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[FelixF]

Hello,

 

I use a Vu+ Solo2 running Openpli4 and just received my Tbs5925. I loaded the TBS driver, and it is working but cannot retrieve the multistream channels on AB3 5°W

Question is simple : what I do to solve this issue ?

I can read french, dutch, german, english, italian but NOT greek or russian !!!

 

Tnx

Felix

[athoik]

1. Use rc-6 that includes multistream.

2. Use http://satellites-xml.org/ to get satellites.xml with multistream values.

[WanWizard]

Athoik,

 

What multistream values? Can you post what the correct entries for 5W transponder 12648 V should look like, so we can compare it ours and to info at https://www.lyngsat....t-5-West-A.html and update the parser?

[littlesat]

That transponder should be in that satellites.xml lines

[littlesat]

And indeed the parser needs to be adapted for it..

[WanWizard]

Hence the reason I asked.

[athoik]

@wanwizard, please ask @huevos, the parser requires to grab also is_id, pls_code, pls_mode.

Not sure if sites include those values.

[athoik]

Eg.the following includes all of them.

DVB-S2
PLS gold 131070
multistream
stream 2

Edited by athoik, 23 August 2017 - 18:00.

[WanWizard]

as in: pls_mode = gold, pls_code = 131070, is_id = 2 ?

[elsato]

5.0°W Eutelsat 5 West A

satellites.xml multistream frequencies

  <transponder frequency="11012000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="7" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="16416" is_id="2"/>
  <transponder frequency="11012000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="7" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="16416" is_id="11"/>
  <transponder frequency="11012000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="7" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="1" pls_code="131070" is_id="2"/>
  <transponder frequency="11012000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="7" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="1" pls_code="131070" is_id="11"/>
  <transponder frequency="11179000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="7" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="16416" is_id="4"/>
  <transponder frequency="11179000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="7" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="16416" is_id="5"/>
  <transponder frequency="11179000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="7" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="16416" is_id="12"/>
  <transponder frequency="11179000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="7" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="1" pls_code="131070" is_id="4"/>
  <transponder frequency="11179000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="7" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="1" pls_code="131070" is_id="5"/>
  <transponder frequency="11179000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="7" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="1" pls_code="131070" is_id="12"/>
  <transponder frequency="11509000" symbol_rate="29500000" polarization="0" fec_inner="6" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="1" pls_code="50416" is_id="1"/>
  <transponder frequency="11509000" symbol_rate="29500000" polarization="0" fec_inner="6" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="1" pls_code="50416" is_id="4"/>
  <transponder frequency="11509000" symbol_rate="29500000" polarization="0" fec_inner="6" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="1" pls_code="50416" is_id="6"/>
  <transponder frequency="11637000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="7" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="16416" is_id="1"/>
  <transponder frequency="11637000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="7" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="16416" is_id="2"/>
  <transponder frequency="11637000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="7" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="16416" is_id="3"/>
  <transponder frequency="11637000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="7" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="16416" is_id="4"/>
  <transponder frequency="11637000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="7" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="16416" is_id="5"/>
  <transponder frequency="11637000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="7" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="1" pls_code="131070" is_id="1"/>
  <transponder frequency="11637000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="7" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="1" pls_code="131070" is_id="2"/>
  <transponder frequency="11637000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="7" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="1" pls_code="131070" is_id="3"/>
  <transponder frequency="11637000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="7" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="1" pls_code="131070" is_id="4"/>
  <transponder frequency="11637000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="7" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="1" pls_code="131070" is_id="5"/>
  <transponder frequency="11675000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="16416" is_id="7"/>
  <transponder frequency="11675000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="16416" is_id="8"/>
  <transponder frequency="11675000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="16416" is_id="9"/>
  <transponder frequency="11675000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="16416" is_id="10"/>
  <transponder frequency="11675000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="16416" is_id="11"/>
  <transponder frequency="11675000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="16416" is_id="12"/>
  <transponder frequency="11675000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="16416" is_id="13"/>
  <transponder frequency="11675000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="16416" is_id="14"/>
  <transponder frequency="11675000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="16416" is_id="15"/>
  <transponder frequency="11675000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="16416" is_id="16"/>
  <transponder frequency="11675000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="1" pls_code="131070" is_id="7"/>
  <transponder frequency="11675000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="1" pls_code="131070" is_id="8"/>
  <transponder frequency="11675000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="1" pls_code="131070" is_id="9"/>
  <transponder frequency="11675000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="1" pls_code="131070" is_id="10"/>
  <transponder frequency="11675000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="1" pls_code="131070" is_id="11"/>
  <transponder frequency="11675000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="1" pls_code="131070" is_id="12"/>
  <transponder frequency="11675000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="1" pls_code="131070" is_id="13"/>
  <transponder frequency="11675000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="1" pls_code="131070" is_id="14"/>
  <transponder frequency="11675000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="1" pls_code="131070" is_id="15"/>
  <transponder frequency="11675000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="1" pls_code="131070" is_id="16"/>
  <transponder frequency="12585000" symbol_rate="35000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="8" is_id="1"/>
  <transponder frequency="12585000" symbol_rate="35000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="8" is_id="2"/>
  <transponder frequency="12606000" symbol_rate="35000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="8" is_id="1"/>
  <transponder frequency="12606000" symbol_rate="35000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="8" is_id="2"/>
  <transponder frequency="12627000" symbol_rate="35000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="8" is_id="1"/>
  <transponder frequency="12627000" symbol_rate="35000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="8" is_id="2"/>
  <transponder frequency="12648000" symbol_rate="29500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="6" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="1" pls_code="121212" is_id="1"/>
  <transponder frequency="12648000" symbol_rate="29500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="6" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="1" pls_code="121212" is_id="2"/>
  <transponder frequency="12648000" symbol_rate="29500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="6" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="1" pls_code="121212" is_id="3"/>
  <transponder frequency="12669000" symbol_rate="35000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="8" is_id="1"/>
  <transponder frequency="12669000" symbol_rate="35000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="8" is_id="2"/>
  <transponder frequency="12711000" symbol_rate="35500000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="8" is_id="1"/>
  <transponder frequency="12711000" symbol_rate="35500000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="8" is_id="2"/>
  <transponder frequency="12711000" symbol_rate="35500000" polarization="0" fec_inner="2" system="1" modulation="2" pls_mode="0" pls_code="8" is_id="3"/>

