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[ArloG]

Hello. New user here.
I've just flashed my H7.AC with the latest stable version.
The remote control has been selected from the list of choices.
Key mapping is defective. Compared to out-of-box I cannot choose channel up/down with the 4 way button when in epg. Left/right changes time periods. Same for <PREV NEXT> button.
When the actual CH PAGE button is pressed,bouquets cycles.
I'm sure there are other glitches in the remote mapping but for now I have to flash back to the factory image.
I'll give it another try when developers can fix this.
It looks like a cool build though!
 

[WanWizard]

You didn't restore some sort of config?

 

What is your definition of "in the epg"? The matrix screen (with channels against time)? Or the current bouquet list (which opens with up or down when you watch TV)?

[Pr2]

List of remote control choice during installation?
I don't remember having to select the RCU when installing my Zgemma H7.

Are you sure that you are using an OpenPLi image?

[ArloG]

Absolutely using the latest OpenPLi image.
That may be a hint. I did restore what I thought were my previous openatv channel scans.
Did that using Dreamset
Guess that may have borked things up?

I was biting my nails and flashed openatv 6.2. It was indicated for an H7 and not an H7.AC
It's working. Any enlightenment on the version differences if any?

I'll do some fast reading to see how I can do a system backup of 6.2 and reflash the OpenPLi image .

While I'm here is anyone having an issue where signal finder is glitchy?
As in when setting up to scan a known tp on a given sat I'm trying to find with my dish mover, there will be no signal until I alternate the transponder setting or dvb/dvb-s toggles.
So I've calculated how many actuator counts equates to how many degrees and am finding sats that way.

[WanWizard]

No, afaik Dreamset doesn't restore configuration settings.

 

I'm still sort of in the dark about what your problem is, can you answer my second question please? 

[ArloG]

No, afaik Dreamset doesn't restore configuration settings.

 

I'm still sort of in the dark about what your problem is, can you answer my second question please? 

openpli-6.2-release-h7-20180924_usb
I just reflashed it and went through the setup wizard.
Setup to scan 127 W. That went well.
Once scanned I press the epg button.
I see my scanned channels.

I use the arrow up/down key. Nothing. Unlike on openatv. (was running ver 6.1 out of box and was on 6.2 after the openpli-6.2-release-h7-20180924_usb flash did not work so well.
 

Pressing left/right arrows and CH PAGE button cycles through different time period slots. Openatv would do as expected.
( <PREV NEXT> went through boquets and channel up/down goes through channels)

When in epg and pressing CH PAGE up/down button I get a list of channels popping up.
Then pressing the arrow up/down button scrolls as expected through channels.
If I land on for example Reelz Channel and press the OK button, it takesme back to the epg screen. And that goes to the first channel.
Reelz will not show in the background. SO, I cannot change or select or watch any channels.
Bummer!

I even went into the setup menu afterwards to setup>system>expert settings>input devices>configure remote control type and chose the correct setting for the H7. Still the remote wont play nice with the receiver.

Guys. What version are you using on your H7 receivers? This version obviously has at least remote control glitches.
I'd really like to try openpli. If you say it works, it works!

[ArloG]

OK.Something is screwy. Just flashed openpli-6.1-release-h7-20180507_usb and the same thing. I'm stumped.
Only thing I can add is once I got to the setup wizard I read to turn off the receiver power and pull the USB stick.
Something about the receiver would start writing files to it and render it useless. Is that my mistake?
Would files to set it up still be pulling from the usb drive?

[WanWizard]

There is only one current version, which is the one you flashed.

 

You still haven't asnwered my question though. What exactly opens when you press the epg button, and what do you see? Because that differs from box to box, and what button you have available on your remote (I don't have an H7). Can you make a screenshot and attach that here (use the "More Options" button next to the "Post" button) we we know what you are looking at?

[ArloG]

There is only one current version, which is the one you flashed.

 

You still haven't asnwered my question though. What exactly opens when you press the epg button, and what do you see? Because that differs from box to box, and what button you have available on your remote (I don't have an H7). Can you make a screenshot and attach that here (use the "More Options" button next to the "Post" button) we we know what you are looking at?

