56 replies to this topic

[Pike_Bishop]

Hi,

Many Users they use the last Pli Images (cirka from last two Weeks) have the Problem that to spool records forward
or rewind goes only up to aight times.
When they will spool to exemple forward sixteen times it comes to a freezed Picture.
But older records they was Users have made with older PLI Images they can correct spool forward and rewind
from speed two times up to hundredandtwentyaight times with this last PLI Images.

Please PLI Team can you verify this Problem ?

regards
Biki3

[Pike_Bishop]

Hi Guys,

It's a problem with the additional files they were created when we start a record !
As example;
film.ts.ap
film.ts.cuts
film.ts.meta
film.ts.sc
film.eit

When i remove the files;
film.ts.ap
film.ts.cuts
film.ts.sc
and created the files with Plugin Reconstructapsc or with Plugin EnhancedMovieCenter again
and then play the record again i can spool this record now absolutely correct with speed two times up to hundredandtwentyaight times.

PLI Team -> Can you fix this ?

regards
Biki3

Edited by Biki3, 29 October 2011 - 11:28.

[Frogman]

i've noticed also this problem with the new 3.0.3-based image. And the way Biki3 has described works for me - after reconstructing all *.ap/*.sc files the spooling is correct up to 128x. With the original ones spooling works just up to 8x, after that there are fixed stuttered images.

Edited by Steffen, 29 October 2011 - 12:54.

[mcbain]

I'm experiencing the same problems mentioned by Biki3 with fast forwading or rewinding movies with 8x+. The fix described in post 2 is working in the meantime.

Looking forward to get this fixed in one of the following releases. Thanks!

Edited by mcbain, 29 October 2011 - 13:23.

[MiLo]

Just tried to reproduce this. Made a recording with the et9x00 (on a USB stick) of about 5 minutes (HD recording of an encrypted channel).
Fast forward etc. works just fine, up to 128x.

Renamed the .ap.sc and .ts.sc files, so they weren't available.
Fast forward works only until about 8x as you described.

Re-created the .ap and .sc files with the plugin.
Fast forward works okay again.

Compared the files that the plugin created to the ones I renamed (which were originally written). They are identical, bit for bit.


So how DO I reproduce your problem?

Edited by MiLo, 29 October 2011 - 14:14.

[MiLo]

Browsed to the dm8k in the living room, and most (if not all?) recordings there have that problem, even ones that were recorded months ago. So it looks like the problem is in the et9x00 image itself, running the plugin "fixes" it by making the same mistake maybe...

[MiLo]

Yep, the 7025 can play them back just fine.

[Frogman]

in my case the orginal *.ap and *.sc files are different from the new ones recreated with the plugin... :-/

[MiLo]

I bet that what you record NOW is just fine, it's only the recordings that you made a while ago that show this problem.

[MiLo]

Stranger still... I take that USB stick and put it into the VU+uno, and play back the recording. It can't load the ap/sc files and fast-forward fails.

Run that plugin on the VU+uno, and I get exactly the same files back as I had before. And fast-forward/rewind still does not work at all. So unlike the ET9000, the recording cannot be repaired by the plugin. Weird.

[Frogman]

i think the problem ist the Moviecut-Plugin which writes the cut marks into a new file. I just test the same you described before. A new recording is ok (with identical *.ap and *.sc files cpmpared to that one which has been reconstructed with the plugin). But all recordings which show the error has been cutted before with the Cutlist-Editor and the MovieCut-Plugin. Maybe the plugins don't write the correct *.ap and *-sc files?

Edited by Steffen, 29 October 2011 - 14:59.

[Peppino]

Hi,

Many Users they use the last Pli Images (cirka from last two Weeks) have the Problem that to spool records forward
or rewind goes only up to aight times.
When they will spool to exemple forward sixteen times it comes to a freezed Picture.
But older records they was Users have made with older PLI Images they can correct spool forward and rewind
from speed two times up to hundredandtwentyaight times with this last PLI Images.

Please PLI Team can you verify this Problem ?

regards
Biki3

I have the same problem and additional: recordings in HD over 8x forward make no difference between old or new, it is only a freezed picture.

I have not the Moviecut-Plugin..

Edited by Peppino, 29 October 2011 - 15:13.

[Pike_Bishop]

Hi,

I have not the Moviecut-Plugin..

Yes you are right -> i can confirm this, it's not a Problem with Moviecut Plugin !

@MiLo
Can you test a record from rtl transponder ?
Maybe the Spooling Problem comes only with records of specific transponders.
Here i have several records from channel Rtl2 they have the Spooling Problem.
This records are from date 25 up to 28.October 2011.

regards
Biki3

[Peppino]

Can you test a record from rtl transponder ?
Maybe the Spooling Problem comes only with records of specific transponders.

Sorry Biki3, but I have a record of BR 3 with the same errors. It's not only the RTL transponder.

[Pike_Bishop]

Hi peppino,

Yes you are right -> i have testet last night a little bit as following;

The spooling problem higher than 8x i found not in records of the following channels;
Das Erste (Ard)
Zdf
Zdf HD
Atv
Puls4
Pro Sieben
Kabel 1 Austria
Sky Nostalgie
Eins Extra

The records from following channels however have the spooling problem higher than 8x
Rtl
Rtl 2
Super Rtl
Vox
Phoenix

but the channel Phoenix is on same transponder as channel Eins Extra
so that we can don't say it's a specific transponder problem.

regards
Biki3

Edited by Biki3, 30 October 2011 - 12:54.

[Pike_Bishop]

The records i have testet last night i have maked all new last night !

regards
Biki3

[Pike_Bishop]

@MiLo

I bet that what you record NOW is just fine, it's only the recordings that you made a while ago that show this problem.

That's not right, this bet you have lost

So it looks like the problem is in the et9x00 image itself

Users with PLI Image have this problem too.

regards
Biki3

Edited by Biki3, 30 October 2011 - 14:30.

[Pike_Bishop]

Hi,

Nothing interest for a solution to this problem ?

regards
Biki3

[littlesat]

Did you try... as far I saw there were some commits yesterday.

[Pike_Bishop]

Hi littlesat,

as far I saw there were some commits yesterday.

Yes you are right i have read it -> it shall be fixed with the PLI Update from today.

Thanks littlesat and also for the rest of PLI Team.

regards
Biki3

Edited by Biki3, 1 November 2011 - 17:18.