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[raptorx99]

Hi zusammen,

 

bin vor ein paar Wochen von VTI auf OpenPLI 9.0  umgestiegen und bisher auch sehr zufrieden. Bis auf einen lästigen Fehler der immer wieder auftritt.

In völlig unregelmäßigen Zeitabständen ... manchmal nach 2 Tagen, manchmal nach einer Woche ... verabschiedet sich mein SAT Empfang mitten im schauen einer Sendung mit der Meldung "tunen fehlgeschlagen". Jetzt gerade auch wieder. Deaktivieren und aktivieren des Tuner A etwa bringt nichts, GUI Neustart auch nicht.

Abhilfe bringt nur ein Reboot der Ultimo 4k, danach läuft wieder alles als wäre nichts passiert.

Kurz zu meinem Setup:

 

Ultimo 4k mit 2x FBC Tuner (Nur einer angeschlossen und in Betrieb)

Inverto IDLU-32L412-UNBRR-OPN Unicable 2/Jess LNB

 

Verkabelung: Inverto LNB - Inverto LNB Power Injector dazwischengeschaltet - SAT Dose 1 OG - SAT Dose 2 EG - SAT Dose 3 EG (Ultimo 4k & LG 77C1 Tuner) - SAT Dose 4 OG (Vu+ Duo2).

 

Die VU+ Duo2 oben, ist nur ganz selten in Betrieb, aktuell etwa auch ausgeschaltet, dürfte also kein Faktor sein.

 

Am LNB scheint es nicht zu liegen, weil wie oben erwähnt, ich über einen Splitter an der Dose 3 auch den Tuner meines LG OLED dran habe, und der weiter problemlos SAT Empfang hat, wenn wie jetzt die Ultimo 4k tot ist.

 

Folgendes sehe ich jetzt in /var/log/messages wenn das "tunen fehlshlägt":

 

Jun  3 16:32:23 vuultimo4k user.warn kernel: [ 2620.893598] timeout bcm7335_send_diseqc_msg BKNI_WaitForEvent

Jun  3 16:32:24 vuultimo4k user.warn kernel: [ 2621.850183] FE tune

Jun  3 16:32:26 vuultimo4k user.warn kernel: [ 2623.801167] FE tune

Jun  3 16:32:28 vuultimo4k user.warn kernel: [ 2625.752188] FE tune

Jun  3 16:32:29 vuultimo4k user.warn kernel: [ 2627.022527] timeout bcm7335_send_diseqc_msg BKNI_WaitForEvent

Jun  3 16:32:31 vuultimo4k user.warn kernel: [ 2628.827658] FE tune

Jun  3 16:32:33 vuultimo4k user.warn kernel: [ 2630.778683] FE tune

Jun  3 16:32:35 vuultimo4k user.warn kernel: [ 2633.150456] timeout bcm7335_send_diseqc_msg BKNI_WaitForEvent

Jun  3 16:32:36 vuultimo4k user.warn kernel: [ 2633.857136] FE tune

Jun  3 16:32:38 vuultimo4k user.warn kernel: [ 2635.808166] FE tune

Jun  3 16:32:40 vuultimo4k user.warn kernel: [ 2637.759187] FE tune

Jun  3 16:32:41 vuultimo4k user.warn kernel: [ 2639.279398] timeout bcm7335_send_diseqc_msg BKNI_WaitForEvent

Jun  3 16:32:43 vuultimo4k user.warn kernel: [ 2640.835645] FE tune

Jun  3 16:32:45 vuultimo4k user.warn kernel: [ 2642.786677] FE tune

Jun  3 16:32:47 vuultimo4k user.warn kernel: [ 2645.409338] timeout bcm7335_send_diseqc_msg BKNI_WaitForEvent

Jun  3 16:32:48 vuultimo4k user.warn kernel: [ 2645.866136] FE tune

Jun  3 16:32:50 vuultimo4k user.warn kernel: [ 2647.817159] FE tune

Jun  3 16:32:52 vuultimo4k user.warn kernel: [ 2649.768185] FE tune

Jun  3 16:32:54 vuultimo4k user.warn kernel: [ 2651.539267] timeout bcm7335_send_diseqc_msg BKNI_WaitForEvent

 

"Diseq" nutze ich nicht und die Option ist in der Tuner Config auch nicht aktiviert. Siehe angehängte Screenshots.

