36 replies to this topic

[samsamsam]

I am still waiting for moderators/administrators reaction...

[Frenske]

@samsamsam.
As far as I’m concerned you’ll have to wait until your weight is an ounce. This is the translation of a Dutch expression.
AFAIK we requested several times to show any prove of the fact that the license isn’t respected but so far no prove whatsoever.
I can’t judge nor feel like investigating whether he does or does not respect your license. As far as I am concerned the both of will have to fight that out via PM and NOT on our forum. This is the last time I do this request.

[samsamsam]

I provide you link to original code.

I provide you link to license.

What more proof @Frenske do you need?

[WanWizard]

@samsamsam,

 

I'm getting very tired of this repeated discussion.

 

Person A claims his code is used without permission, person B denies and/or doesn't respond to allegations.

 

We. as owner of the OpenPLi project, are responsible for what goes into the image, and as we are committed to open source and adherance to licencing, we err on the side of caution when it comes to licenced code. 

Which is one of the reasons why TSMedia is not available in OpenPLi. That won't stop people talking about it, and it won't stop people using it.

 

We, as owner of this forum, are not the copyright police. It is not our job to determine whether A or B is right. It is not our job to prosecute or punish A or B.

We are no party in this dispute, and we don't want to be. Besides that, there is nothing we can do, we can ban people, we can remove posts, we can remove texts from posts, it all won't solve your problem, you've just made your problem our problem.  Which is something we won't accept.

[littlesat]

@samsamsam

 

Can you please translate this..

 

https://gitlab.com/e...nd license.info

 

I cannot read it...

 

Modelled on SHOUTcast plugin and sd-xbmc.org project 

Main developer, architect, coordinator: 
- @samsamsam
Developers: 
- @j00zek, 
- @mamrot, 
- @MarcinO, 
- @skalita, 
- @atilaks, 
- @huball, 
- @matzg
- @tomashj291
- @a4tech
Testers:
- ??
Webpages:
- http://iptvplayer.vline.pl/
- http://www.iptvplayer.gitlab.io/

Plugin E2iPlayer może być modyfikowany przez każdego.
Autor każdej modyfikacji zobowiązany jest do wysłania, z potwierdzeniem odbioru, szczegółowego opsu modyfikacji w raz z jej kodem źródłowym na adres e-mail: samsamsam@o2.pl.

Każdy ma prawo do dekomilacji kodu pluginu E2iPlayer w przypadku, gdy został on opublikowany bez źródeł.

W przypadku dystrybucji Enigmy2 zawierających preinstalowany plugin E2iPlayer, bądź umożliwiających jego instalację lub aktualizację, kod komponentów E2iPlayer 
w ramach dostarczanej wersji musi być identyczny z kodem z gównego repozytorium dostepnego pod adresem https://gitlab.com/iptvplayer-for-e2/iptvplayer-for-e2.
Zabrania się dostarczania niekompletnego kodu pluginu E2iPlayer bez uzyskania wcześniejszej zgody głównego dewelopera.
Jednocześnie zezwala się na rozpowszechnianie kodu pluginu w postaci prekompilowanych plików pyo.

Twórcy pluginu E2iPlayer nie ponoszą odpowiedzialności za szkody wynikłe z użytkowania pluginu E2iPlayer niezależnie od tego, w jaki sposób te szkody powstały i czego dotyczą.
Twórcy pluginu E2iPlayer nie ponoszą odpowiedzialności za niewłaściwe lub niezgodne z prawem danego kraju użycie pluginu E2iPlayer w tym za nielegalne pobierania materiałów wideo z wykorzystaniem pluginu E2iPlayer. 

Plugin E2iPlayer należy traktować jako przeglądarkę treści dostępnych w sieci Internet dlatego Twórcy pluginu E2iPlayer nie mogą i nie ponoszą odpowiedzialności za treści do których użytkownik uzyskuje dostęp z wykorzystaniem 
pluginu E2iPlayer.

Plugin E2iPlayer obsługuje funckję logowania się do niektórych serwisów wymagających kont premium.
Jednakże Twórcy pluginu nie zajmują się sprzedażą takich kont.

Edited by littlesat, 22 September 2019 - 21:32.

[samsamsam]

@samsamsam,

 

I'm getting very tired of this repeated discussion.

 

Person A claims his code is used without permission, person B denies and/or doesn't respond to allegations.

 

We. as owner of the OpenPLi project, are responsible for what goes into the image, and as we are committed to open source and adherance to licencing, we err on the side of caution when it comes to licenced code. 

Which is one of the reasons why TSMedia is not available in OpenPLi. That won't stop people talking about it, and it won't stop people using it.

 

We, as owner of this forum, are not the copyright police. It is not our job to determine whether A or B is right. It is not our job to prosecute or punish A or B.

We are no party in this dispute, and we don't want to be. Besides that, there is nothing we can do, we can ban people, we can remove posts, we can remove texts from posts, it all won't solve your problem, you've just made your problem our problem.  Which is something we won't accept.

