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[ims]

Huh ? May be - better for You will be not using e2 boxes...

Excuse me, it seems that You do not know what You are doing, but in addition, You do not  know what You want to do.

Edited by ims, 30 September 2018 - 07:38.

[Pr2]

I totally agree with IMS you don't want to use OpenPLi (or any E2 boxes) like they are supposed to be.

So please use another image than OpenPLi.

 

And something that you don't understand neither is that OpenPLi is the lightest image on the market without too many pre-installed plugins.

For the "decoders" you can install them on any image you want, OpenPLi has no problem to provide them in there feeds, other image prefere to "hide" them in a package that you can find on there respective forums to "enable" the "decoders".

 

And you can zap from the EPG with the red button (or with OK button if you configure it to do so) but you are not decide to use the channel list in which you also have the EPG for the channels displayed.

 

So you really understand nothing about E2 based system philosophy.

 

Anyway, OpenPLi is OpenSource so please feel free to fork it change the name (you need to change name and logos) and create your own image.

Edited by Pr2, 1 October 2018 - 19:15.

[ArloG]

There are no previous scans to clear out in: Menu>Setup>Service searching>Automatic scan. Maybe explain a bit better what you are trying to do or what you are trying to clear or delete.

When you start out. First scan. You have the list in Automatic scan to:
Clear before scan  yes
Network scan         yes
Scan tuner A (with your  selected scan)    yes
Scan tuner B (If you have one....I do)        yes
Scan tuner C (with the tuner configuration for cable or OTA)   yes

Every time you setup to scan a different sat, you get an extra line of the previous scans. And of course you select no.
And so on, and so on.
I've scanned 13 sats so far and the list is cluttered with yes, yes, no, no ,no,no.....etc.
So my intention is to get rid of all of the scans in the list already performed but the one I'm currently performing.
To keep the list nice and neat.

[el bandido]

Automatic scan does not work well for North America, but it can be used. It is much easier and neater to use manual scan and select single satellite for type of scan.

Network scan is another item that does not work on North American fta satellites, so it should be set to No. It does not hurt to have this setting set to yes, but the scan will take longer and will get the same results as when Network scan is set to no.

Having a decent satellites.xml file is the key to getting good results with enigma2 receivers without blindscan. There has been a extremely large 13MB satellites.xml file that has been loaded in Zgemma H7 receivers that are sold in North America. This large satellite file is supposed to give or provide a software blindscan, but instead it makes a royal mess and ends up confusing everyone.

So the simple thing to do is:
Make scans for satellite channels using manual scan set to single satellite.
Install a good satellites.xml file.
Set a button on the remote control using Hotkey and set ONE remote key (I use green button) to select the channel list for the satellite you are currently on, and to select a list of satellites if you wish to change to a different satellite.
Set the remote control buttons to neutrino as explained earlier.



 

Edited by el bandido, 30 September 2018 - 16:54.

[mjray]

3 things certain:
The gas pedal, clutch, and brake are always in the same spot. Right or left hand drive. And so I believe the turn signal is too.
Any vehicle with Lucas Electrics will leave you stranded.

Nope. The clutch pedal is sometimes completely absent and the turn signals are on the other side stick in some. And my bike with Lucas electrics never stranded me.

[ArloG]

 

3 things certain:
The gas pedal, clutch, and brake are always in the same spot. Right or left hand drive. And so I believe the turn signal is too.
Any vehicle with Lucas Electrics will leave you stranded.

Nope. The clutch pedal is sometimes completely absent and the turn signals are on the other side stick in some. And my bike with Lucas electrics never stranded me.

 

Guess I was thinking jag-ya-wer's (as the brits say...sorta like al-loo-min-eee-yum) and mg's and triumphs.
You have to signal your turn. Mental telepathy don't work too well.
As far as anything else. Real men drive a stick!
Kind of like the girl once who asked me is she could drive my car.
"Can you drive a stick?"
Her: "Pffft....(cocks her head and smirks) I'm 'Panish!"

[mjray]

 

Guess I was thinking jag-ya-wer's (as the brits say...sorta like al-loo-min-eee-yum) and mg's and triumphs.

I'm sure someone who knows the history better will tell me, but Jags (said djag-you-are, please), MGs and Triumphs were once all part of British Leyland and the consistency between them might have started there.

You have to signal your turn. Mental telepathy don't work too well.

Oh it's endlessly entertaining driving something with the turn signals on the opposite stalk to your usual and unexpectedly starting the windscreen wipers as you approach a junction. It really teaches you to signal early, to give you time to recover and wash the damn window clean of the bugs you just smeared over it.

As far as anything else. Real men drive a stick!

Yeah, but 4, 5 or 6 gears? And is reverse below 5th, right of it, or left of 1st and do you need to push the stick down or lift a collar to access it? The more I think about it, the better the car-driving analogy is: the various enigma-based interfaces are all similar but different in that way. And real men/women/mammals drive an OpenPLi!

[ArloG]

This finalizes it.
I have openatv 6.2 configured with 13 sats scanned in so far and 'bouquet' lists named for the sat and position.
So far. With lamedb and xml files backed up.
Full backup on a 1tb drive I added to the box.

Then I flashed a backup of PLI and went through the setup wizard. Then to save time restored my previous atv work with Dreamset. Configured diseqc 1.2 for my ASC1 to move the dish.

I had my girlfriend eager to try the new box out. It's been about a week. We had a few friends stop by. They're 'geeky' like me and love new toys.

She used the box with atv on it. I asked her and our friend to see if it was easy to use. Of course a learning curve is needed.
They love it. The dish had set since the GI 920 VCII RS went obsolete.
We've been using FTA for a few years. And cable, Roku.
The Zgemma with OpenATV is easy and intuitive to use and very similar in operation to FTA satellite receivers we have and TV in terms of the remotes. Everything just makes sense.

I went through and figured out what every GUI menu did and changed for operation of the box using OpenPLI.
Something we did not have to do in excess with OpenATV.
I would akin it to a person who spoke American English understanding Canadian, British, Australian, and other dialects very easily. Sony, Dreamlink, Linkbox, Sanyo, Samsung (my friends have the Sanyo) are very similar in operation.
Then, It was like trying to understand Russian when using OpenPLI. Would vodka have helped?

So now it's not me against the world. I asked 3 other people of their opinion.
Nobody wanted to write a cheat-sheet on how to use the Zgemma with OpenPLI.

I also read for the location of and found the keymap. Compared it with pli. And opened and extracted a VU+ image of ATV.

Why is pli so different? I copied and pasted a few sections of the atv keymap file into pli.
Immediately things made more sense using OpenPLI.
Bouquets in EPG  were missing, or not so apparent or 'in your face' as they are in atv.
And you are forever moving your fingers all over the remote control to do the most simple things with pli.

Using different EMU's was the reason I really wanted to try OpenPLI. 3 other people gave it a try while I left and went for a pack of smokes. My girlfriend said when I came back. "Take it off". Unfortunately it wasn't her....you know!

I don't speak Deutch. So I'm hoping this post had made sense to members with an open mind.
We can compare and argue cars anyway we want to. There will be those who hold fast to OpenPLI. And I wish my experience with it resulted in smiles and sighs of relief. Unfortunately, not.
Try OpenATV on a Zgemma. Take a look at the keymapping files for both OS's.
It's obvious the dev's did not have an actual H7 in their possession to model the software configurations for.
I know a few people out there who have the cold water on the left and the hot on the right.
You get it.

[Pr2]

Thanks for this good news!