 

Frage zur FBC Tuner Config, da dies im VTI Image etwas anders war ... von dem was ich hier gelesen hab dachte ich, in meinem Fall nur Tuner A konfigurieren und dann C-H auf "FBC automatisch" lassen. Das funktioniert bei mir aber nicht, wenn ich die virtuellen Tuner so stehen lasse, dann habe ich effektiv nur den Tuner A zur Verfügung. Getestet mit Aufnahmen ... Also muss ich Tuner C-H auf "FBC SCR (Unicable Jess)" stellen um dann dort wie beim VTI Image gewohnt für jeden virtuellen Tuner den korrekten Kanal/SCR setzen zu können.

Hätte mich eh gewundert wie dieses "FBC automatisch" Setting von Zauberhand meine SCR Konfiguration kennen soll ...?

 

Lange Rede,kurzer Sinn .... hat irgendwer von euch eine Idee von was diese "Tunen fehlgeschlagen" kommen könnte?

 

Viele Grüße,

 

raptor

 

 

So, wenn mir jetzt noch wer sagt wie ich euch hier Bilder anhänge oder verlinke würde ich auch meine Tuner Config zeigen. Aber ich darf weder zu ImgBB verlinken noch, JPGs oder PNGs direkt attachen .... :-)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[littlesat]

Kannst du den Screenshots hizufuegen?

[raptorx99]

Kannst du den Screenshots hizufuegen?

 

https://ibb.co/CJG6QJs

 

https://ibb.co/7V3xk3Y

 

https://ibb.co/xFXjV8h

 

Hoffe mit den "nackten" Links klappts ....

[Abu Baniaz]

FBC automatic = Internal loop through.
FBC automatisch = Interner Durchschleifgang.

Do you have one or two FBC cards? i,e 2 or 4 connection points? A picture of Menu > Information > About would be good clarification.
Haben Sie eine oder zwei FBC-Karten? d.h. 2 oder 4 Anschlusspunkte? Ein Bild von Menu > Information > About wäre eine gute Verdeutlichung



Sorry to ask. Are you sure that you have not re-used the same SCR band on the other devices connected to the LNB? All devices connected to a unicable LNB must have a unique SCR.
Tut mir leid, zu fragen. Sind Sie sicher, dass Sie nicht dasselbe SCR-Band auf den anderen an den LNB angeschlossenen Geräten wiederverwendet haben? Alle an einen Unikabel-LNB angeschlossenen Geräte müssen über einen eindeutigen SCR verfügen.

Why is tuner B not configured?
Warum ist Tuner B nicht konfiguriert?


This command shows your tuner configuration easily
Dieser Befehl zeigt Ihre Tunerkonfiguration einfach an
cat /etc/enigma2/settings | grep config.Nims > /tmp/mytunerconfig.txt

[raptorx99]

Hey Abu,

 

not sure if you understood all of the german above correctly, so I'll try my best in english to answer your questions.

 

I have two FBC cards in the Ultimo4k, only one card is connected with one Sat cable, since I don't need any more tuners.

From what I understood reading the Wiki and Forums, the PLI settings differ from the ones of VTI that I was used to. Correct me if I am wrong ...

 

Tuner A - First physical FBC Card/Tuner

Tuner B - Second physical FBC Card/Tuner (As mentioned above, not connected, that's why I don't have it configured)

Tuner C-H (virtual "Leaf" Tuners of my first FBC card ... correct?)

 

I'll attach the tuner config from settings below ...

 

Regarding your SCR question, yes I am pretty sure that no SCR / Channel is in double use. I just double checked this again. It's the same SCR Config that I used before on the VTI Image without any problems. As mentioned in my original post, that the Sat Signal seems to suddenly vanish, while watching a channel (not when switching a channel) for no reason on all tuners, physical and virtual. Signal Finder e.g. also shows no signal on any of the configured tuners when this happens. Only thing that helps as of now is to reboot the box. 

Also, described in my original post .. the lnb seems to work fine, since my also attached integrated TV Tuner in my LG Oled keeps working just fine when my Sat Signal dies on the Ultimo 4k with OpenPLI.

