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#1 uknetfreak

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Posted 22 July 2017 - 18:06

This is very strange. I have three identical Edision OS Mini receivers. I have flashed each of them with identical builds of Open PLI 6. Whilst it would be nice if Edision could fix the drivers for multi refresh to work correctly (like ZGemma seem to have done), I have tried to get Auto Resolution to work. I have got it to work fine on two receivers but very oddly, the same settings don't work on the other. Does anyone have any suggestions to get it to work on all three. The reason I want it to work is that I have a collection of IPTV TV streams at 60Hz and it's a pain to have to manually switch the receiver that doesn't change automatically.

 

Incidently, is there any way to enable 720p30 or 720p60 mode in Autoresolution as this may work as well.


Edited by uknetfreak, 22 July 2017 - 18:09.


Re: Weird Edision / Refresh / Autoresolution #2 WanWizard

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 14:09

You mean that when the box is configured for multi, it doesn't switch it output from 50Hz to 6Hz and back?

 

The modes made available by the driver are in /proc/stb/video/videomode_choices. The OSmini+ reports "pal60 pal 576i 576p ntsc 480i 480p 720p50 720p60 720p 1080i50 1080i 1080p24 1080p25 1080p30 1080p50 1080p60 1080p", so no 720p30 on the plus. The AutoResolution plugin uses this list, so if it isn't there, the drivers do not support it.


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Posted 23 July 2017 - 16:20

The thing is that all three Edision have EXACTLY the same setup and are EXACTLY the same model. For some reason one of them doesn't seem to behave like it's brothers! If Edision won't fix the drivers so AutoResolution is not required, would it be possible to make AutoResolution make rate changes based on the Service Name (Channel Name). Becuase I have noticed that sometimes the stream/channel is not picked up correctly so the switch doesn't happen. If I had any coding ability I'd write it myself. I believe the service name can be read by issues the following command in a browser... http://dreambox/web/subservice which I suppose can be read within a python script?


Edited by uknetfreak, 23 July 2017 - 16:25.


Re: Weird Edision / Refresh / Autoresolution #4 WanWizard

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 16:38

If you can formulate exactly what is wrong with the drivers, we can make an attempted to pass that on to the Edision developers.

 

What do you mean by "not picked up correctly"? You zap to the stream, but the stream doesn't start? Or any other error?


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Posted 23 July 2017 - 17:16

OK... let's forget Autoresolution entirely. In theory on OpenPLI or indeed any Enigma2 image, the setting of the "multi" option in as the refresh rate under A/V settings is supposed to cause the receiver to switch between 50Hz and 60Hz as the channel or stream dictates. However, it has been well documented that on many boxes, this doesn't function and you therefore have to manually change it as required. Whilst I appreciate most people will only be watching channels from their own country, there are now many people with IPTV channels set in their bouquets. I have managed to get my IPTV streams into a bouquet, some are 50Hz, some are 60Hz. On my collection of three H5 Zgemma boxes, there is no need for Autoresolution and becuase the manufacturer has fixed the drivers, I can switch from channel to channel and set zap timers happily.

 

As far as Autoresolution is concerned, as the rate changes seem to relate to the resolution and/or refresh rate picked up in the stream, sometimes the streams show as 1280x720 with a rate of 0. But this doesn't happen all the time. That's why I figured that it Auoresolution can make it's changes based on the Channel Name it would then switch without having to look at the other (sometimes wrong) stream data.


Edited by uknetfreak, 23 July 2017 - 17:17.


Re: Weird Edision / Refresh / Autoresolution #6 WanWizard

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 17:38

That sounds like a very small edge case for a specific purpose, not something that should be implemented in generic code.

 

If the drivers contain a bug, than that bug needs adressing. If you can come up with a test case (for example a bouquet file with two stream entries) that can be used to reproduce the problem reliablity, we can run that against all receivers, see which one has an issue with it and which hasn't, and give the manufacturer a good bollocking if it has?


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Posted 23 July 2017 - 17:56

Well, I can't give my main IPTV list as that contains account info, but I can provide a part of my "NEWS" bouquet which illustrates the problem...

 

#NAME IPTV (News)
#SERVICE 1:64:11:0:0:0:0:0:0:0::Feeds
#DESCRIPTION Feeds
#SERVICE 4097:0:1:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:http%3a//abclive.abcnews.com/i/abc_live1@136327/index_2500_av-p.m3u8:ABC News Live Feed 1 (USA) [720]
#DESCRIPTION ABC News Live Feed 1 (USA) [720]

#SERVICE 4097:0:1:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:http%3a//cbsnewshd-lh.akamaihd.net/i/CBSNHD_7@199302/index_2200_av-p.m3u8:CBSN (USA) [720]
#DESCRIPTION CBSN (USA) [720]

 

Works fine on Zgamma H5 with no autoresolution installed.

Hit and miss on two of my Edision (but only using autoresolution) and cannot get to switch automatically at all on the other.

