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Re: Still can't grasp the FBC and Unicable setup possibilities #161 GThomas

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Posted 27 November 2018 - 10:17

And definitely a flash drive and inverto programmer.
In the same binder as paperwork.

Full backup copy of VU+
Settings backup for VU+
Settings copy for inverto switches.
Copy of inverto programming app.
PDF copy of printed guide.

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Re: Still can't grasp the FBC and Unicable setup possibilities #162 GThomas

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Posted 29 November 2018 - 14:40

VU+ officially lost by courier.
Pushing for refund and simultaneously re- ordering, this time from that american moloch of online shopping.

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Re: Still can't grasp the FBC and Unicable setup possibilities #163 WanWizard

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Posted 29 November 2018 - 14:51

VU+ officially lost by courier

 

You mean "nicked by driver"? Wouldn't be the first, happened to me several times, for some reason always with Yodel. Delivered and signed for, but not at my address, and not signed by me...


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Re: Still can't grasp the FBC and Unicable setup possibilities #164 GThomas

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Posted 30 November 2018 - 10:23

A silly one.
I could check myself, but I'm on site and Zgemma is at home.

Due to lack of that vu+, I'd use Zgemma just to check/set the dishes.
By the time vu+ arrives I may have no access to the roof.

So, question:

Does H7S with OpenPLI work with JESS? Its not an FBC tuner, but if I can get single tuner to catch all 3 satellites, then I should have no problems setting that VU+ after, right?

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Re: Still can't grasp the FBC and Unicable setup possibilities #165 gorski

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Posted 30 November 2018 - 11:38

Geezuss Marx wept! :D And I thought I was complicating... :D

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Re: Still can't grasp the FBC and Unicable setup possibilities #166 WanWizard

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Posted 30 November 2018 - 11:44

Does H7S with OpenPLI work with JESS? Its not an FBC tuner, but if I can get single tuner to catch all 3 satellites, then I should have no problems setting that VU+ after, right?

 

Yes, JESS is not linked to FBC, it works the same on a single tuner.


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Re: Still can't grasp the FBC and Unicable setup possibilities #167 GThomas

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Posted 8 December 2018 - 19:34

VU+ UNO 4K SE

 

finally arrived.

 

it had some firmware, i have no idea what was it, image name said something like "experimental-2018-06"

 

and it didnt support multiswitches i got anyway.

 

so i flashed OpenPLI of course.

 

now i`m on the tuner setup page, and frankly.. i`m not sure do i know what am i doing..

 

multiswitches are set as follows:

 

28.2E - position "A"

19.2E - positiion "B"

13E - position "C"

position "D" not used

 

now on OpenPLI i`m on this screen:

 

Configuration mode: advanced

satellite: 28..2E Astra 2E/2F/2G (to be set separately for each position, i guess, leaving not used satellites as "not configured")

LNB: LNB1

priority: auto

type of LNB/device: SCR(Unicable/JESS)

SCR(Unicable/JESS) type: SCR(Unicable/JESS) switch

manufacturer: Inverto

model: IDLU-UWT110-CUO10-32P (out of memory, need to confirm on site- now i`m doing this at home)

position:1 (have available either "1" or "2"- what does this do? would it be my A/B/C/D from switches? in that case i would need more settings than just 1&2...)

channel: SCR1(1210)

diseqc mode: none

 

 

would do with some guidance here..

 

especially- how to set A/B/C/D as it is set on multiswitches..


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Re: Still can't grasp the FBC and Unicable setup possibilities #168 GThomas

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Posted 8 December 2018 - 19:38

Or do i "fire up" DISDEqC to level 1.0?

 

this seems to extend the above list to:

 

DISEqC mode: 1.0

fast DISEqC: on/off (off at the moment)

toneburst: none

DISEqC command: PORT A (available A,B,C&D)

sequence repeat: yes/no


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Re: Still can't grasp the FBC and Unicable setup possibilities #169 GThomas

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Posted 9 December 2018 - 10:23

I think I've found it..

Its LNB1, LNB2, LNB3 for each position, without DISEqC.

New trouble, though..

Yesterday we had roofer working by the dishes.

Now I have 100%(strength)/95%(quality) on astra 28.
And 0%/0% on astra 19 and hotbird.

Not going to the roof today, no way.

That's job for tomorrow.

Scanning anyway- it brings me few channels from hotbird.
And lots from 28.2.

Have to wait to see 19.2E results.

PS: after only 3 days of waiting for royal mail to bring me parts, I fixed car! Mobile again!

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Re: Still can't grasp the FBC and Unicable setup possibilities #170 GThomas

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 13:51

Mess..

Proper mess..

So, by setting as follows:

28.2E: LNB1, SCR, SCR SWITCH, INVERTO, IDLU-...-32PP, POSITION 1, SCR1, DISEQC- NO
19.2E: LNB2, SCR, SCR SWITCH, INVERTO, IDLU-...-32PP, POSITION 1, SCR1, DISEQC- NO
13.0E: LNB3, SCR, SCR SWITCH, INVERTO, IDLU-...-32PP, POSITION 2, SCR1, DISEQC- NO

I do have signal off 28.2E, but nothing else.