[elsato]

pls_mode="0" = Root
pls_mode="1" = Gold
pls_mode="2" = Combo (not necessary anymore)

[WanWizard]

Ok, cool. That doesn't look too complicated. On the todo list then...

[WanWizard]

@El Sato,

 

Why are in your example all transponders defined with both mode 0 and mode 1, while only one is present?

[athoik]

He used the convertion formula to get both possible values.

#include <stdio.h>
#include <string.h>

typedef unsigned int u32;

/* This should maybe go into dvb-core/dvb_math.c */
static u32 gold2root(u32 gold)
{
        u32 x, g;

        if (gold >= 0x3ffff)
                gold = 0;
        for (g = 0, x = 1; g < gold; g++)
                x = (((x ^ (x >> 7)) & 1) << 17) | (x >> 1);        return x;
}

int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
        u32 gold = atol(argv[1]);
        u32 root = gold2root(gold);
        printf("gold %d -> root %d\n", gold, root);
        return 0;
}

Above is from Digital Devices: https://github.com/D...f1250bbbeb0c7c6


With above code you can get ouput in a file, for greping, or in db...

seq 0 262143 | xargs -L1 r2g > r2g.log

gold 0 -> root 1
gold 1 -> root 131072
gold 2 -> root 65536
...

[WanWizard]

Not sure what I can or have to do with that.

 

I have a string with:

DVB-S2 PLS gold 131070 multistream stream 5

which I convert to

pls_mode="1" pls_code="131070" is_id="5"

correct ?

 

Why should I then add a second transponder with the same entries for all fields, but with pls_mode 0?

[Huevos]

Why should I then add a second transponder with the same entries for all fields, but with pls_mode 0?

Because some chipsets may be able to deal with one mode but not another. For example the HD51/SF4008 can't open PLS Combo mode, but convert to Gold or Root and you can open the stream.

 

What we really need is a formula to convert Combo to Gold, and Combo to Root.

 

By the way http://satellites-xml.org is my site. Basically it is just an online frontend to the code that creates OE-Alliance's satellites.xml.

[WanWizard]

I knew that.

 

But that doesn't really help me, the question was, what do I convert

DVB-S2 PLS gold 131070 multistream stream 5

to?

 

I don't see any Combo defined on 5W, so for that position this is not really relevant.

 

Don't forget Multistream is complete abracadabra for me, I can't receive it, and I have no clue what the numbers in Athoik's post mean, let alone what should be converted to what.

[Huevos]

I can't see the point doing that. The values are interchangeable so all that is doing as far as I can see is increasing the time it takes to do a scan (due to double scanning) for no benefit.

 

Re:Combo mode, there is only one transponder listed across the entire arc on Lyngsat and that is on 30w.

 

Doing a Gold to Root conversion means you don't need a PLS mode column in your DB. Apart from that I can't see any additional benefit as all STBs so far can handle both modes. But at the moment I don't do it. I just list the transponders exactly how they are on Lyngsat.

Edited by Huevos, 24 August 2017 - 01:47.

[WanWizard]

Ok, clear.

 

The post from @El Sato confused me, I plan to do exactly the same as you.

[WanWizard]

As of today, our satellite.xml file also includes the multistream transponder parameters: https://github.com/O...3b296c9bbb2c5a6