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#1 doglover

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Posted 6 October 2019 - 09:34

We are confronted these days with increasing amount of streaming services.

BBCi player, Netflix, VRT Nu, VTM go, NLziet, ITVplayer,  etc. etc.

 

All work on a phone, tablet or even on a PC.  However when you want to watch the stuff on your TV screen, there tons of hurdles to overcome.  Like using the provider own castrated hardware.  In several streaming services you can use Chromecast.  Which also has its problems, but at least it works most of the times.

 

I would like to see that these streaming providers could be watched on TV via our enigma2 receivers.

Some TV's have this already built in, but you are relying on the continued support of the manufacturer to keep this working.  This support is mostly 2 years after which updates seizes.

 

One solution would be to install a maintained browser on the enigma2 machines.  The modern 4K models have a processor which is fast enough to run a browser.

There is the OpenOpera for enigma2, but that is not maintained anymore, and consequently does not play most of the steaming stuff anymore.

So a version of Chrome or Firefox for enigma2 would be welcomed.

The problem of navigation with the remote control can be circumvented by added a wireless keyboard and mouse to the receiver.

However providing a enigma2 version of Chrome or Firefox is maybe asking too much.

 

Another solution is a plug-in in enigma2, which takes the role of Chromecast.  So you use your phone or tablet to select what you want to see.  And cast the stream to the Chromecast inside your enigma2 receiver, instead of a a real Chromecast.
This is probably not realistic, because you run into problems with DRM rights, which cannot easily be implemented.

 

As an alternative to Chromecast, maybe there can be looked at AnyCast/MiraCast which cast the screen of your phone or tablet to your receiver.  The advantage is, no problems with DRM rights.  These are handled by the app on phone/tablet.
The disadvantage is that phone/tablet has to remain powered up.  Pause the phone/tablet = no streaming.

 

Any further thoughts about this?

 

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Re: Streaming to an enigma2 receiver #2 betacentauri

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Posted 6 October 2019 - 09:59

Netflix content is DRM protected afaik. For Mipsel Boxes there is no solution at all. For ARM boxes there are libraries available, but then everything is decoded in software and so only latest boxes may can handle it. And then you only get SD quality. E2 can't handle that at the moment and would need a (major) change.

 

-> Playback of DRM protected streams will be a big problem on e2. I see no real good solution for it. Only the workaround with the lib which would show only show SD quality(if at all).

 

Chromecast maybe an option. I don't know it. But isn't the implementation a secret like for AirPlay?


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Re: Streaming to an enigma2 receiver #3 Erik Slagter

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Posted 6 October 2019 - 11:18

This is more generic. Content providers are actively preventing open environments from accessing their content. I think it's obvious why. In some cases this only means extra hurdles to take, in other cases it's plain impossible. It has little to do with the STB hardware or software (even though in some cases a hurdle can be an unsupported codec).


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Re: Streaming to an enigma2 receiver #4 doglover

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Posted 6 October 2019 - 15:33

This is more generic. Content providers are actively preventing open environments from accessing their content. I think it's obvious why. In some cases this only means extra hurdles to take, in other cases it's plain impossible. It has little to do with the STB hardware or software (even though in some cases a hurdle can be an unsupported codec).

 

You are trying to use it directly.  I propose not to bother to do that.

The open environment should not have to try to access it.

Let a full browser do it.  Or let you phone/tablet do it.  Just send the picture after it received all the necessary treatment to the receiver/TV.


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Re: Streaming to an enigma2 receiver #5 betacentauri

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Posted 6 October 2019 - 15:47

In normal case the DRM protected data will be processed in the hardware and from drivers which don’t allow to access the unencrypted data. The whole data flow is protected.
So you cannot send the picture data to the receiver as you don’t get it.

Full browser also use the from me mentioned lib. So only soft decoding with low quality. Or the box hardware and OS offer DRM framework to process such data. Eg Android offers such things.
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