 

Feel free to experiment, it would be great if you can compile a definitive list of boxes that don't work and "request" the manufacturer to address the issue. Thanks again.



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Posted 23 July 2017 - 17:56

Auto Resolution has never switched to 60fps if the stream is 720x60. It does however switch if the stream is 720x30 This is because there has never been an option added for this. Its a right pain.

 

Also the Multi setting has never worked on VU+ boxes either, I can confirm that here too.

 

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 18:40

That would suggest the drivers simply don't support it, so AR does (try to) switch to 60fps, but the drivers don't do anything with it. Unfortunately a common issue with VU+.

 

Zgemma actively sells in the US, so they have a vested interest in making this work.


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Re: Weird Edision / Refresh / Autoresolution #10 Dimitrij

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 20:16

ian1095

test

add 720p60

 

/usr/lib/enigma2/python/SystemPlugins/AutoResolution/

 


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Re: Weird Edision / Refresh / Autoresolution #11 WanWizard

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 20:37

Tried the two IPTV channels on my Mutant HD2400, zapping back and forth without issues.


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Re: Weird Edision / Refresh / Autoresolution #12 uknetfreak

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 21:34

OK, those channels might not be showing the content to show up the problem. If you watch a channel with a scrolling ticker, when the change is not working correctly, it is very jerky.

 

Please try

 

#SERVICE 4097:0:1:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:http%3a//tvemsnbc-lh.akamaihd.net/i/nbcmsnbc_1@122532/index_2596_av-b.m3u8: 0=0; 0
#DESCRIPTION  MSNBC

 

and see what that looks like.
 



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Posted 23 July 2017 - 22:26

I have tried that attached file and even after rebooting, I am not seeing an entry to Enable 720p60. Incidently as a further piece of information, when I say I have Autoresolution working on two Edision, it's not really working properly. It's more of a cludge. My main TV viewing is in 1080i. Most of my streams are 720p60. If I set HD progressive mode to 1080p 60. When I switch back to my 1080i channel, it switches back. If I am careful and think about my timer recordings, I can switch out of a channel for a minute and back to another one but it is just such a pain. I would either like a properly working autoresolution or better still, working drivers.


Edited by uknetfreak, 23 July 2017 - 22:27.


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Posted 24 July 2017 - 08:09

Hi,

a few years ago I found a similar point. While watching IPTV it often happened that either resolution and/or frequency was interpreted wrong by E2 and I had an info like

1280 x 0 @ 30Hz or 960 x 500 @ 0Hz which is of course not very good for AR. I changed it and asked the hardware through /dev/ which resolution and frequency is currently used and this worked very stable. As I said it was a few years ago and could have changed in the mean time.

 

Try to add or activate debug output for AR and play some files an look what it says about the resolution.

 

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 09:06

You mean that when the box is configured for multi, it doesn't switch it output from 50Hz to 6Hz and back?

 

The modes made available by the driver are in /proc/stb/video/videomode_choices. The OSmini+ reports "pal60 pal 576i 576p ntsc 480i 480p 720p50 720p60 720p 1080i50 1080i 1080p24 1080p25 1080p30 1080p50 1080p60 1080p", so no 720p30 on the plus. The AutoResolution plugin uses this list, so if it isn't there, the drivers do not support it.

Don't rely on that list. You'll find this list to be often incorrect, offering modes that aren't supported.


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Re: Weird Edision / Refresh / Autoresolution #16 WanWizard

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 10:36

True.

 

So "if it isn't in the list, it's not supported. if it is in the list, it still might not be supported".


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Re: Weird Edision / Refresh / Autoresolution #17 Erik Slagter

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 10:47

Yeah, sadly true.


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Posted 24 July 2017 - 10:54

I have tried that attached file and even after rebooting, I am not seeing an entry to Enable 720p60. Incidently as a further piece of information, when I say I have Autoresolution working on two Edision, it's not really working properly. It's more of a cludge. My main TV viewing is in 1080i. Most of my streams are 720p60. If I set HD progressive mode to 1080p 60. When I switch back to my 1080i channel, it switches back. If I am careful and think about my timer recordings, I can switch out of a channel for a minute and back to another one but it is just such a pain. I would either like a properly working autoresolution or better still, working drivers.

720p60 = 720p https://github.com/O...Hardware.py#L33


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Re: Weird Edision / Refresh / Autoresolution #19 Erik Slagter

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 13:05

Indeed, 720p60 is often abbreviated to 720p. Which I think is incorrect, but who am I to say ;) Similarly 1080p.


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Re: Weird Edision / Refresh / Autoresolution #20 Dimitrij

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 19:57

uknetfreak

new test...

add 720p60

 

/usr/lib/enigma2/python/SystemPlugins/AutoResolution/

 

cat  /proc/stb/video/videomode_choices --> OSmini+ reports "pal60 pal 576i 576p ntsc 480i 480p 720p50 720p60(need this!) 720p 1080i50 1080i 1080p24 1080p25 1080p30 1080p50 1080p60 1080p"

Use 'HD progressive mode as 720p60'


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