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#1 hu2

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Posted 28 August 2017 - 07:25

Kia ora,

My Vu+ duo has started freezing when I fast rewind/forward Hdd recordings. The only way out is a reboot from the power switch at the back. Very low speeds 2x 4x 8x ok but once I go over there's an immediate freeze. It's not the Hdd (although it's a few years old) as I have tested on two other hdd by usb. Updated software to 60.rc. but no different.



Re: vu+ duo recordings freezing on rewind/forward #2 Demetris

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Posted 28 August 2017 - 11:37

Did you change those junk capacitors? they say 85c on them *forgot the brand :)*



Re: vu+ duo recordings freezing on rewind/forward #3 hu2

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Posted 28 August 2017 - 13:00

Did you change those junk capacitors? they say 85c on them *forgot the brand :)*

You have a good memory. No I retired it for over a year. Then got it out again flashed it and its been mostly good although sometimes doesn't start and needs power off on. Not often but yes Caps could be the go now with this hdd problem... cheaper than a new one. Just not sure about the service guys in my town.



Re: vu+ duo recordings freezing on rewind/forward #4 Demetris

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 07:26

When you see "Sam Young" replace asap then you have a brand new machine with lots of years ahead.

Make sure you replace those on power supply too if i remember right there were 4.

My DUO never been better after recap, no issues what so ever working 24h without restarts on OpenATV 6.1



Re: vu+ duo recordings freezing on rewind/forward #5 hu2

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Posted 30 August 2017 - 05:17

When you see "Sam Young" replace asap then you have a brand new machine with lots of years ahead.

Make sure you replace those on power supply too if i remember right there were 4.

My DUO never been better after recap, no issues what so ever working 24h without restarts on OpenATV 6.1

"Sam Young" sorry Demetris what does that mean??



Re: vu+ duo recordings freezing on rewind/forward #6 hu2

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Posted 30 August 2017 - 06:26

 

When you see "Sam Young" replace asap then you have a brand new machine with lots of years ahead.

Make sure you replace those on power supply too if i remember right there were 4.

My DUO never been better after recap, no issues what so ever working 24h without restarts on OpenATV 6.1

"Sam Young" sorry Demetris what does that mean??

 

 

When you see "Sam Young" replace asap then you have a brand new machine with lots of years ahead.

Make sure you replace those on power supply too if i remember right there were 4.

My DUO never been better after recap, no issues what so ever working 24h without restarts on OpenATV 6.1

oh and one more question re when i get my new hdd . will vu+ duo take a 2TB do you know?



Re: vu+ duo recordings freezing on rewind/forward #7 littlesat

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Posted 30 August 2017 - 07:05

Yep it will take... but the power supply should be good in the first place

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Re: vu+ duo recordings freezing on rewind/forward #8 Zuppelan

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Posted 30 August 2017 - 07:30

When you see "Sam Young" replace asap then you have a brand new machine with lots of years ahead.
Make sure you replace those on power supply too if i remember right there were 4.
My DUO never been better after recap, no issues what so ever working 24h without restarts on OpenATV 6.1


With all knownledge collected on the capacitor problems, there is very little that points into the direction of Sam-Young. The caps used are a "miniature series" of Sam Young, not their most-high end series. Still, the caps do much better than many replacement caps: People who replace caps report that the problems return within months, much faster than the original caps. Based on that, my impression is that the original caps must be quite reasonable. The real problem of the capacitor problems is most likely not Sam-Young, but Vu+, they used electrolytics capacitors where the manufacturers of the voltage regulators says that ceramic must be used. They might at least used a Sam Young elco series with higher specs, but they did not. It is exactly those capacitors that break, in other places the capacitors don't break at all. Therefore, I would say, at least 90% of the blame is on the side of Vu+.


Edited by Zuppelan, 30 August 2017 - 07:31.


Re: vu+ duo recordings freezing on rewind/forward #9 Zuppelan

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Posted 30 August 2017 - 07:38

Back to the original question: Not every Vu+ Duo problem has to do with capacitors, people on forums often do not do a proper diagnosis. The Vu+ Duo suffers from memory fragmentation. The problem is basically there since the device came on the market and there is little you can do against it, because it happens in kernel-space. It results into media playback problems. A reboot always helps. Allthough annoying, after a reboot, you are usually freed from such problems for several weeks.

Re: vu+ duo recordings freezing on rewind/forward #10 Erik Slagter

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Posted 30 August 2017 - 18:13

Good point. The memory fragmentation kicks in quite a bit harder using gstreamer and the dvb media sink than only doing DVB (watching TV and recording), so I think you on the money here.


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