I haven't actually learned how to get a screenshot just yet short of snapping one with my camera.
On the Zgemma the red button does nothing. But there is an epg button.
When pressing the epg button I get an epg as normal. Channels on the left and time slots across the rest of the screen.
I see channels and press the down arrow on the 4 way. Nothing happens at all.
I can press the CH PAGE button and get a text list of channels with what would be the current channel in a box on the left of the screen.
I can use the up/down on the 4 way to scroll channels available.
So, lets say I scroll to channel 6 Reelz Channel. Then press OK on the 4 way.  It takes me back to the epg and Reelz is on the left.
If I then press the OK button, nothing happens.
The red button on the epg is indicated as Zap. I press it and the first channel on the epg highlights. It's scrambled so I cannot tell if it actually is tuned to that channel.

But. the 4 way up/down does nothing at all. Left/right changes time slots with a red vertical line.
CH Page button toggles the text list and channel preview screen.

Perhaps posting a YouTube video showing what is happening would be easier.

In the meantime I reflashed pli 6.1. Internal HDD unplugged. And the USB stick left in until the wizard was finished.
I have gotten a few crashes too. Trying to find the logfile location. I think this is it.

I have no idea what is going on. The remote simply is not mapped correctly in openpli because it works perfectly in openatv. Guess until there is a fix I'm going to miss out on the plugins I'm looking for to watch tv and learn.

Thanks for your patience.

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[WanWizard]

Ok, so you see the matrix (GMEPG or GraphicMultiEPG).

 

Is it empty, or do you have EPG data? I think the default is to skip channels with no EPG, which is a pain if there is no EPG at all, as you can't navigate. You can change that in the EPG settings, press "menu" while in the EPG.

 

BTW, zapping is a lot quicker by not using the EPG, but just press up or down, which opens the current bouquet channel list.

 

You can't compare the way OpenATV works with the way OpenPLi works, for the same reason you can't compare a Mercedes to a Toyota. They're both cars, but that's it.

[Pr2]

To take screenshot, you need to know the IP address of your receiver.

 

Then simply connect to this IP address from your favorite webbrowser you will access the OpenWebif.

On the left side you will have a small remote control below it you will see: Grab screen.

Click on it.

 

Press the key that you want on your RCU, select the high quality checkbox then press the refresh button.

Once done, simply perform a right click on the image and select save picture as...

 

You have taken a screenshot of your screen.

 

If you want to publish here, press the More Reply Options and upload the image.

 

Pr2 

[ArloG]

I could spend alot of time here but I posted 2 youtube videos showing what I'm getting. One with OpenATV 6.2 and the other with OpenPLI 6.2.

The results for the remote are the same with version 6.1





Thanks for jumping in to help guys. My first 'tube post so I hope it explains alot.

[ArloG]

Ok, so you see the matrix (GMEPG or GraphicMultiEPG).

 

Is it empty, or do you have EPG data? I think the default is to skip channels with no EPG, which is a pain if there is no EPG at all, as you can't navigate. You can change that in the EPG settings, press "menu" while in the EPG.

 

BTW, zapping is a lot quicker by not using the EPG, but just press up or down, which opens the current bouquet channel list.

 

You can't compare the way OpenATV works with the way OpenPLi works, for the same reason you can't compare a Mercedes to a Toyota. They're both cars, but that's it.

I understand but also every car has a turn signal. And a horn button. Not that people choose to use them. Lol!
A TV and most every sat receiver I've ever used have remote controls that let you access an epg and switch channels in much the same way.
If OpenATV says go up a channel then it should. And it does. If I want to cycle boquets (what a wierd term) then it will.
OpenPLI doesn't on this receiver.
I'm not here to argue. But the remote mapping is just not right. I have 2 fta receivers and the zgemma, a Logitech Harmony Ultimate and several TV's.
Remotes work pretty much the same. Channel up/down. epg up/down. Time slot right/left. OK or Enter to accept.
The menu's work perfectly. I didn't even have to take a college course for that.

