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Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1861 amarok4

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Posted 18 November 2023 - 20:56

progress but not yet decoding PMT



Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1862 lacierva

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progress but not yet decoding PMT

really hope this can be achieved

editing lamedb is a laborious process when using motor settings,

keep up the good work !!



Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1863 EnoSat

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Posted 12 December 2023 - 18:54

Sorry about that, looks like a spaces and tabs mixups:

which can cause an error

TypeError: string argument without an encoding



Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1864 EnoSat

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Posted 12 December 2023 - 21:14

from Py2
root@dm920:~# python -V
Python 2.7.11
root@dm920:~# /usr/bin/python -u /usr/bin/bbc_pmt_v6.py -t short -d /dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0
capmtType: short, demux: /dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0
currentSid: 0x4440
trying with demux /dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0
pmtPid: 0x17d4
0x9f 0x80 0x32 0x1e 0x03 0x44 0x40 0x09 0x00 0x13 0x01 0x81 0x08 0x0c 0xfd 0xac 0xe7 0x10 0x00 0x00 0x01 0x82 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x84 0x02 0x17 0xd4 0x0d 0x17 0xd4 0x00 0x00
Time received: Tue 2023-12-12  21:12:31.342
currentSid: 0x1200
trying with demux /dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0
pmtPid: 0x02bc
0x9f 0x80 0x32 0x1e 0x03 0x12 0x00 0x09 0x00 0x13 0x01 0x81 0x08 0x0c 0xfd 0xac 0xe7 0x10 0x00 0x00 0x01 0x82 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x84 0x02 0x02 0xbc 0x0d 0x02 0xbc 0x00 0x00
Time received: Tue 2023-12-12  21:12:39.487
currentSid: 0x46c0
trying with demux /dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0
pmtPid: 0x1bbc
0x9f 0x80 0x32 0x1e 0x03 0x46 0xc0 0x09 0x00 0x13 0x01 0x81 0x08 0x0c 0xfd 0xac 0xe7 0x10 0x00 0x00 0x01 0x82 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x84 0x02 0x1b 0xbc 0x0d 0x1b 0xbc 0x00 0x00
Time received: Tue 2023-12-12  21:12:51.984
from Py3
pythonroot@osmio4kplus:~# python -V
Python 3.11.2
=== starting bbc_pmt_v6.py -t short -d /dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0
capmtType: short, demux: /dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0
currentSid: 0x4f20
trying with demux /dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0
Error(110): read (PID 0x0000): Connection timed out
currentSid: 0x4f20
trying with demux /dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0
Error(110): read (PID 0x0000): Connection timed out
currentSid: 0x4f20
trying with demux /dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0
Error(110): read (PID 0x0000): Connection timed out
currentSid: 0x4f20
trying with demux /dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0
Error(110): read (PID 0x0000): Connection timed out
currentSid: 0x4f20
trying with demux /dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0
pmtPid: 0x1d4c
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/bbc_pmt_v6.py", line 96, in <module>
    capmt = bytearray("\x9f\x80\x32\x00\x03") # capmt start
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
TypeError: string argument without an encoding
=== bbc_pmt_v6.py -t short -d /dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0 exited...

Edited by EnoSat, 12 December 2023 - 21:18.


Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1865 EnoSat

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Posted 12 December 2023 - 21:49

  char *caPMT = (char *) calloc(1024, 1);
  int length_field;
  int toWrite;
  caPMT[0] = 0x9F;
  caPMT[1] = 0x80;
  caPMT[2] = 0x32;
  caPMT[3] = 0x82; //2 following bytes for size
...

campt in Py3 has zero length 0x00 , while in Py2 it has length 0x1e



Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1866 WanWizard

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Posted 12 December 2023 - 22:01

You're passing a string to bytearray, not a sequence of bytes.

    capmt = bytearray(b'\x9f\x80\x32\x00\x03') # capmt start

In Python 3 there is a difference between string and bytes.


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Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1867 EnoSat

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Posted 12 December 2023 - 22:11

zero length/size means that the SID and other data will not be transferred to the campt


Edited by EnoSat, 12 December 2023 - 22:12.


Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1868 EnoSat

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Posted 12 December 2023 - 22:46

Parsing PMT objects
9f 80 32 1e 03 44 40 09 00 13 01 81 08 0c fd ac e7 10 00 00 01 82 02 01 00 84 02 17 d4 0d 17 d4 00 00
capmt
03 44 40 09 00 13 01
81 08 0c fd ac e7 10 00 00 01 //enigma_namespace_descriptor
82 02 01 00 //demux_ca_mask_device_descriptor
84 02 17 d4 //pmt_pid-descriptor
0d 17 d4 00 00


Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1869 sleepy

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Posted 29 December 2023 - 16:22

I apologise if this question will appear lame and/or very old.
Actually, I have seen right now (I am writing this on top, but as last edit to my post) that I already put this question a couple of years ago, but I received no answer.

