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#1 devane

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Posted 11 October 2023 - 14:24

Hello,

 

i have strange problem with my positioner. It does not move every time I try to change the satellite. It shows that it is moving but it is not. When I go to menu->setup->tuners & scanning->positioner setup, then select Movement and then press 'move east' or 'move west' it works and then when I exit from that menu and try to change the satellite it works

 

I am not sure if this is hardware problem related to my positioner or to my receiver or it is a software bug.

 

receiver: gigablue uhd quad 4k

os: openpli 8.3

 

Just give me an idea where i need to look for the problem.



Re: positioner does not work every time #2 Frenske

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Posted 11 October 2023 - 15:52

It starts with what kind of motor you are using and whether the tunerconfiguration is properly set.

If you have a DISEqc USALS motor set it up like this and if the chosen coordinates North and East are set properly AND the motor is properly mounted, then the satellites are found automatically. 


Mijn schotel is een T90 met 10 LNB's. Daarnaast voor de fun nog een draaibaar systeem met een Triax TD 78.

Dreamboxen heb ik niet meer echt actief. Verder heb ik ook nog een een VU+ duo2 met 500Gb harddisk + een VU+ Uno, Zero, Solo 4K, Ultimo 4K, Zero 4K, Uno 4Kse. + ook nog een Xtrend ET7x00. Daarnaast heb ik ook nog diverse andere modellen w.o. een Formuler F4, ET8500, ET7500, Mut@nt 2400HD, Xsarius Fusion HD se en verder nog wel het e.e.a. waarmee op verzoek vanalles wordt getest. Iemand moet het tenslotte doen. ;) :)
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Re: positioner does not work every time #3 devane

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Posted 11 October 2023 - 18:34

I am attaching screenshots of the motor.

I am using this configuration 6+ years with no problems with Xtrend 7x00. The thing is that when I changed my receiver with gigablue and upgraded to version 8.x it started doing this.

That is why I am asking if this can be hardware problem because I am using this for a long time or it can be related to Gigablue OpenPLi port/software.

I have changed both cables from receiver to positioner/motor and from positioner/motor to LNB. The result is the same.

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Re: positioner does not work every time #4 Dimitrij

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Posted 12 October 2023 - 05:24

 

 It shows that it is moving but it is not.

What does it mean?


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Re: positioner does not work every time #5 devane

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Posted 12 October 2023 - 06:44

It means that I can see the rotating satellite symbol in the upper left corner with seconds counted until it gets to the new position but the satellite dish is not moving.



Re: positioner does not work every time #6 Dimitrij

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Posted 12 October 2023 - 07:27

 

When I go to menu->setup->tuners & scanning->positioner setup, then select Movement and then press 'move east' or 'move west' it works

When this work maybe for test need disable USALS -->add position manual/ "Reset limits"


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Posted 12 October 2023 - 09:13

It means that I can see the rotating satellite symbol in the upper left corner with seconds counted until it gets to the new position but the satellite dish is not moving.

it is symbol only and nothing to do with moving ...

 

- go to zero position in Positioner menu, then try it again

- try use manual steps in Positioner menu and monitor, if is signal on signal bar changed, when you are moving dish manually with steps.

- may be, test it with Xtrend 7x00 again, if motor is still ok, too.


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Re: positioner does not work every time #8 devane

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Posted 12 October 2023 - 20:01

Unfortunately it does not work with the old Xtrend 7500 either. Maybe the motor is the problem.

Btw when I did 'Goto 0' it completely stopped  moving at one time on a position which does not have any signal. Now I cannot move it at all.



Re: positioner does not work every time #9 Dimitrij

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Posted 13 October 2023 - 05:08

The reset button on the motor housing, if available.


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Re: positioner does not work every time #10 devane

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Posted 16 October 2023 - 08:21

The reset button on the motor housing, if available.

I didn't find such button but I think now it is clear that the problem is the motor so I ordered a new one.

Thanks for the help



Re: positioner does not work every time #11 Frenske

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Posted 16 October 2023 - 08:27

Pity that you didn’t put some effort in finding the reset button. Depending the brand the reset button is usually hidden under a rubber cap where they have put a led.

Just lift the side of one of caps and you’ll see what I ment. But, as you already purchased a new one this advice has no further use.  ;)


Mijn schotel is een T90 met 10 LNB's. Daarnaast voor de fun nog een draaibaar systeem met een Triax TD 78.

Dreamboxen heb ik niet meer echt actief. Verder heb ik ook nog een een VU+ duo2 met 500Gb harddisk + een VU+ Uno, Zero, Solo 4K, Ultimo 4K, Zero 4K, Uno 4Kse. + ook nog een Xtrend ET7x00. Daarnaast heb ik ook nog diverse andere modellen w.o. een Formuler F4, ET8500, ET7500, Mut@nt 2400HD, Xsarius Fusion HD se en verder nog wel het e.e.a. waarmee op verzoek vanalles wordt getest. Iemand moet het tenslotte doen. ;) :)
Los van de eerder genoemde modellen heb ik nog wel een rits aan testsamples als Mut@nt 2400HD, HD60, GB UE4K, GB Trio4K, Maxitec Multibox combo en Twin, Octagon sf8008, sf8008 mini en last but nog least enkele modellen van het Grieks Duitse Edision.

Voor centrale opslag van media gebruik ik een Qnap 219P 
met tweemaal 2 Tb harddisks + een Synology DS414 met 12 Tb Totale opslag.

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