 

You are responsible for the content shared on your forum. I am reporting that you are sharing code which breake the rules.

You are accepting this and try to make my and you try to blame me? May I know for what?

[samsamsam]

@littlesat

 

The most important part:

 

"Autor każdej modyfikacji zobowiązany jest do wysłania, z potwierdzeniem odbioru, szczegółowego opsu modyfikacji w raz z jej kodem źródłowym na adres e-mail: samsamsam@o2.pl."

 

"Anyone is allowed to modify plugin E2iPlayer but each change need to be confirmed via email samsamsam@o2.pl"

 

and another important part:

"Zabrania się dostarczania niekompletnego kodu pluginu E2iPlayer bez uzyskania wcześniejszej zgody głównego dewelopera."

"It is prohibited to share only part of plugin code unless you will get agreement of main developer"

 

 

Main developer, architect, coordinator:

 

- @samsamsam

 

Do you have any further question?

[samsamsam]

@WanWizard

 

You are distorting facts.

I am only asking you to compliance with the law and not allow to share on your platform illegal code nothing more.

 

copyright claim  - I call for compliance with the law - nothing special.

 

"We, as owner of this forum, are not the copyright police. It is not our job to determine whether A or B is right. It is not our job to prosecute or punish A or B."

 

You not need to do this. This is obvious who is author of the code. You exacly know this. 

 

If I will put here link to download of any commercial movie or game, then you will also answer same and leave it here?

No? This is hypocritical. I had some opinion about administrator of this forum and you only prove that this was correct.

 

@Frenske

You wrote "AFAIK we requested several times to show any prove of the fact that the license isn’t respected but so far no prove whatsoever."

Where there is such request? This is NOT true.

 

What exactly proof do you need? What kind of proof will be enough for you?

[vasilich07]

[quote name="mfaraj57" post="1105413" timestamp="1569168619"]


the plugin updated,hope all fixed now --== LINK REMOVED DUE TO LICENCE LIMITATIONS FROM SAMSAMSAM ==-- on the openpli-develop, everything works fine.
Thanks for your wrok

[littlesat]

@samsamsam

Maybe it helps when you start to post your licence limitations in English so the whole world could read it.

[blzr]

 

@samsamsam

 

Can you please translate this..

 

https://gitlab.com/e...nd license.info

 

I cannot read it...

 

here you go:

 

Modelled on SHOUTcast plugin and sd-xbmc.org project

Main developer, architect, coordinator:
- @samsamsamsam
Developers:
- @j00zek,
- @mrot,
- @Marcino
- @scalita,
- @atilaks,
- @huball,
- @matzg
- @tomashj291
- @a4tech
Testers:
- ??
Webpages:
- http://iptvplayer.vline.pl/
- http://www.iptvplayer.gitlab.io/

The E2iPlayer plugin can be modified by anyone.
The author of each modification is obliged to send, with confirmation of receipt, a detailed description of the modification together with its source code to the e-mail address: samsamsam@o2.pl.

Everyone has the right to decompile the E2iPlayer plugin code if it has been published without sources.

In the case of Enigmy2 distribution containing the preinstalled E2iPlayer plugin or enabling its installation or update, the E2iPlayer component code
must be identical to the code from the main repository available at https://gitlab.com/iptvplayer-for-e2/iptvplayer-for-e2 as part of the supplied version.
It is forbidden to provide incomplete E2iPlayer plug-in code without prior permission from the main developer.
At the same time it is allowed to distribute the plugin code in the form of pre-compiled pyo files.

The E2iPlayer plugin developers are not liable for damages resulting from the use of the E2iPlayer plugin regardless of how such damages were caused and what they relate to.
Developers of the E2iPlayer plugin are not responsible for improper or illegal use of the E2iPlayer plugin, including illegal downloads of video materials using the E2iPlayer plugin.

The E2iPlayer plugin should be treated as a browser of content available on the Internet, therefore the Creators of the E2iPlayer plugin cannot and do not take responsibility for the content to which the user accesses through the use of
E2iPlayer plugin.

The E2iPlayer plugin supports logging in to some services that require premium accounts.
However, Developers do not sell such accounts.

 

--

btw. not sure what "modelled on" is supposed to mean, in earlier versions it was simply "based"...

AFAIK sd-xbmc is GPL 2.0 licensed,

and Shoutcast CC3.0 / dmm licensed (?)

[mfaraj57]

Because he is paranoid and suspicious he expected i stole his code without looking to my code,i do not have to prove that because he claimed that and he should prove it and not just talking about licence.
anyone looks to my code and hist code he will know that he claims are just rubbish and no need for all these discussion here.
for sake of other peoples i  put photo for first 10 lines of main class from my code and his code,anyone interested more both files are available.
 
  
my code

 
 
 
his code
 


although i didnot use his code in this module and i got his permission to do what i want this is google translate for his licence
 

Everyone has the right to de-code the E2iPlayer plug-in code if it has been published without sources.

