Yep indeed and I do not see how... + the dvb subs that stay on screen also ‘suck’...
OpenPLi 7.1 Release Candidate
Started by WanWizard, 15 May 2019 10:48
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Re: OpenPLi 7.1 Release Candidate #181
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Posted 20 June 2019 - 16:54
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Re: OpenPLi 7.1 Release Candidate #182
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Posted 21 June 2019 - 13:19
... + the dvb subs that stay on screen also ‘suck’...
Indeed!
Re: OpenPLi 7.1 Release Candidate #183
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Posted 21 June 2019 - 15:54
If it is to stay in, it should at least be configurable to the user. But even better choose the correct mode automatically (which is quite hard, I think).
I'm lucky most channels I watch feature teletext subtitling, which is so much better.
Edited by Erik Slagter, 21 June 2019 - 15:54.
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Re: OpenPLi 7.1 Release Candidate #184
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Posted 21 June 2019 - 19:13
If it is to stay in, it should at least be configurable to the user. But even better choose the correct mode automatically (which is quite hard, I think).
I'm lucky most channels I watch feature teletext subtitling, which is so much better.
I am lucky too to find an image that shows subtitles without problems. Still eagerly waiting for working OpenPli 7.1. Is it not possible to copy it from 7.0? Or VU+ original?
Re: OpenPLi 7.1 Release Candidate #185
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Posted 21 June 2019 - 20:07
If it is to stay in, it should at least be configurable to the user. But even better choose the correct mode automatically (which is quite hard, I think).
I'm lucky most channels I watch feature teletext subtitling, which is so much better.
On NRK 1/2/3 the original subs are MUCH better than the teletext-subs.
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Re: OpenPLi 7.1 Release Candidate #186
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Posted 21 June 2019 - 20:17
You mean they have a different source and the text is not the same?
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Re: OpenPLi 7.1 Release Candidate #187
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Posted 21 June 2019 - 20:56
You mean they have a different source and the text is not the same?
Source I don't know, but the original text is much better for the eyes than the one from teletext. It's like the ttv-text is old SD and the original text is 4K.
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Re: OpenPLi 7.1 Release Candidate #188
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Posted 21 June 2019 - 21:43
That is odd, because TXT subtitles are broadcast as text, not as bitmaps, and are rendered by Enigma. Which should be a sharp as the other text in the GUI.
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Re: OpenPLi 7.1 Release Candidate #189
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Posted 22 June 2019 - 08:53
Exactly. If the graphic DVB subtitles are better than the teletext subtitles, you're definitely doing something wrong, because the teletext subtitles are rendered in maximum resolution and anti-aliasing.
Don't use the teletext button to enable them, instead go to audio, then subtitles and there choose "txt" subtitles.
Edited by Erik Slagter, 22 June 2019 - 08:53.
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Re: OpenPLi 7.1 Release Candidate #190
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Posted 22 June 2019 - 09:06
Maybe watch teletext subs with tuxtxt... instead of enigma2?
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Re: OpenPLi 7.1 Release Candidate #191
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Posted 22 June 2019 - 10:35
There is a new OpenPli 7.1 image 20190622. Now DVB-subtitles work correctly.
Very fine, thank you.
Re: OpenPLi 7.1 Release Candidate #192
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Posted 22 June 2019 - 13:17
There is a new OpenPli 7.1 image 20190622. Now DVB-subtitles work correctly.
Very fine, thank you.
Not for 4K Solo?
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Re: OpenPLi 7.1 Release Candidate #193
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Posted 22 June 2019 - 13:21
Exactly. If the graphic DVB subtitles are better than the teletext subtitles, you're definitely doing something wrong, because the teletext subtitles are rendered in maximum resolution and anti-aliasing.
Don't use the teletext button to enable them, instead go to audio, then subtitles and there choose "txt" subtitles.
I have used Linuxtuners almost since day 1. Never touched anything how subs are shown. But as I saw this in 7.1, I saw imediately that the subs on NRK-channels subs was much simpler than normal. But, off course, maybe someone prefer it like that.
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Re: OpenPLi 7.1 Release Candidate #194
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Posted 22 June 2019 - 13:39
Two screenshots of the same service (BBC One), with teletext subtitling and dvb graphic subtitling. Guess which is which. I know which one I prefer...
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Re: OpenPLi 7.1 Release Candidate #195
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Posted 22 June 2019 - 13:47
There is a new OpenPli 7.1 image 20190622. Now DVB-subtitles work correctly.
Very fine, thank you.
Not for 4K Solo?
The patch was reverted, as it fixed one issue, but broke another.
Currently in use: VU+ Duo 4K (2xFBC S2), VU+ Solo 4K (1xFBC S2), uClan Usytm 4K Ultimate (S2+T2), Octagon SF8008 (S2+T2), Zgemma H9.2H (S2+T2)
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Re: OpenPLi 7.1 Release Candidate #196
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Posted 22 June 2019 - 14:02
Try teletext subtitling works very good.
Re: OpenPLi 7.1 Release Candidate #197
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Posted 22 June 2019 - 14:56
Two screenshots of the same service (BBC One), with teletext subtitling and dvb graphic subtitling. Guess which is which. I know which one I prefer...
I only know for NRK.
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Re: OpenPLi 7.1 Release Candidate #198
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Posted 22 June 2019 - 15:28
I am getting this issue on Vu Zero 4K after upgrading via opkg (I am on the stable channel, so this was while going from 7.0 to 7.1):
root@vuzero4k:~# opkg upgrade Installing fakelocale (1.0) on root Collected errors: * get_pkg_url: Package fakelocale is not available from any configured src. * opkg_install_pkg: Failed to download fakelocale. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'?
Unlike suggested, there is no lack of an opkg update before running the command.
Re: OpenPLi 7.1 Release Candidate #199
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Posted 22 June 2019 - 16:48
It is available on the servers, so maybe one of the download mirrors is out of sync.
btw, it is not advisable to do updates from the commandline. opkg doesn't have any inter-package dependency handling, causing complete mayhem if there are system package updates available (usually the case with a version update).
edit: I see no attempts to download it on any of the mirrors, so it doesn't even get that far. Local package index corrupt?
Edited by WanWizard, 22 June 2019 - 16:51.
Currently in use: VU+ Duo 4K (2xFBC S2), VU+ Solo 4K (1xFBC S2), uClan Usytm 4K Ultimate (S2+T2), Octagon SF8008 (S2+T2), Zgemma H9.2H (S2+T2)
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Re: OpenPLi 7.1 Release Candidate #200
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Posted 23 June 2019 - 11:48
@WanWizard Thank you for your time, after cleaning the index and using force-reinstall the issue was solved.
opkg install fakelocale --force-reinstall
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