 

 

config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.fastDiseqc=true

config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.lof=unicable

config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.scrfrequency=1494

config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.scrList=16

config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.unicableManufacturer=Inverto

config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.unicableProduct=IDLU-32L412-UNBRR-OPN

config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.192.lnb=1

config.Nims.0.configMode=advanced

config.Nims.1.configMode=nothing

config.Nims.2.advanced.lnb.1.lof=unicable

config.Nims.2.advanced.lnb.1.scrfrequency=1092

config.Nims.2.advanced.lnb.1.scrList=8

config.Nims.2.advanced.lnb.1.unicableManufacturer=Inverto

config.Nims.2.advanced.lnb.1.unicableProduct=IDLU-32L412-UNBRR-OPN

config.Nims.2.advanced.sat.192.lnb=1

config.Nims.2.advanced.sats=192

config.Nims.2.advanced.unicableconnected=true

config.Nims.2.configMode=advanced

config.Nims.3.advanced.lnb.1.lof=unicable

config.Nims.3.advanced.lnb.1.scrfrequency=1128

config.Nims.3.advanced.lnb.1.scrList=9

config.Nims.3.advanced.lnb.1.unicableManufacturer=Inverto

config.Nims.3.advanced.lnb.1.unicableProduct=IDLU-32L412-UNBRR-OPN

config.Nims.3.advanced.sat.192.lnb=1

config.Nims.3.advanced.sats=192

config.Nims.3.advanced.unicableconnected=true

config.Nims.3.advanced.unicableconnectedTo=0

config.Nims.3.configMode=advanced

config.Nims.4.advanced.lnb.1.lof=unicable

config.Nims.4.advanced.lnb.1.scrfrequency=1164

config.Nims.4.advanced.lnb.1.scrList=10

config.Nims.4.advanced.lnb.1.unicableManufacturer=Inverto

config.Nims.4.advanced.lnb.1.unicableProduct=IDLU-32L412-UNBRR-OPN

config.Nims.4.advanced.sat.192.lnb=1

config.Nims.4.advanced.sats=192

config.Nims.4.advanced.unicableconnected=true

config.Nims.4.configMode=advanced

config.Nims.5.advanced.lnb.1.lof=unicable

config.Nims.5.advanced.lnb.1.scrfrequency=1292

config.Nims.5.advanced.lnb.1.scrList=12

config.Nims.5.advanced.lnb.1.unicableManufacturer=Inverto

config.Nims.5.advanced.lnb.1.unicableProduct=IDLU-32L412-UNBRR-OPN

config.Nims.5.advanced.sat.192.lnb=1

config.Nims.5.advanced.sats=192

config.Nims.5.advanced.unicableconnected=true

config.Nims.5.advanced.unicableconnectedTo=0

config.Nims.5.configMode=advanced

config.Nims.6.advanced.lnb.1.lof=unicable

config.Nims.6.advanced.lnb.1.scrfrequency=1328

config.Nims.6.advanced.lnb.1.scrList=13

config.Nims.6.advanced.lnb.1.unicableManufacturer=Inverto

config.Nims.6.advanced.lnb.1.unicableProduct=IDLU-32L412-UNBRR-OPN

config.Nims.6.advanced.sat.192.lnb=1

config.Nims.6.advanced.sats=192

config.Nims.6.advanced.unicableconnected=true

config.Nims.6.configMode=advanced

config.Nims.7.advanced.lnb.1.lof=unicable

config.Nims.7.advanced.lnb.1.scrfrequency=1364

config.Nims.7.advanced.lnb.1.scrList=14

config.Nims.7.advanced.lnb.1.unicableManufacturer=Inverto

config.Nims.7.advanced.lnb.1.unicableProduct=IDLU-32L412-UNBRR-OPN

config.Nims.7.advanced.sat.192.lnb=1

config.Nims.7.advanced.sats=192

config.Nims.7.advanced.unicableconnected=true

config.Nims.7.configMode=advanced

config.Nims.8.configMode=nothing

config.Nims.9.configMode=nothing

config.Nims.16.configMode=nothing

[Abu Baniaz]

I am using Google Translate. This is the German section.
Ich benutze Google Translate. Dies ist die deutsche Sektion.

On VTI, they do daisy chaining.
Bei VTI führen sie Daisy-Chaining durch.

A < B < C < D < E < F < G < H
 
On PLI, we link to the tuner that that has the signal wire.
Bei PLI verbinden wir uns mit dem Tuner, der das Signalkabel hat.

