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Re: Fast Scan for Telesat Belgium is wrong #21 Pr2

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Posted 1 January 2022 - 10:54

The other channels coming from Hotbird 13E are some channels from the French offer BIS (ABSAT) but you cannot open all of them with TeleSat card. So LCN will not be relevant for TeleSat usage.
Same applied for the channels coming from Astra 19.2E They are channels from french CSat.
So the best thing if is to create manually its own custom favourite. If he wants to still use the Hotbird one in its TeleSat favourite.

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Re: Fast Scan for Telesat Belgium is wrong #22 Huevos

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Posted 1 January 2022 - 11:27

The other channels coming from Hotbird 13E are some channels from the French offer BIS (ABSAT) but you cannot open all of them with TeleSat card. So LCN will not be relevant for TeleSat usage.
Same applied for the channels coming from Astra 19.2E They are channels from french CSat.
So the best thing if is to create manually its own custom favourite. If he wants to still use the Hotbird one in its TeleSat favourite.

And I think all these packages are already available using AutoBouquetsMaker or SatScanLcn plugins.



Re: Fast Scan for Telesat Belgium is wrong #23 Pr2

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Posted 1 January 2022 - 11:35

Yes I think too.


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Sat: Hotbird 13.0E, Astra 19.2E, Eutelsat5A 5.0W
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Re: Fast Scan for Telesat Belgium is wrong #24 polkwan

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Posted 2 January 2022 - 16:11

These packages are maybe available but I don't have these plugins on my image. And even if I had them it would still not help a lot...

The idea of the fastscan is to give instantly the most recent and up to date channel list.

I can set a favorite list on my own naturally but this is annoying and boring to do when there's the possibility to start a fastscan :P



Re: Fast Scan for Telesat Belgium is wrong #25 Huevos

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Posted 2 January 2022 - 21:13

These packages are maybe available but I don't have these plugins on my image. And even if I had them it would still not help a lot...

The idea of the fastscan is to give instantly the most recent and up to date channel list.

I can set a favorite list on my own naturally but this is annoying and boring to do when there's the possibility to start a fastscan :P

Those plugins do exactly the same as fastscan and more. And for a lot more providers.



Re: Fast Scan for Telesat Belgium is wrong #26 Pr2

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Posted 2 January 2022 - 21:32

 

These packages are maybe available but I don't have these plugins on my image. And even if I had them it would still not help a lot...

The idea of the fastscan is to give instantly the most recent and up to date channel list.

I can set a favorite list on my own naturally but this is annoying and boring to do when there's the possibility to start a fastscan :P

Those plugins do exactly the same as fastscan and more. And for a lot more providers.

 

 

Not really those plugin have build in the list of channels for the provider and they create the favorite, this is not the same as Fastscan which uses the information sent by the broadcaster.

Personally, I don't use FastScan because:

- the broadcaster is changing the name of the channels so they didn't match the real "DVB" name

- this method add channels for satellites that you cannot received (no defined in the tuner setup) because M7 is also using Astra 23.5° which I don't receive so this created greyed out channels in the favorite list.

 

@Polwan you can just transfert the userbouquet file created by FastScan on OpenPLi to you other box and it will work. As long as you perform a satellite scan to have the TP and channels in the lamedb.


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Sat: Hotbird 13.0E, Astra 19.2E, Eutelsat5A 5.0W
VU+ Solo 4K: 2*DVB-S2 + 2*DVB-C/T/T2 (used in DVB-C) & Duo 4K: 2*DVB-S2X + DVB-C (FBC)

AB-Com: PULSe 4K 1*DVB-S2X (+ DVB-C/T/T2)
Edision OS Mio 4K: 1*DVB-S2X + 1*DVB-C/T/T2
 


Re: Fast Scan for Telesat Belgium is wrong #27 Huevos

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Posted 2 January 2022 - 21:56

 

 

These packages are maybe available but I don't have these plugins on my image. And even if I had them it would still not help a lot...

The idea of the fastscan is to give instantly the most recent and up to date channel list.

I can set a favorite list on my own naturally but this is annoying and boring to do when there's the possibility to start a fastscan :P

Those plugins do exactly the same as fastscan and more. And for a lot more providers.

 

 

Not really those plugin have build in the list of channels for the provider and they create the favorite, this is not the same as Fastscan which uses the information sent by the broadcaster.

Personally, I don't use FastScan because:

- the broadcaster is changing the name of the channels so they didn't match the real "DVB" name

- this method add channels for satellites that you cannot received (no defined in the tuner setup) because M7 is also using Astra 23.5° which I don't receive so this created greyed out channels in the favorite list

 

You are mistaken about the plugins. They download the channel list direct from the transport stream same as Fastscan. And from the same PIDs.



Re: Fast Scan for Telesat Belgium is wrong #28 polkwan

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Posted 2 January 2022 - 23:18

@Polwan you can just transfert the userbouquet file created by FastScan on OpenPLi to you other box and it will work. As long as you perform a satellite scan to have the TP and channels in the lamedb.

 

This is exactly what I do. But it isn't really convenient :P

 

 

You are mistaken about the plugins. They download the channel list direct from the transport stream same as Fastscan. And from the same PIDs.

