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[coom]

Hi try to log the following:

PIP German TV and BBC. German TV frozen. Starting recording recording on different German channel via OpeWebif, one tuner green (a), two yellow, than starting another German channel to stream on the computer: this channel is streaming fine!

 enigma.20220131.debuglog.zip   59.97KB   1 downloads

 

Issue is the same with both VTI image and OpenATV.

[Dimitrij]

coom

New test...

Enable only tuners A and B

Open tuner setup --> Set another "Channel" 1210(1) , e.g. tuners A -->User band 1420(2) and tuners B-->User band 1680(3)

 

1)play live tv  service 19.2E(e.g.  ZDF)

2)restart enigma as the debug log

4)play as PiP(channel selector/menu/blue button) service 28.2E(e.g. service BBC)

 

Info

https://telestar.de/..._hc_lnb_001.pdf

Edited by Dimitrij, 31 January 2022 - 12:20.

[Dimitrij]

I hope you are using two physical cables, no switch ?

[anudanan]

He has two cables to the two LNBs, no switch 

 

Do you think there is a problem in the driver if both tuner blocks  (A,C,D,E) and (B,F,G,H) use the same userband configs? From my point of view it is logical that it must work but it doesn´t

Edited by anudanan, 31 January 2022 - 13:25.

[Dimitrij]

 

Do you think there is a problem in the driver if both tuner blocks  (A,C,D,E) and (B,F,G,H) use the same userband configs? From my point of view it is logical that it must work but it doesn´t

maybe

[coom]

Hi,

 

anudanan is right each LNB is connect to the the tuner input via separate cable directly.

the original problem was, that when I was watching a program on 19.2, a timer starting a recording on 28.2 in the background, caused the 19.2 on the screen to freeze. Workaround: start another recording an a second 19.2 channel and I was again able to watch the original 19.,2 program...

will do the next test a requested, I can seen a logic in the idea.

[WanWizard]

Just bitten the bullit and climbed into the loft ( freaking cold there ! ).

 

Switched cables and configured my Duo 4K like so:

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So one Unicable switch to FBC card 1, input A, and another Unicable switch to FBC card 1, input B.

 

Both use the same LNB number, and both use the same Userband. I can stream NED1 HD on 23.5 and BBC 1 on 28.2 simultaneously, no problem.

[anudanan]

You use a different unicable switch for tuner A und tuner B with different frequencies for userband 1. 

That is not exactly the same as @coom has

 

I think your unicable switche have an own powersupply, if the power ist the problem 

Edited by anudanan, 31 January 2022 - 15:11.

[coom]

guys,

 

fantastic! this does the trick!  enigma.20220131.debuglog.zip   102.94KB   4 downloads

will now try 2 more tuner, at least I would be able to record and watch the same time!

Edited by coom, 31 January 2022 - 15:22.

[Dimitrij]

New test...

Enable only tuners A and B

Open tuner setup --> Set  same number "Channel" 1210(1) , e.g. tuners A -->"Channel" 1210(1) and tuners B-->"Channel" 1210(1)

When ok log not need.

 

New test...

Add more tuners

Edited by Dimitrij, 31 January 2022 - 15:32.

[WanWizard]

You use a different unicable switch for tuner A und tuner B with different frequencies for userband 1. 

That is not exactly the same as @coom has

 

I think your unicable switche have an own powersupply, if the power ist the problem 

 

It's all I have . And yes, the switches are extermally powered.

[coom]

Open tuner setup --> Set  same number "Channel" 1210(1) , e.g. tuners A -->"Channel" 1210(1) and tuners B-->"Channel" 1210(1)

doesn't work!

 

A 1210 (1) 28.2

B 1420 (2) 19.2

C 1680 (3) 28.2

F 2040 (4) 19.2

works, can record one channel on either satellite and watch another in parallel!

[coom]

@WanWizzard thank you for the effort to climb to the loft and switch cables etc.

From your pictures, I see, that your LNBs are not the same and they use different channels on (1) 1280 and 1210 respectively, may be that's why it works.... 

[anudanan]

I new idea from me.

 

works this setup with all 4 tuners correctly? one live TV; one PIP, two recordings, all from different transponders

 

 

A 1210 (1) 28.2

B 1420 (2) 19.2

C 1420 (2) 28.2

F 1210 (1) 19.2

Edited by anudanan, 31 January 2022 - 16:34.

[WanWizard]

From your pictures, I see, that your LNBs are not the same and they use different channels on (1) 1280 and 1210 respectively, may be that's why it works.... 

 

Checked, my Jultec provides 1280,1382,1484,1586,1688 and 1790, and my Inverto provides 1210,1420,1680,2040,985,1050,1115,1275,1340,1485,1550,1615,1745,1810,1875 and 1940.

 

So I can't create a setup with the same UB frequencies.

[Dimitrij]

coom

New test...

Open tuner setup --> Set  same number "Channel" 1420 (2) , e.g. tuners A -->28.2 "Channel" 1420 (2) and tuners B-->19.2 "Channel" 1420 (2)

 

1)delete all /home/root/*.debuglog

2)play live tv  service 19.2E(e.g.  ZDF)

3)restart enigma as the debug log

4)play as PiP(channel selector/menu/blue button) service 28.2E(e.g. service BBC)

Edited by Dimitrij, 31 January 2022 - 17:31.

[coom]

@Dimitrij: same Channels e.g 1420 (2) for both LNBs does not work

[coom]

@anadana:

A 1210 (1) 28.2

B 1420 (2) 19.2

C 1420 (2) 28.2

F 1210 (1) 19.2

 

does not work PiP 19.2 freezes

[anudanan]

It looks like that a double use of same userband frequencies in  seperated and different tuner groups are not allowed. It only works if all frequencies are different. The config of Wanwizard  shows us the double use of the userband numbers in separated tuner groups are not a problem.

 

 

@Dimitry

Is the reason for that issue from your knowledge a limitation of enigma2 or a limitation/bug in the vuplus driver?

 

My feeling is, it is a bug inside the vuplus driver

Edited by anudanan, 31 January 2022 - 18:54.

[Dimitrij]

 

@Dimitry

Is the reason for that issue from your knowledge a limitation of enigma2 or a limitation/bug in the vuplus driver?

 

My feeling is, it is a bug inside the vuplus driver

I do not know. Maybe the reason is in the VU+ drivers.

We need tests from other users who have two UniCable LNBs(same user band) with different satellites.