A < B
A < C
A < D
A < E
A < F
A < G
A < H

I don't know what the fast diseqc option is. Hopefully someone will confirm what it is for. Tuner configuration looks correct for signal wire being attached to Tuner A. Top slot of tuner in slot A
Ich weiß nicht, was die schnelle Diseqc-Option ist. Hoffentlich bestätigt jemand, wofür es ist. Die Tunerkonfiguration sieht für das Signalkabel korrekt aus, das an Tuner A angeschlossen ist. Oberer Steckplatz des Tuners in Steckplatz A

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[raptorx99]

I am using Google Translate. This is the German section.
Ich benutze Google Translate. Dies ist die deutsche Sektion.

On VTI, they do daisy chaining.
Bei VTI führen sie Daisy-Chaining durch.

A < B < C < D < E < F < G < H
 
On PLI, we link to the tuner that that has the signal wire.
Bei PLI verbinden wir uns mit dem Tuner, der das Signalkabel hat.

A < B
A < C
A < D
A < E
A < F
A < G
A < H

I don't know what the fast diseqc option is. Hopefully someone will confirm what it is for. Tuner configuration looks correct for signal wire being attached to Tuner A. Top slot of tuner in slot A
Ich weiß nicht, was die schnelle Diseqc-Option ist. Hoffentlich bestätigt jemand, wofür es ist. Die Tunerkonfiguration sieht für das Signalkabel korrekt aus, das an Tuner A angeschlossen ist. Oberer Steckplatz des Tuners in Steckplatz A

 Understood, but I am pretty sure that it's not a total misconfiguration of my Tuners.

Again ... this "tuning failed" error appears out of no where, after days of use without any problems even doing 4 parallel recordings is not a problem. But if the error occurs ... the whole tuner including all virtual tuners are "dead".

[Abu Baniaz]

If it was configuration error, issue would occur all the time. Possibility is loose connection or splitter faulty.

Wenn es sich um einen Konfigurationsfehler handelte, trat das Problem ständig auf. Es besteht die Möglichkeit, dass die Verbindung oder der Splitter defekt ist.

[raptorx99]

Well, that still wouldn't explain why the error didn't occur with the VTI Image I was using just a couple of weeks ago ...? And also why does a reboot of the box cure the issue immediately?

[Dimitrij]

raptorx99

 

Install OpenPLI develop image

[unicable] fix number 'ub' when close tuner

 

 

 

As mentioned in my original post, that the Sat Signal seems to suddenly vanish, while watching a channel (not when switching a channel) for no reason on all tuners, physical and virtual.

Is only one tuner being used at this point?

That is, there is no parallel recording/streaming/PiP?

Edited by Dimitrij, 4 June 2024 - 06:51.

[Dimitrij]

And maybe

 

If it was configuration error, issue would occur all the time. Possibility is loose connection or splitter faulty.

[raptorx99]

raptorx99

 

Install OpenPLI develop image

[unicable] fix number 'ub' when close tuner

 

 

 

As mentioned in my original post, that the Sat Signal seems to suddenly vanish, while watching a channel (not when switching a channel) for no reason on all tuners, physical and virtual.

Is only one tuner being used at this point?

That is, there is no parallel recording/streaming/PiP?

 

Hey,

 

yes only one Tuner in use, most probably Tuner A. No matter if watching FTA or an encrypted PayTV HD Channel. Happened on both. No parallel Streaming or PIP.

 

Develop would probably be the last option, but how stable is the dev branch? I would not want to fix that error by "buying" a couple of others ...

Edited by raptorx99, 4 June 2024 - 10:57.

[raptorx99]

 

And maybe

 

If it was configuration error, issue would occur all the time. Possibility is loose connection or splitter faulty.

 

Splitter (splitting signal between Ultimo 4K FBC Tuner and LG Oled integrated Tuner) is the same for years, never caused problems. And what do you mean by "loss of connection"? As mentioned above, when the error occurs on OpenPLI I can switch to internal LG TV Tuner which continues to work just fine ... so the "connection" or Sat signal in general is still delivered by the LNB.

[Dimitrij]

 

Develop would probably be the last option, but how stable is the dev branch?

Use VU+ multiboot.

https://wiki.openpli.org/Vu_Multiboot

Edited by Dimitrij, 4 June 2024 - 16:29.