That's with dishes plugged as follows:

28.2E (V+H) input A (first multi switch, first input)
19.3E (V+H) input B (first multi switch, second input)
13.0E (V+H) input C (second multi switch, first input)

By coincidence (trying little test) I've set second dish (designated for 19.2) onto hotbird 13E.

I've got signal from both 28.2 and 13E.

Unplugged second multi switch.

Both signals remained.

Right.. Me thinks.. 13E is set as LNB3, why it gets signal from first box, then?

I've set it as LNB2.

Signal lost.

Set it back as LNB3.

Signal restored.

Set it as position 1.

Signal lost

Set it as position 2.

Signal restored.

So in the end I have:

28.2E,as LNB1, position 1
13.0E, as LNB3, position 2.

Nowhere I can see ability to set position 3, and I guess that's what needed for third dish now..

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Re: Still can't grasp the FBC and Unicable setup possibilities #171 GThomas

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 13:58

Its an early assumption/guess, but does OenPli support these switches with more than 2 positions?

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Re: Still can't grasp the FBC and Unicable setup possibilities #172 GThomas

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 15:08

Update (and I had to go off site in the meantime)

I can confirm good signals on all 3 satellites.

But I can connect only 2 at once.

Later I will try to change inverto mmidel of multi switch for one (different make?) that supports at least 4 positions.

May work. Or not. Will see.

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Re: Still can't grasp the FBC and Unicable setup possibilities #173 gorski

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 16:31

How many users?

Wouldn't T90 be better, say with OCTO LNBs, for up to 8 tuners?


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Re: Still can't grasp the FBC and Unicable setup possibilities #174 GThomas

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 17:08

How many users?
Wouldn't T90 be better, say with OCTO LNBs, for up to 8 tuners?

Nope. Not with FBC cluster. With octo lnbs I'd have to feed one cable per tuner into receiver, and FBC card has only 2 coaxial inputs.

Anyway- signals are fine. No need for another dish. Its switching these signals that seems to be the problem.

Number of users: well... One.

One VU+ Uno 4K se with 8 tuners aboard.

Edited by GThomas, 10 December 2018 - 17:09.

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Re: Still can't grasp the FBC and Unicable setup possibilities #175 gorski

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 19:17

And you need 8 tuners because...???

 

(Just trying to understand...)

 

Edit: 1 x T90 with the rest staying the same as now would be cheaper and more efficient?


Edited by gorski, 10 December 2018 - 19:19.

<span style='font-family: comic sans ms,cursive'>"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-incurred immaturity. Immaturity is the inability to use one's own understanding without the guidance of another. This immaturity is self-incurred if its cause is not lack of understanding, but lack of resolution and courage to use it without the guidance of another. The motto of enlightenment is therefore: Sapere aude! Have courage to use your own understanding!</span><br /> <br /><span style='font-family: comic sans ms,cursive'>Laziness and cowardice are the reasons why such a large proportion of men, even when nature has long emancipated them from alien guidance..." I. Kant, "Political writings" (1784)</span><br /> <br /><span style='font-family: comic sans ms,cursive'><a class='bbc_url' href='<a class='bbc_url' href='http://eserver.org/p...lightenment.txt'>http://eserver.org/p...ent.txt</a>'><a class='bbc_url' href='http://www.english.upenn.edu/~mgamer/Etexts/kant.html</a>'>http://www.english.upenn.edu/~mgamer/Etexts/kant.html</a></a> - the jolly text on Enlightenment, at the basis of Modernity...</span>

Re: Still can't grasp the FBC and Unicable setup possibilities #176 WanWizard

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 19:18

I think you need to reread the entire thread.


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Re: Still can't grasp the FBC and Unicable setup possibilities #177 gorski

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 19:21

I think I do not. The Q is relevant.

 

And perhaps one can streamline the setup - as per my additional Q...?


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Re: Still can't grasp the FBC and Unicable setup possibilities #178 GThomas

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 19:39

I think I do not. The Q is relevant.
 
And perhaps one can streamline the setup - as per my additional Q...?


Answer to this question is in post #75 of this thread.

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Re: Still can't grasp the FBC and Unicable setup possibilities #179 HWTest

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 20:17

 Inverto Unicable II multiswitch 5/32 IDLU-UWT110-CUO1O-32P is for four satellites and I'm pretty sure Jultec has also multiswitches for four satellites.



Re: Still can't grasp the FBC and Unicable setup possibilities #180 GThomas

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 20:34

Exactly right.

But there seems to be a.. trouble when trying to set up more than 2 sat positions on these, using OpenPli.

It looks like OpenPli by itself supports these switches with only 2 sat positions. Confirmation on this, please :)

In the meantime I'll check what other, supported by OpenPli, switches can offer 4 positions, and set the VU+ with one of these models. But I'll keep invertos connected.

If commands are the same between models (and I can't see why not) it might work..

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