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[s3n0]

...in addition read here how to go into debug mode https://wiki.openpli...ebugging_Enigma

This page / URL has not worked for a long time ... unfortunately a redirect will be made to https://openpli.org/#Debugging_Enigma - unfortunately it does not exist and so only the OpenPLi homepage will appear.

 

[ccs]

.... works ok for me.

[WanWizard]

This page / URL has not worked for a long time ... unfortunately a redirect will be made to https://openpli.org/#Debugging_Enigma - unfortunately it does not exist and so only the OpenPLi homepage will appear.

 

There's a prompt at the top of the screen to accept our cookies. Once you've accepted, the wiki is accessible.
 

[s3n0]

Oh, thanks, OK, I understand now. Then there will be a problem with Mozilla Firefox filters and add-ons .

 

I have never seen any cookies for the OpenPLi website.

 

Apparently one of the filter add-ons blocked them. I use the PrivacyBadger and uBlockOrigin addons.

[WanWizard]

Probably. It sets a cookie "gdpr-accepted" with value "Yes".

[s3n0]

Uhm, so I tried disabling the PrivacyBadger add-on in my Firefox 94.0.2 and there was no change.

 

I also tried disabling the uBlockOrigin add-on. Finally, the OpenPLi website showed a warning about the acceptance of cookies. However, the wiki.openpli.org website still doesn't work for me. I always get an automatic redirect to the OpenPLi home page. I don't know why. Uhm...

 

 

 

BTW, any forum moderator could cut off this part of the discussion regarding Cookies issue . Thanks .

[WanWizard]

It is a domain cookie, it is being set on .openpli.org, so all subdomains can access it (so you only have to accept once). So perhaps you need to whitelist wiki.openpli.org too, so it has access to the cookie?

[s3n0]

The website works again: https://wiki.openpli...ebugging_Enigma . However, I still have uBlockOrigin and PrivacyBadger plugins turned on. I don't know how this is possible, but it works in my Mozilla Firefox again.

 

There is still a possibility that this blocking was caused by my router (AsusWrt firmware, with auto-update of TrendMicro protection).

 

Unfortunately, before it worked properly, I forgot to test the website in Google Chrome as well.

 

//// EDIT :

 

I wrote it badly.

 

I just deleted all OpenPLi COOKIES in Mozilla Firefox and the website doesn't work again .

Edited by s3n0, 17 December 2021 - 19:40.

[s3n0]

However, this works when I add an exception ("Disabled Sites") to the PrivacyBadger add-on:

*openpli.org

And also if I turn off the uBlockOrigin add-on, for the openpli.org website. So there is added new entry inside the white list:

openpli.org

Of course, I also had to delete the COOKIES for openpli in my Mozilla Firefox, then open the https://wiki.openpli.org website again and allow the COOKIES.

Edited by s3n0, 17 December 2021 - 19:53.

[ccs]

.... how do the rest of us cope? 

[WanWizard]

Don't install stuff that blocks things that shouldn't be bolcked. There is absolutely nothing weird about a single domain cookie.

[s3n0]

@WanWizard

 

Cookies are used to obtain information about the user. The website can store this information directly on your PC. However, the next time you connect to this website, cookies will be processed again. It's an invasion of privacy.

 

For example, if you visit porn sites, thanks to cookies, the entire porn portal can know what interests you . Then, based on that, the ad is displayed.

 

As for PrivacyBadget, it is created especially for this purpose.

 

The uBlockOrigin addon is also a great thing. Successfully blocks all annoying ads while playing YouTube videos. It also blocks many ads from Facebook and other websites.

 

 

@ccs

 

But I already explained it to you. Just what I wrote.

[WanWizard]

If you think that this is an invasion of privacy, they you don't really know what cookies are.

 

Tracking cookies perhaps, yes, but that is something different. This is a simple text cookie, domain restricted, with a text value. Even less privacy related that whatever session cookie you also store from this website.

 

You block it, you don't have access, that simple. You need by law to access our GDPR policy, and we need to store somewhere that you have accepted it. The best way for that is on your own PC, as it is your data.

 

I'm not saying you shouldn't block anything, I'm saying you shouldn't block EVERYTHING. Which you seem to do.

[s3n0]

WanWizard my friend, you really couldn't be a hacker or an internet security expert . But that's just good. The less people know the possibilities of misusing private data, the better for this world. But one time the time will come when he will master these details about the IT environment, every second person. Today, however, only 2 people out of 100 people in total know that it can be abused.

 

Cookies can also be misused legally. For example, by targeted advertising. If the OpenPLi website knows where I am, what content I am interested in, what comments I write, how often and at what time I visit the OpenPLi portal, etc. etc. etc. ... so then, based on that, it can display a relevant ad, which means a higher profit from the ad. But I'm not here to make money for someone else. I'm not a slave. If someone wants to make money on targeted advertising to me, then I want a small percentage of advertising profits ! Otherwise, the ads may die. I really don't need them. I've been helping people for free - all my life. I only make money at work - in a commercial environment. However, in my home environment, advertising and commerce have nothing to do !

 

Money is the scourge of humanity. There will come a time when humanity collapses through money / currency. Philosophers can invent a world in which human civilization would function differently. But not on the principle of money. Money is a very bad journey and brings humanity to 100% perdition. But it doesn't belong here. This is a discussion portal about Linux set-top boxes or their Enigma2 graphical extension . Anyway ... I don't want to contribute to the destruction of humanity through this money.

[WanWizard]

This isn't the place for this kind of in-depth discussions. And I'm very well versed in internet security, thank you. I used to design and build government datacenters en networks for a living .

 

My point is that this is the most simple cookie that can be set.

 

If you block all cookies of this type, absolutely NOTHING on the internet functions anymore. But you don't, because you can login and post. So why is a simple cookie blocked, but the other cookies set by the software not?

 

That is the question on the table here. If we know the 10 differences, I can make the cookie more compatible with blocking software, becasue currently I don't know what to change.

 

The rest of the discussion is noise (in the context of this topic)