[WanWizard]

As I wrote before, you don't have any EPG data. And the default is "skip channels without EPG". Which is why up and down doesn't work, there is nothing to go to. So press EPG, press Menu, and change that setting. Or get some EPG data somewhere.

 

Alternatively, zap like everyone else, just use the arrow buttons, without going into the EPG (which you don't have anyway).

[WanWizard]

My point about the cars was:

 

if with one brand the third button from the right of the center console switches on the lights, and with another brand that doesn't happen. don't start complaining with that brand, but figure out what button you do need to use.

[ArloG]

My point about the cars was:

 

if with one brand the third button from the right of the center console switches on the lights, and with another brand that doesn't happen. don't start complaining with that brand, but figure out what button you do need to use.

I would thing the dev's would make the transition from one build, or "flavor" of OS for these boxes as painless as possible. Seriously.
Most who open the box and use their sat receivers want to scan in channels and watch what they've scanned. And see if they did it right.
I'll almost bet that most people don't even get a populated epg at all until they figure out how to get one.
As for the zap thing. Believe me. The arrows do nothing at all. No channel change at all. If the secret is in the settings, a part of setup should ask if you wish to do those things or not.
I'm not a guru and a wizard to help with the magic would be handy.
But what about the girl I knew who was sitting in the drivers seat of her son's car scouling and said it wouldn't go into drive?
And when I told her to put her foot on the brake pedal. Click, Click, Click into drive and off she flew.

Let's see who puts Compiz on these boxes first. If they already haven't. Frkikin' no epg, no remote control working anyways...
What's up with that?


WILSONNNNNNN !!!!

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[ims]

my question is,  why wants somebody using "wrong" car if he has better and perfect yet

[Pr2]

Hi,

 

When you purchase something new you need to learn how to use it.  People don't use EPG to zap they use the channel list.

So press the up or down arrow around the OK button of your RCU and you will get the channel list there you can zap like you want.

If you already have EPG data it will also be displayed there.

 

If you are misusing the receiver please don't blame it. When the EPG is used: to perform a scheduling or check the EPG at the very specific time.

So if you don't have EPG available why do you want to use it for zapping?  Moreover take the habit to press the Menu button it is like a right mouse click.

 

If you don't want to use a free STB, with lot of possibilities then purchase the official one of your provider so you will have the default channel list and the EPG provided by it.

 

Pr2

[WanWizard]

I would thing the dev's would make the transition from one build, or "flavor" of OS for these boxes as painless as possible. Seriously.

 

It is a common misperception that all images are the same. Which is not true, There are plenty of images out there that only do what we call "Window dressing". They use someone else's image (usually OE-A based, or in case of OpenVIX VU+ based), and modify the GUI. Some are based on OpenPLi, but we aren't based on anything.

 

In your OS analogy, Linux, Mac OS and Windows are very different, even though they all (can) run on the same hardware.

[ArloG]

To all who have helped. If this software is indeed a ground up build and you stand by it, I salute you.
I certainly am not abusing my receiver. Basics of operation should all be at least the same.
I did find the settings to not skip channels with no epg.
I have an HD Homerun device connected to my cable. It is ClearQAM 256. It has no populated epg nor channel identification. As those datastreams are provided for the provider's own boxes.
Mediaportal doesn't care about the lack of info. And EPG Buddy gives me all of the epg info I need. A bit of learning yes. But not enough to throw in the towel.

I tried this flavor of Linux. Sadly, it needs a user interface that is indeed basic to any user.
Simple things like cycling channels and pressing an OK button to view them is basic to any piece of visual equipment.
Perhaps this is the European way.
Basics of computers are to select and press the enter button or left mouse button. Every television in every store has a remote control. Use is the same.

I wanted to try OpenPLI for the decoding plugins. Some are even built in. The GUI during initial setup and navigating through the menus are basic and easy.
The rest is difficult or not working. I believe the latter is the case here.
For now it's back to what Linux flavor was in the Zgemma from the factory.
Please forward this to developers.