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[Dream1975]

Good evening,

 

Last week I switched from CCcam to OScam and need to know one last configuration setting (I think this is a rare situation, because Google didn't help).

 

Situation as follows:

Livingroom HD2400 with Ziggo Irdeto smartcard

Bedroom HD2400 with Ziggo Irdeto smartcard

Both recievers paired with eachother on OScam through the network (both serve as server and client to eachother)

 

In the bedroom I almost always watch through remote channel stream converter on the tuners in the livingroom (as the signal quality is better there because there is a very long coax going to the bedroom). Only in the rare case all tuners downstairs are used I switch to an internal tuner of the HD2400 in the bedroom. I now notice that since the switch the cards in the bedroom are not recieving ECM/EMM's updates if no internal tuner is used (and I am only watching for a couple of days through remote stream). Even though I have enabled using ECM in streams, it seems that the information in the stream is not being written to the cards (probably never has, and this functionality is more for decoding afterwards I think).

 

When using CCcam the card in the bedroom was updated (so I think CCcam pushed the ECM/EMM's also to the other CCcam which wrote them to the card). How can I configure OScam to do the same (so the livingroom OScam doesn't only update the card there, but also the one in the bedroom)?

 

 

 

[athoik]

In settings -> customize try the following setting to both receivers.


Descramble sending http streams = no
Descramble receiving http streams = yes


So streams will be received scrambled and your local card will be queried first (and most probably updated as well).

Edited by athoik, 20 July 2017 - 21:12.

[Dream1975]

Dear athoik, thank you for the tip. Unfortunately this won't work in my case. In addition of Ziggo I also have a cds card (but only in the main reciever). I have 5 Ziggo smartcards on my subsc6 (at no extra cost) but only 1 cds card. Also the main reciever is the only one with dvb-s tuners (so dvb-s channels will also be send scrambled). Therefore the preferred solution would be to have oscamserver sending the entitlements to the bedroom client which can update the card

[athoik]

You said that bedroom is talking with living room. So what ever the bedroom doesn't know how to handle, will query the living room.

Also Oscam by default has "prefer local cards", so local always wins.


Sending the entitlements sounds also like a solution, but I have no idea how this is configured.

Edited by athoik, 20 July 2017 - 21:32.

[Alex_NL]

You have to send the EMM's from one receiver to the other:

In both receivers add/change the following in oscam.conf:

[cs378x]
port                          = 13000
 
[dvbapi] 
enabled                       = 1 
au                            = 1
user                          = dvbapiau

 
In both oscam.user add a user named dvbapiau

[account]
user                          = dvbapiau
au                            = 1
group                         = 1,2
# Add all other groups if you have more readers in different groups 

In the Livingroom oscam.user add a user named 'Bedroom':

[account]
user                          = Bedroom
pwd                           = passbedroom
group                         = 2

In the Bedroom oscam.user add a user named 'Livingroom':

[account]
user                          = Livingroom
pwd                           = passlivingroom
group                         = 2 

 
In the Livingroom oscam.server add a reader named 'Bedroom':

[reader]
label                         = Bedroom
protocol                      = cs378x
device                        = <IP of bedroom receiver>,13000
user                          = Livingroom
password                      = passlivingroom
group                         = 2

 
In the Bedroom in oscam.server add a reader named 'Livingroom':

[reader]
label                         = Livingroom
protocol                      = cs378x
device                        = <IP of livingroom receiver>,13000
user                          = Bedroom
password                      = passbedroom
group                         = 2

[Dream1975]

Alex thanks! I will try it tomorrow

[Dream1975]

I have tried your instructions (although most of it was already configured through the standard PLi config). Rebooted both boxes and left the bedroom box on streaming a channel (watching through the tuner of the livingroom box). 

 

I see the livingroom box handle a lot of ECM/EMM's, but unfortunately the bedroom box stays at 0 for both (unless off course I switch to the internal tuner of the bedroom box).

 

So it seems the ECM/EMM's are still not pushed from the livingroom OScam server to the bedroom OScam client through the network.

[Dream1975]

I have done some more testing. Keeping the configuration intact and also the bedroom box streamimg on the livingroom box, but just pull the card from the livingroom box (so OScam in the livingroom, that is sending out the stream, is forced to use the bedroom smartcard to send the decoded stream to the bedroom) and suddenly there are ECM's being handled in the bedroom (without using the internal tuner). Strangely enough I don't see EMM's being handled.

 

It therefore seems OScam is not sending the ECM/EMM's to other readers than the one that is being used. I would like to know if it is possible to somehow tell OScam not only to only handle the entitlements to the local reader, but in addition to that send them also the the remote reader.

Edited by Dream1975, 23 July 2017 - 10:01.

[theparasol]

 

In the Livingroom oscam.user add a user named 'Bedroom':

[account]
user                          = Bedroom
pwd                           = passbedroom
group                         = 2

 

Don't forget to add au = 1 here too !!!

Otherwise this user that is connecting from bedroom isnt receiving any emm's needed for card updates....

[Alex_NL]

theparasol had already discovered my error.
Also I think the parameter group for the users have to be 'group = 1,2' as well?
When testing, look in both Live log's with debug option 64, you'll see more about sending the EMM's to the readers.

[Dream1975]

Don't forget to add au = 1 here too !!!

 

Done and now I also see EMM's. But when placing back the local card they still are stopped being send to the remote card/reader. Have to find a solution for that and then all will be perfect

 

*edit* @Alex, I just now see your commment (after typing the message). I'll investigate (in an hour I think) and let the outcome know,,,

Edited by Dream1975, 23 July 2017 - 10:43.

[Dream1975]

I already had 1,2 in group.

 

As long as local has a card the remote doesn't get anything (when I remove the card it does). See enclosed screenprints (the bax has been rebooted 15 minutes ago, so that's why there are so little ECM/EMM's

 

@Alex, how can I access the live logs?

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Edited by Dream1975, 23 July 2017 - 12:32.

[Dream1975]

I borrowed the smartcard of my neighbour (who has Ziggo sport) and put it in the second reader in the bedroom. If I then downstairs watch a channel in the Ziggo sport subscription (while also having my own cards in the bedroom and livingroom who don't have this subscription) suddenly BOTH cards (my neigbours and mine) in the bedroom do get updates.

 

So I think it has to do with OScam preferring local for descrambling (and if it finds a proper smartcard it doesn't touch the remote one therefore not sending any updates). As both of my cards have the same channels it will never call (and therefore update) the upstairs one as it will always use local and thus ignore the remote reader.

Edited by Dream1975, 23 July 2017 - 13:08.

[Pr2]

OScam only update the card that it is using, so EMM are only sent to the card where the ECM goes to.

[Dream1975]

So not possible to update cards it is not (directly) using. I then think I'll setup the epg refresh plugin in the bedroom then (to in the night once a week go to a tuner channel), not for updating the epg but the card.

[Alex_NL]

@Alex, how can I access the live logs?

Just click on Live Log on top of the WebIF page (between Status and Config), then below click on Show Settings and click on 64 in the line 'Switch Debug from 0 to'.
 

But it's quite possible that EMM's are only sent to the card that OScam uses and I can imagine that the local card is preferred.
You could decide to use just one card because that card can handle multiple ECM's at once easily.