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[abi211]

Hello,

 

In the last 3 months update releases and after updating my VU+DUO 4K box I see that my box is going slow comparing to previous versions.

 

When I switch channels it takes to much time to change to the other channel, and sometimes list of bouquets is freezing and it takes time (around 3-5 seconds) to have normal list of bouquets again.

 

I have flashed box with older version of OpenPli 7.2 (version from December 2019) and everything works perfectly.

 

Does anybody know what is the issue and how can I fix this?

 

Looking forward to your replies.

 

Regards,

Abi

[WanWizard]

lcd4linux installed?

[abi211]

yes, installed and disabled - I read somewhere in the forums that this solves the problem but did not solve my problem... I had to find older 7.2 version (from Dec 2019) and everything is OK. Now, I'm afraid to update my box due to above mentioned problems...

[WanWizard]

Disabled doesn't do it, you need to remove the plugin, and restart the box, to get completely rid of it.

[abi211]

this plugin, by default, is not installed in the box, so since it is not installed I have this problem o box being slow in the last updates, while when I put older version of 7.2 from December everything works fine.

 

With this older version, even if its installed there is no problem with the box. I see you have Duo4K too, you dont have these problems in latest versions of openpli?

 

Thanks

[WanWizard]

I don't, and I have never seen it since we removed lcd4linux from the image in 7.0-release.

 

Anything else installed that could slow down zapping? picons installed on a device that has slow access?

[abi211]

Yes, I usually install picons  snp-full.400x240-400x240  and currently have installed on older version of 7.2 -dec 2019 version 06.12.2019 release and I dont have any problem with zapping...at all, but I'm 100% sure if I update now box to latest version I will have problem with zapping... this is strange and I dont understand why?!

[WanWizard]

Neither do I.

[Erik Slagter]

I only know that I can't reproduce the lcd4linux issue on my duo4k, but I have a non-default config for it.

 

What do you call slow anyway? The duo4k has FBC tuners and they take more time to lock than conventional tuners. Also are you sure it's tuners to blame, or is the start of decryption slow?

[abi211]

Apart from Satellite list, I have installed also JediXtream plugin with 2 huge IPTV and the main problem is zapping, sometimes goes very slow...the small circle in the corner of the screen sometimes takes 3-4seconds until I got next chanel...also I have installed Cable TV operator and probably all this is slowing box on zapping part...

Regards,
Abi


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[Erik Slagter]

We do not support IPtv, especially if it's illegal.

Edited by Erik Slagter, 22 June 2020 - 16:37.

[Youto]

A late reaction about this issue. In an earlier topic on the dutch forum I had the same question. And also they came with the same solutions as mentioned here. But on the vu+ wiki I found that with the vti image there is a plugin called I think fcc, fast channel....., that plugin does very quick switching between the channels. I cannot found this plugin on open pli. Does this exist on pli? Or is it in a way possible the donwload this plugin at the vti image site and add it on the pli image. Or maybe using multiboot to get it somehow?

[WanWizard]

No. And it will never be inplemented, as it will kill smartcards with a SID limiter (like the M7 cards).

 

FCC basically pre-tunes using additional FBC tuners, so instead of only the channel you watch asking ECM's from the card, the next and the next channel will also do that. And on top of that also your recordings. With a limit of 4 channels, it is a disaster waiting to happen. So I suggest you don't use it.

 

There is a known issue with VU+ zapping  in combination with lcd4linux. If that is not installed, the Duo 4K isn't slow.

[Youto]

@wanwizard, okee understood. We had this discussion a while ago on the dutch forum. Then you also mensioned the lcd4linux solution. But I found after that topic the fcc solution and today I accedently read this topic here above and I thought, I can always ask it. But thanks for the clear explanation. 

[alias haha]

Delete that iptv plugin, and your box will be fast again, i had only installed a iptv plugin, and my box was acting weird, removed iptv plugin and everything was working as before

[Erik Slagter]

There is another reason why we don't have the FCC capability (it's not a plugin).

 

The interface to the low-level implementation (drivers...) is not at all clear to us and VU+ doesn't want to explain, so we wouldn't know where to start. The code in their own "enigma" could be used as a starting point, but in this case it's riddled all over the application and it's not clear why and how it works. Also the VU+ "enigma" application and ours has diverted in such a way that we cannot simply import the code in our version.

 

If anyone is able to supply me with workable information on this subject, I am very much considering implementation, if only for those who have a limitless card or are watching FTA only (like me, most of the time).

[abi211]

Hello Guys,

 

I just bought Zgemma H7s box and loaded exactly the same list that I have in Vu+ Duo 4K box, including all plugins and iptv and in Zgemma box I dont have problem like in Vu+ Duo 4k box...

 

Strange...box which costs 3 times more to not work properly, while Zgemma H7s doesn't have any problem...

 

Br, Abi

[WanWizard]

I can only repeat that my Duo 4K, which is my main watch-and-record box with 16 tuners (2 FBC S2 modules), I don't have any slowness problems, other than the 3 seconds the FBC tuners need to tune and sync. The H7 doesn't have FBC tuners, so it has less of a tuning delay.

 

I never have a freezing channel list.

 

What skin are you using? A skin with picons in the channel list by any chance, so they all need to be loaded when you open the list?

[abi211]

I can only repeat that my Duo 4K, which is my main watch-and-record box with 16 tuners (2 FBC S2 modules), I don't have any slowness problems, other than the 3 seconds the FBC tuners need to tune and sync. The H7 doesn't have FBC tuners, so it has less of a tuning delay.

 

I never have a freezing channel list.

 

What skin are you using? A skin with picons in the channel list by any chance, so they all need to be loaded when you open the list?

I'm using OpenPli 7.3 default skin, because I like it and I use picons snp-full 400x240-370x210light on transparent.

 

The main delay I have is that (sometime - not every time) when I push upper arrow in my remote and the list of channels within one bouquet loads - when I push the right arrow to go in the next page of channels, sometime box reacts with delay - about 3 sec delay...same things happen sometime when I change channels with arrows of remote left or right without loading the channel list... This is the only problem I have...

 

Br, Abi

Edited by Frenske, 12 September 2020 - 22:07.
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[WanWizard]

And do you use picons in the channel list? I don't, and don't have any delay at all when interacting with the channel list.