E - 13E - 16E - 19.2E - 23.5E - 26E - 33E - 39E - 42E - 45E on EMP Centauri DiseqC 16/1
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Re: New tuner Si2166D- Mut@nt 51HD #22
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Posted 15 July 2017 - 12:45
As far as I know there is only one S2X transponder on the entire geostationary arc. 33E 12621 V 10057 25/36. Opens no problem on the Octagon.
@Erik, PLS modes are Root, Gold, and Combo. Any channel which is Root can be converted to Gold by changing PLS code, and vice versa. But not with Combo mode. Currently the only device that can open Combo mode on enigma2 is the TBS USB tuner. Also, as far as I know there is only one transponder transmitting in Combo mode on the entire arc, which is on Hispasat 30W.
Don't confuse Multistream with S2X...
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Re: New tuner Si2166D- Mut@nt 51HD #23
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Posted 15 July 2017 - 19:26
There is a description for PLS in page 28 to 33 here: http://www.etsi.org/...307v010201p.pdf
Although it doesn't mention root or combo explicitly.
Yes, that's the one I read.
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Re: New tuner Si2166D- Mut@nt 51HD #24
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Posted 15 July 2017 - 19:27
Don't confuse Multistream with S2X...
Yes like we said before.
The tuners now marketed as S2X are just S2 tuners that have optional S2 extensions implemented. So it is S2-extended, but not S2X.
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Posted 15 July 2017 - 20:24
Don't confuse Multistream with S2X...
Yes like we said before.
The tuners now marketed as S2X are just S2 tuners that have optional S2 extensions implemented. So it is S2-extended, but not S2X.
Those tuners marked as S2X won't even play multistream, let alone S2X muxes. I think currently the SF4008, HD51, and Dreambox are the only tuners that can play multistream.
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Posted 15 July 2017 - 20:59
Which "S2X" marked tuners are you talking about then? I only know of hd51 and zgemma (which feature the same Si tuner).
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Posted 15 July 2017 - 21:12
Which "S2X" marked tuners are you talking about then? I only know of hd51 and zgemma (which feature the same Si tuner).
Ok, we are at cross purposes then. Some tuners from Vu+ are marked S2X.
Re: New tuner Si2166D- Mut@nt 51HD #28
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Posted 15 July 2017 - 21:16
Those tuners marked as S2X won't even play multistream, let alone S2X muxes. I think currently the SF4008, HD51, and Dreambox are the only tuners that can play multistream.Yes like we said before.Don't confuse Multistream with S2X...
The tuners now marketed as S2X are just S2 tuners that have optional S2 extensions implemented. So it is S2-extended, but not S2X.
Multistream is also the pluggable Serit tuner from Gigablue. But only multistream (and maybe not combo 30W capable).
They have enable support for CAN_MULTISTREAM in their drivers few months now (I think once 4.8.3 kernel released).
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Re: New tuner Si2166D- Mut@nt 51HD #29
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Posted 15 July 2017 - 23:28
List of receivers current or upcoming with DVB-S2X / multistream capabllity, list stolen from OpenATV forum
Octagon SF4008 with S2X tuner
Gigablue all models (except gb7325) with the GIGA DVB-S2 NIM SP2246T (since driver update feb 2017)
Mutant HD51 with optional S2X tuner (Available 06/2017)
AX51 with optional S2X tuner (Available 06/2017)
Gigablue all models with optional S2X tuner (In stock Q4 2017)
Vu Uno 4k SE (In stock Q4 2017) Vu Uno 4k SE (In stock Q4 2017)
Upgrade Vu Ultimo 4k should be possible but not yet confirmed when the Uno 4k se is available.
Zgemma H5 Plus models
Zgemma H7S Model
Spycat 4K models (delivery date unknown)
from August 2017 also DM900 / DM7080 / DM820 with optional tuner
Re: New tuner Si2166D- Mut@nt 51HD #30
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Posted 16 July 2017 - 09:01
Which "S2X" marked tuners are you talking about then? I only know of hd51 and zgemma (which feature the same Si tuner).
Ok, we are at cross purposes then. Some tuners from Vu+ are marked S2X.
I know they do, but VU+ has already admitted they're marked incorrectly.
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Re: New tuner Si2166D- Mut@nt 51HD #31
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Posted 25 September 2017 - 17:13
We don't support Gigablue receivers (as of yet).
Currently in use: VU+ Duo 4K (2xFBC S2), VU+ Solo 4K (1xFBC S2), uClan Usytm 4K Pro (S2+T2), Octagon SF8008 (S2+T2), Zgemma H9.2H (S2+T2)
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Re: New tuner Si2166D- Mut@nt 51HD #32
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Posted 6 December 2017 - 19:31
It's already supported.
What else do you want ?
Hi,
How can you get tuner capabilities info screen like one of your screenshots shows, please?
Thanks.
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Re: New tuner Si2166D- Mut@nt 51HD #33
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Posted 6 December 2017 - 19:48
Tuner in SF4008 is SI21662, so same tuner chip.
SI2166* is demod and the HD51 has a better tuner the RT720. It's actuallly the first dvb s2x compatible tuner/frontend.
So is the DVB-S2X tuner available in HD51 the same as SF4008 or different?
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Re: New tuner Si2166D- Mut@nt 51HD #34
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Tuner in SF4008 is SI21662, so same tuner chip.
SI2166* is demod and the HD51 has a better tuner the RT720. It's actuallly the first dvb s2x compatible tuner/frontend.
So is the DVB-S2X tuner available in HD51 the same as SF4008 or different?
different
Re: New tuner Si2166D- Mut@nt 51HD #35
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Posted 13 January 2018 - 13:07
The new revision that Mutant uses is a bit faster and slightly more sensitive. It also supports both long and short DVB-S2 modes (as I read).
Re: New tuner Si2166D- Mut@nt 51HD #36
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Posted 13 January 2018 - 14:06
The new tuner revision? Is it marked different? Is it still Si2166?
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Re: New tuner Si2166D- Mut@nt 51HD #37
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Posted 13 January 2018 - 16:45
You ask this yourself above and got the answer, SF4008 has Si21662-D60, Mutant has Si2166-D60.
Re: New tuner Si2166D- Mut@nt 51HD #38
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Thanks.
I understand the difference between them is the fact that Si21662-D60 is a dual tuner while Si2166-D60 is a single tuner.
Correct?
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Re: New tuner Si2166D- Mut@nt 51HD #39
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Posted 13 January 2018 - 18:49
Si2166-D60 is actually a dual tuner (I don't own the receiver, I just ask people that do) with a single input (connected internally). The truth of the matter is that I'm very interested in it, I might give it a go! Plus there's a new rumour flying that they will be the ones that will actually bring blindscan (other than DM) to the table! Let's see!
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Posted 13 January 2018 - 19:06
Si2166-D60 is actually a dual tuner (I don't own the receiver, I just ask people that do) with a single input (connected internally). The truth of the matter is that I'm very interested in it, I might give it a go! Plus there's a new rumour flying that they will be the ones that will actually bring blindscan (other than DM) to the table! Let's see!
As much as I like the HD51 (I sold my Sf4008 - end of comment), the S2x tuner only provides (at least currently) one tuner path.
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.........DVB-S2X into 90cm dish (27.5W)
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