Vandyke

I would like to point your view against more problematic facts.

 

Enigma2 WAS a Open Source Project developed by DM with two licenses:

1. DM maintain Enigma2 for their boxes and these ones are automatically licensed to use it

2. other people can use their sources on other hardware BUT these people have to follow GPL license and DM don't care about problems and other issues on different hardware BUT these forks can, via GPL, can be imported into main source tree...

 

Everyone can see in Enigma2 sources the usage of code subjected to GPL and if I'm not in error, if a piece of code is GPLized mean all the project must follow the same license.

 

Around September 2010, DM has changed license for Enigma2 project making it CLOSED SOURCE and cutting ut GPL part.

This isn't a violation of GPL License? It's quite strange that a GPL Project can be converted as CLOSED but probably I'm not the right person and a lot of lawyers can detail this strange license change.

 

We cannot check inside Enigma2 sources after September 2010 but I'm pretty sure some of the code released in the past as GPL for everyone is still here and, of course, around over GPL license ....

 

Probably the problem is outside Pli, BH and other teams not mentioned here but nobody want to see it.

It's too simple to talk "You must respect GPL" when GPL is violated every DAY from another company who think that the name "Enigma2" is their unique intellectual property (they looses in courthouse for that! ) and they uses, approx 99% sure, GPL code around the web for their commercial interests breaking GPL license.

 

GPL is GPL for ALL, not for the usual people.

 

 

That does not explain why you refuse to release the source for the BH image.

 

 

bacicciosat
 
Support xtrend/formiler is not planned?

They are paid to support only marusys vu+ products.

 

 

 

And now you've really crossed all limits.

I hope that this will be sanctioned.

Because it is a direct attack on people.

I will monitor whether sanctions will follow.

This is something we would not have ever allowed in our forum.

 

Shame on you.

 

 

 

You want to censor the entire internet ?. 

So you deny that The Blackhole team are illegally refusing to release the source of their main BH image then ?.

In that case I stand corrected, but they are still illegally in direct conflict with GPL by refusing to release the source of the main Blackhole image and there is nothing you can say to deny that.

Does this mean BH has become 'real open source' at last and published their repository?

 
 
No. They only released the source for their Pli based image, their existing OE based image is still as closed as ever.

 

They released pli based image only to satisfy users which use IPTV as apperently original image has problems in this department.

 
1) First of all you should know that i have launched and make it possible here the idea of E2OpenPlugins. I have also created the project OpenWebIf and i am the main author. So my contribute to open source is a little bit strong of many of you here using bad attitude and charges.
2) Black Hole image have no problem with IPTV. You can dowload 2.1.6 and test and you will see that it works fine and fast.
3) The amount of work to port the old BH image in public is too big becasue the code is bad and ugly and should be rewrite to be publicated. But all the panels of old Bh have been recoded and are now in OBH so all the code is public and in the git.
4) For any part of the code that is not out you should know that it is available for Pli team as i told to Milo Pieterg and others from many time ago.
 
And finally you should look at yourself from an external point of view. It seems you think always to be the best in the world and often ppl that come here to help, to develop opens source projects (OWIF) ar simply to thank for the pli work (as in this case) is traty from top to botton.
Maybe not all teams and coder are at Pli level or have so high intelligence or skill but it is not nice your way.

Does this mean BH has become 'real open source' at last and published their repository?

 
 
No. They only released the source for their Pli based image, their existing OE based image is still as closed as ever.

 

They released pli based image only to satisfy users which use IPTV as apperently original image has problems in this department.

 
1) First of all you should know that i have launched and make it possible here the idea of E2OpenPlugins. I have also created the project OpenWebIf and i am the main author. So my contribute to open source is a little bit strong of many of you here using bad attitude and charges.
2) Black Hole image have no problem with IPTV. You can dowload 2.1.6 and test and you will see that it works fine and fast.
3) The amount of work to port the old BH image in public is too big becasue the code is bad and ugly and should be rewrite to be publicated. But all the panels of old Bh have been recoded and are now in OBH so all the code is public and in the git.
4) For any part of the code that is not out you should know that it is available for Pli team as i told to Milo Pieterg and others from many time ago.
 
And finally you should look at yourself from an external point of view. It seems you think always to be the best in the world and often ppl that come here to help, to develop opens source projects (OWIF) ar simply to thank for the pli work (as in this case) is traty from top to botton.
Maybe not all teams and coder are at Pli level or have so high intelligence or skill but it is not nice your way.

There was nothing misleading or untrue about my earlier statement, blackhole are still a closed source team in direct violation of GPL and that is unlikely to change. This new image which is based on pli is however open source and I applaud that, but this is only a side project and they will never release the source for the main BH image. They did not even release the source for their earlier Pli based blackpole image line again in direct conflict with GPL.