https://www.theguard...-fox-news-in-uk
Hopefully, they do not get their grubby hands on the whole UK package, either, for the same reasons...
See, not all "media legislation" is "bad" or "for" corporations... 
Fox News outta UK...
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Very funny, considering the fact that SKY itself is very right-wing, pro-tory, and in favour of Brexit.
Also, both Fox and BSkyB are owned by Rupert Murdoch, one of the few people who always has access to Downing Street 10 (when a conservative PM is in office).
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Actually, for various reasons, I have gone through various scandals in Fox News. Sky News UK is - because of the legislation and Ofcom - like a soothing remedy, as opposed to rubbing salt into a wound, by comparison...
But of course, you are right, as in "Look at NotW" and phone hacking scandals and all the other sociopathic ways of running their empire, sure... It certainly has the potential to escalate at all times, in all directions, given half an opportunity, such is their opportunism of the ugliest kind...
Hence, all these little victories against the darkness at noon are important... 
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I'm not going for little victories, but the big one: getting the Tories out of Nr. 10.
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That's medium size...
Capitalism needs to go, m8... That would be a really big one!
If for no other reason, then: https://www.theguard...EMCNEWEML6619I2
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As long as man is greedy and hungry for power, that will never happen m8.
I fear a true utopian society is still very far off...
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Man as such is not greedy and power hungry. Some men certainly are. And as long as this one is as he is - we better do whatever we can do to stop him...
And sadly, you may be right on the second point (much as I would remove "utopian" and put "just and fair")...
But it ain't coming any time soon unless we move our sorry arses and do whatever we can to make it happen... 
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Hehehehe...
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Not a laughing matter, is it?!?
https://www.theguard...n-phone-hacking
Once again:
News Group settles 17 cases related to allegations of criminality at the Sun
Settlement with celebrities including Les Dennis and Samia Ghadie means Murdoch publisher will avoid phone-hacking trial
The settlement means that a high court trial due to hear the 17 cases in October will no longer go ahead. The trial would have aired allegations of phone hacking at the Sun – which News Group has always denied – and could have led to James Murdoch being forced to take the stand as his family try to secure a controversial £11.7bn takeover of Sky.
The settlement is likely to be worth millions of pounds. News Group has not admitted to any unlawful behaviour at the Sun as part of the settlement, which was revealed at a pre-trial review at the high court on Thursday.
The 17 cases are the first tranche of 91 new claims of phone hacking and illegally obtaining personal information against the Sun and News of the World. High-profile individuals who have not settled their claims include Sir Elton John, Gordon Ramsay, David Tennant and Heather Mills.
A court hearing for the next tranche of alleged victims is scheduled for January, when the Sky deal is still likely to be awaiting regulatory approval.
News Group has already settled hacking cases with more than 1,000 people, but these were related to the News of the World, which was closed in 2011 at the height of the hacking scandal.
Is this "upstanding citizen behaviour":
Mr Justice Mann said News Group must explain why it had redacted hundreds of documents relevant to the hacking case, and that laptops used by James Murdoch, the former chairman of News International, should be searched.
And here is the crux of the matter:
The Murdochs are awaiting an announcement from Karen Bradley, the culture secretary, on whether the government will refer Fox’s bid to the Competition and Markets Authority for a six-month investigation. This announcement is expected next week.
Bradley has already said she is minded to refer the deal on the grounds of media plurality after Ofcom raised concerns about how dominant it could make the Murdochs in public life. However, the culture secretary also said she was minded not to refer the deal on the grounds of broadcasting standards, with Ofcom clearing the Murdochs as fit and proper owners of Sky.
However, Bradley has been put under pressure by Avaaz, a campaign group, and a group of MPs led by Ed Miliband, who claim the deal should also be referred on broadcasting standards, pointing to the sexual harassment scandal at Fox News and allegations it colluded with Donald Trump’s White House on a discredited story about a murdered Democratic activist, which Fox denies.
Fox has pledged to continue broadcasting news under the Sky News brand. James Murdoch said earlier this year he was “particularly proud” of its track record. Fox has also denied claims it could push through the “Foxification” of Sky News, meaning it would broadcast news with the same rightwing slant as Fox News in the US, and insisted Ofcom regulations prevent this from happening.
Are we really this corrupt, this gullible, this idiotic or all of the above - to allow this to happen, YET AGAIN?!?
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The current Tory government is completely in the pocket of big money. And yes, most voters are that gullible. After all, they also believed all the Brexit lies.
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OPA!!!
Rupert Murdoch will be fuming today. The government just announced a full-blown investigation into his media empire. [1] The dirt it digs up will make it even more difficult for the government to approve his Sky takeover deal.
38 Degrees-ers like you helped make this happen. Hundreds of thousands of us signed petitions, sent letters to the government, and funded investigations and reports into the Murdoch empire. Politicians repeatedly mentioned 38 Degrees by name as they discussed the Sky takeover in parliament. [2]
Murdoch's been trying to spread his fake news, bias and hate-filled stories across the UK for years. This is his second attempt at seizing control at Sky. [3] We’ve been fighting him every step of the way, but we know he's licking his wounds and plotting his next steps. Murdoch will be back, with his army of lobbyists and lawyers in a last-ditch effort to skew the investigation.
Murdoch's got deep pockets. But we've been able to take him head-on because by taking small actions together, we're more powerful than we would be alone.
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We'll see. I don't trust the Tories at all. They have deep pockets too, ones to be filled by people like Murdoch...
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Indeed! At the moment they are attacking everybody who can't fight back really hard, in a well tried and tested mode, already seen to be evil...
Foreigners, disabled, kids with developmental issues, minorities and the list goes on... Women, although a numerical majority but a political minority, are not getting their fair share of the cake either...
Oh, well... No group is entirely guilt-free when it comes to electing those barbarians, gender, class or otherwise...
The only minority group that is faring well are the rich, even the foreigners... Shock, horror!!! 
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I know it all very well, I'm one of those foreigners.
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Oh, you is a rich bugger, eh gov? 
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If only that was true, I wouldn't care and give them all "the bird".
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New developments(s): https://www.theguard...EMCNEWEML6619I2
"Fox and Disney: is Rupert Murdoch in retreat - or planning his next move?
With Disney apparently poised to take over key Fox assets, it seems as though the Murdoch family is ceding control of its empire. What’s behind the move?"
However... hmmm... he is staying in publishing, dammit!!!
Edited by gorski, 10 December 2017 - 12:25.
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