 

I'm gonna give it a try. Is there any feed I can access to in order to download these plugins ?



Re: Fast Scan for Telesat Belgium is wrong #29 Huevos

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Posted 3 January 2022 - 00:10

 

@Polwan you can just transfert the userbouquet file created by FastScan on OpenPLi to you other box and it will work. As long as you perform a satellite scan to have the TP and channels in the lamedb.

 

This is exactly what I do. But it isn't really convenient :P

 

 

You are mistaken about the plugins. They download the channel list direct from the transport stream same as Fastscan. And from the same PIDs.

 

I'm gonna give it a try. Is there any feed I can access to in order to download these plugins ?

 

ABM should be in PLi feeds.

 

SatScanLcn does a similar job but is much more basic. You can download the IPK here: https://github.com/H...tree/master/ipk



Re: Fast Scan for Telesat Belgium is wrong #30 Huevos

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Posted 3 January 2022 - 00:25

SatScanLcn has BIS TV 13.0E. Is that what you were looking for?

 

 

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Re: Fast Scan for Telesat Belgium is wrong #31 polkwan

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Posted 3 January 2022 - 02:23

Thank you Huevos. Do you know the link to PLi feed for ipk's ?

 

 

 


SatScanLcn has BIS TV 13.0E. Is that what you were looking for?

Not exactly. As Pr2 explained you TeleSAT is made of channels from BIS but not only.

So once I scan BIS channels I still need to make a selection of channels I receive and others that aren't included in the subscription. Then, I need to mix them with other channels that are on 19E, etc.

Ideally I would need a plugin that does exactly what the Fastscan features :P

(that's why I started this thread basically) 


Edited by polkwan, 3 January 2022 - 02:29.


Re: Fast Scan for Telesat Belgium is wrong #32 Huevos

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Posted 3 January 2022 - 02:30

Are you saying you want some of those BIS channels inserted into your Fastscan lineup?

 

If so ABM can do that automatically. You just need to supply an xml file with the channel numbers to swap. The whole thing is explained in the readme shipped with the plugin.



Re: Fast Scan for Telesat Belgium is wrong #33 polkwan

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Posted 3 January 2022 - 02:33

Do you know the link to PLi feed for ipk's in order to get ABM ?

(Just reminding I need it for another image than openpli)



Re: Fast Scan for Telesat Belgium is wrong #34 Huevos

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Posted 3 January 2022 - 02:37

What image?



Re: Fast Scan for Telesat Belgium is wrong #35 WanWizard

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Posted 3 January 2022 - 12:49

Do you know the link to PLi feed for ipk's in order to get ABM ?

(Just reminding I need it for another image than openpli)

 

Eh... we're not in the business of providing feeds and download bandwidth for other images. ABM is open source, they can build their own ipk.


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Re: Fast Scan for Telesat Belgium is wrong #36 Pr2

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Posted 3 January 2022 - 17:54

The package for LCN scan is also in the OpenPLi feed just look for:

 

enigma2-plugin-systemplugins-misplslcnscan


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Re: Fast Scan for Telesat Belgium is wrong #37 Huevos

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Posted 3 January 2022 - 21:03

The package for LCN scan is also in the OpenPLi feed just look for:

 

enigma2-plugin-systemplugins-misplslcnscan

No, that is a different plugin.

 

https://github.com/o.../MisPlsLcnScan/ does 5.0W French and Italian multistream channels. This is a special case as these channels do not even have a satellite NIT.

 

https://github.com/Huevos/SatScanLcn does most other providers.

 

And of course ABM which also does most LCN providers.



Re: Fast Scan for Telesat Belgium is wrong #38 polkwan

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Posted 5 January 2022 - 14:06

 

Do you know the link to PLi feed for ipk's in order to get ABM ?

(Just reminding I need it for another image than openpli)

 

Eh... we're not in the business of providing feeds and download bandwidth for other images. ABM is open source, they can build their own ipk.

 

Obviously. And this isn't what I expected.

As there's no plugin that does exactly wha FastScan does I was wondering if there's was any possible way to replicate the Fastscan method on another image.

Apparently there is none and that's pretty disappointing to my opinion.

All given IPK seem to only scan by broadcaster and/or by position but this is not what I would need.

As Pr2 said, and as I said, I will continue to have no other choice but to perform a Fastscan on an OpenPLi machine and then copy/paste the bouquet to another machine through Dreamset. Which is, you must agree, not convenient operation...



Re: Fast Scan for Telesat Belgium is wrong #39 WanWizard

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Posted 5 January 2022 - 14:20

Our code is open source, so anyone is free to implement it, with attribution. Perhaps direct your disapprovement towards the people that make the software for that "other machine"?


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Re: Fast Scan for Telesat Belgium is wrong #40 Huevos

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Posted 5 January 2022 - 14:21

Most other images have fastscan. But you have already said fastscan is no good for your needs. Nor any of the other plugins that do the same as fastscan and more.

 

And you are so vague about what you actually want it looks like you are on your own.

 

Begs the question why you are using another image if it doesn't fulfill your requirements.


Edited by Huevos, 5 January 2022 - 14:22.



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