The author of each modification is obliged to send, with confirmation of receipt, a detailed description of the modification together with its source code to the e-mail address: samsamsam@o2.pl.





For Enigmy2 distributions that contain the pre-installed E2iPlayer plug-in, or allow it to be installed or updated, the E2iPlayer component code
as part of the delivered version must be identical to the code from the main repository available at https://gitlab.com/iptvplayer-for-e2/iptvplayer-for-e2.
It is prohibited to provide incomplete E2iPlayer plug-in code without obtaining the prior permission of the main developer.
At the same time, it is allowed to distribute the plugin code in the form of precompiled pyo files.

The creators of the E2iPlayer plug-in are not responsible for damages resulting from the use of the E2iPlayer plug-in, regardless of how these damages arose and what they relate to.
The creators of the E2iPlayer plug-in are not responsible for the improper or illegal use of the E2iPlayer plug-in, including the illegal downloading of video content using the E2iPlayer plug-in.

The E2iPlayer plugin should be treated as a content browser available on the Internet, therefore the creators of the E2iPlayer plugin cannot and are not responsible for the content to which the user accesses using
E2iPlayer plugin.

The E2iPlayer plugin supports logging in to some websites that require premium accounts.
However, the creators of the plugin do not sell such accounts.

 

 

The author of each modification is obliged to send, with confirmation of receipt, a detailed description of the modification together with its source code to the e-mail address: samsamsam@o2.pl.

 

This is what i did.

[mfaraj57]

from the licence

 

 

The E2iPlayer plugin should be treated as a browser of content available on the Internet, therefore the Creators of the E2iPlayer plugin cannot and do not take responsibility for the content to which the user accesses through the use of
E2iPlayer plugin.

This make me laughing.

This true if not e2iplayer shipped with more than 300 hundreds modules breaking the rules of the websites  and many are illegal

[Frenske]

@all involved.
As far as we are concerned you continue this discussion by PM. We do not want to be part of your ongoing discussion nor do we want to facilitate this debate. Have this discussion elsewhere and stop it on our forum. Period.
For now I removed all links.

@samsamsam,
 
I'm getting very tired of this repeated discussion.
 
Person A claims his code is used without permission, person B denies and/or doesn't respond to allegations.
 
We. as owner of the OpenPLi project, are responsible for what goes into the image, and as we are committed to open source and adherance to licencing, we err on the side of caution when it comes to licenced code. 
Which is one of the reasons why TSMedia is not available in OpenPLi. That won't stop people talking about it, and it won't stop people using it.
 
We, as owner of this forum, are not the copyright police. It is not our job to determine whether A or B is right. It is not our job to prosecute or punish A or B.
We are no party in this dispute, and we don't want to be. Besides that, there is nothing we can do, we can ban people, we can remove posts, we can remove texts from posts, it all won't solve your problem, you've just made your problem our problem.  Which is something we won't accept.

[mfaraj57]

Also i do not need to continue, as usual  he spoils the thread,you can close it also.

[mfaraj57]

I don't know. All I'm saying is that you two need to sort this out, we're stuck in the middle, we don't want to play the police man here, but we also don't want to condone illegal activities. 
 
As I'm an experienced developer myself, my 2cts:

• idea's can not be copyrighted
• (implementation of) design patterns can not be copyrighted
• generic code can not be copyrighted
• reverse engineered code does not violate a copyright

But blatently copying functional pieces of code clearly violates copyright. So I agree with you that the easiest way to settle this issue, is to clearly point out what code exactly is used without permission, and to show the copyright is duly owned.
 
And I am very away of the fact that other players violate rights as well, which is why we don't include those in our feeds either, and don't allow them to be downloadable/installable from our forum. What people do by themselfs, using Google or other forums, is their problem.

First i do not want to start the this discussion again but my words for respected moderates of second my favorite forum.
i committed exactly to what been been said by WanWizard exactly about copyright  in my tool about New virtual keyboard and i asked who removed the links read the my module first and if you find more than 20% similar lines do what you want,sure 20% lines similar not so much because we have a lot of similar import statements,in fact any two different plugins may have more than 20% similarities and similar target plugins may have up to 40 similarities in lines,my module  i am sure you will   find less than 20% similarities and you will not find single code line similar from more than 2000 lines a part from import statements like screen,messagebox and else.
so on what bases you removed my links?
i know you are not in side of samsamsam,sure not personally but because the most person causing troubles in the history of this forum and i admit that you want to avoid more troubles from him but not fair to take action against my side without clear evidence i did something wrong.
even without looking to the code do you think this is normal behavior from normal person closed his all projects and now going from forum to other forum  insulting peoples and accuses them and finally  you listen to him and believe him.
 
Finally as starter of thread please i asked to close this thread or to put my links again.

Edited by mfaraj57, 24 September 2019 - 06:46.

[Frenske]

As requested closed.