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SAT>IP broken on every release OpenPli 4-6rc
Started by Demetris, 19 Aug 2017 17:18
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Re: SAT>IP broken on every release OpenPli 4-6rc #61
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Posted 6 September 2017 - 12:19
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Re: SAT>IP broken on every release OpenPli 4-6rc #62
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Posted 6 September 2017 - 12:45
I really don't know what do do with that. I am not a developer and don't want to become one.
Re: SAT>IP broken on every release OpenPli 4-6rc #63
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Posted 6 September 2017 - 17:33
@Littlesat: it's not that way. I started off with the version we're now using, a version forked from forked from forked by ATV but a) couldn't get it working (not even compiling, iirc) and 
the git history was a real mess, so I couldn't see when what was changed. So I went back one fork and I got that working. Only it isn't maintained, by nobody. So at one moment someone decided we should ship the ATV version as well. Fine with me, if they can get it working. I already made my mind up, this is really not something meant for daily use (on an enigma receiver).
Edited by Erik Slagter, 6 September 2017 - 17:33.
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Re: SAT>IP broken on every release OpenPli 4-6rc #64
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Posted 6 September 2017 - 17:56
Perhaps you are right because at the moment the Satipclient seems be unfinished. But since the protocol it is used by other clients without problems I find it's not a general problem of Sat>ip.this is really not something meant for daily use (on an enigma receiver).
For me it would be very useful if only the initialisation would work with my Server.
Re: SAT>IP broken on every release OpenPli 4-6rc #65
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Posted 6 September 2017 - 18:12
The client and the server need both work AND many receivers don't support it well.
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Re: SAT>IP broken on every release OpenPli 4-6rc #66
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Posted 6 September 2017 - 18:57
I started off with the version we're now using, a version forked from forked from forked by ATV but a) couldn't get it working (not even compiling, iirc) and
It would be so nice when the OE-A team solves their fixes where they belong by placing merge requests by the 'real source; instead of making a mess of a fork....
That was also why I was thinking to revert Dima's merge request -the- switchs to oe-a's fork from a fork..
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Re: SAT>IP broken on every release OpenPli 4-6rc #67
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Posted 7 September 2017 - 15:07
The original hasn't been maintained for a long time. So OAE is in their right to fork. But I'd rather have seen proper git usage instead of what they do now.
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Re: SAT>IP broken on every release OpenPli 4-6rc #68
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Posted 9 September 2017 - 13:53
I have replaced the Kathrein EXIP 414/e by a Megasat MEG-8000 SAT>IP Server 3.
The Megasat doesn't show those inkompatiblities with OpenPLi and supposedly the other Enigma2 firmwares.
I still think, the SatipClient has compatibility issues but I understand you cannot check every server on the market with your software.
So maybe it would be a way to go and create a user maintained list which Sat>ip servers work with which sat connection with OpenPLI to save other users going through the same troubles I had.
Edited by umtauscher, 9 September 2017 - 13:58.
Re: SAT>IP broken on every release OpenPli 4-6rc #69
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 16:47
It's the other way around. The question is not which SAP>IP servers are compatible with PLi (although maybe some incompabitibilities do exist between certain servers and the SAT>IP client we have in our feed). The question is which receivers have proper driver support for vtuners, which you need for SAT>IP.
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Re: SAT>IP broken on every release OpenPli 4-6rc #70
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 17:32
I see that differently.
On both my Vu+ the Kathrein server caused problems and the Megasat doesn't so the same drivers/vtuners are used.
On both my Vu+ the Kathrein server caused problems and the Megasat doesn't so the same drivers/vtuners are used.
Edited by umtauscher, 12 September 2017 - 17:32.
Re: SAT>IP broken on every release OpenPli 4-6rc #71
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 21:02
So the Megasat is using the VU+ DVB drivers? That would be odd?
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Re: SAT>IP broken on every release OpenPli 4-6rc #72
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 21:14
We are talking about Sat>ip, are we not?
It's using the Sat>ip client with the vtuners - or am I missing something?
It's using the Sat>ip client with the vtuners - or am I missing something?
Re: SAT>IP broken on every release OpenPli 4-6rc #73
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 21:15
Experience #1, a general issue thar Erik tries to explain, is that vtuner implementations by manufacturers several times proven broken, buggy, low quality.
So since the Sat>IP implementation of Enigma depends on vtuner (what else could use?) and since the vtuner is not very good implemented by manufactures, problem might be on the vtuner.
Issue #1, Kathrein EXIP 414/e seems not to cooperate well with SAT>IP client that OE-A and OpenPLi uses.
Finding #1, Megasat MEG-8000 seems to cooperate well with SAT>IP client that OE-A and OpenPLi uses.
So we are discussing here 3 different things, 1. general experience with vtuner. 2 issue with kathrein. 3. info that megasat works.
In concusion, please inform Kathrein that their product is not communicating well with Open Source SAT>IP client for Enigma2 available here: https://github.com/o...ce/satip-client
They can send patches in order to improove open source SAT>IP client in order to cooperate with their product (if problem is on client)
Or they can fix their product (if problem is on server).
If they do nothing, Enigma2 users will not buy this product since it is not wokring. They should prefer Megasat.
So since the Sat>IP implementation of Enigma depends on vtuner (what else could use?) and since the vtuner is not very good implemented by manufactures, problem might be on the vtuner.
Issue #1, Kathrein EXIP 414/e seems not to cooperate well with SAT>IP client that OE-A and OpenPLi uses.
Finding #1, Megasat MEG-8000 seems to cooperate well with SAT>IP client that OE-A and OpenPLi uses.
So we are discussing here 3 different things, 1. general experience with vtuner. 2 issue with kathrein. 3. info that megasat works.
In concusion, please inform Kathrein that their product is not communicating well with Open Source SAT>IP client for Enigma2 available here: https://github.com/o...ce/satip-client
They can send patches in order to improove open source SAT>IP client in order to cooperate with their product (if problem is on client)
Or they can fix their product (if problem is on server).
If they do nothing, Enigma2 users will not buy this product since it is not wokring. They should prefer Megasat.
Edited by athoik, 12 September 2017 - 21:16.
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