 

I am getting Satback OK since the very first moment the remedy was found by doublet&C.. So, no problem in this.

I can also (usually) edit lamedb properly to achieve the result.

 

But if I then edit my channels with DreamBoxEdit (7.2.1.0), some of the extra parameters get stripped.

This is very inconvenient, since reduces a lot my flexibility to update the channel list, other than from the receiver itself.

 

Even in this thread (very many many) pages up (page 4), at the time when the trick had not been discovered robbie says that DreamBoxEdit keeps all extra options.

 

But this does not happen in my case, at least not in the way I am using it (pretty standard: load->edit->save, and then the standard procedure to upload it to the receiver by FTP).
After saving, some extra options are not there any more and lamedb needs some editing (again).

 

Am I missing something? Is there a way/other software to freely edit the channels without damaging BBC entries after the first necessary editing "by hand" in lamedb?

 

Thank you!



Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1870 EnoSat

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Posted 6 January 2024 - 17:05

It's easier to use in Py3
 
based on OpenPli with oscam.dvbapi:

4500:0cfdace7:1000:0001:25:0:0
Channel 4 HD
p:BBC,c:16189c,f:400

based on OpenPli without oscam.dvbapi:

4500:0cfdace7:1000:0001:25:0:0
Channel 4 HD
p:BBC,c:16189c,C:2600,f:400

 
 
based on OpenATV with oscam.dvbapi:

4500:0cfdace7:1000:0001:25:0:0
Channel 4 HD
p:BBC,c:19189c,f:400

based on OpenATV without oscam.dvbapi:

4500:0cfdace7:1000:0001:25:0:0
Channel 4 HD
p:BBC,c:19189c,C:2600,f:400

 
However, this is still a user intervention in the lamedb file  :huh:
DreamboxEdit is an old program, some c: are causing it problems.


Edited by EnoSat, 6 January 2024 - 17:06.


Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1871 Robinson

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Posted 4 February 2024 - 01:02

Do you get subtitles on ITV HD with these parameters in lamedb?

44c8:0cfdace7:1000:0001:25:0:0
ITV HD
p:satback,c:001839,c:031839,c:050001,c:0918390101,c:100004,c:11183a,c:12183a,C:2600,f:1405

 
 


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Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1872 Huevos

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Posted 4 February 2024 - 01:08

It looks like 27.5W Satback will soon be removed. A new transponder has been opened on 15W carrying an exact copy of the transponder on 27W.



Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1873 sexton

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Posted 4 February 2024 - 10:10

It looks like 27.5W Satback will soon be removed. A new transponder has been opened on 15W carrying an exact copy of the transponder on 27W.

Spending my days scouring the net for the softcam keys etc.



Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1874 sleepy

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Posted 4 February 2024 - 10:47

It seems to be a transponder very difficult to catch outside roughly the area normally served by the original FreeSat service.
It is a no go for East/SE Europe.

It is also interfered with by signals at near frequencies on different beams of the same satellite. So, a 15 m dish might not help if you are in the wrong place.

 

I fear it was good until it (will) last.

 

I seize the occasion to send again many thanks to the people who here helped to have this service available soon after FreeSat transferred in its narrow beam.

 

I still hope that someone can come out with a similar new bright idea, at least for the people in the right places for this new service, but no one can easily fight against physics for the others.



Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1875 erojohn

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Posted 4 February 2024 - 13:29

Hi.

 

I just checked 15W here from Denmark and i have no signa lock on that new TP.

The EU beams have a fine signal.

 

Are we sure this is a normal DVB-S2 signal and not a IP stream or DVB-S2X ?

 

Is anyone getting a lock on that TP ?

 

Cheers



Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1876 sleepy

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Posted 4 February 2024 - 15:47

It should be a normal S2 carrier.

 

People in the right place (not me) like you are able to get a lock on it.

In some moments the TP has briefly been off, so that can be an option.



Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1877 EnoSat

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Posted 4 February 2024 - 16:41

In Denmark, the NorthSea beam can already be interfered with by the MedCentral beam

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Edited by EnoSat, 4 February 2024 - 16:44.


Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1878 EnoSat

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Posted 4 February 2024 - 16:48

Do you get subtitles on ITV HD with these parameters in lamedb?

p:satback,c:001839,c:031839,c:050001,c:0918390101,c:100004,c:11183a,c:12183a,C:2600,f:1405

PID 1839 does not contain subtitles
 

based on OpenPli with oscam.dvbapi:

44c8:0cfdace7:1000:0001:25:0:0
ITV HD
p:BBC,c:161838,f:400

based on OpenPli without oscam.dvbapi:

44c8:0cfdace7:1000:0001:25:0:0
ITV HD
p:BBC,c:161838,C:2600,f:400

 
 
based on OpenATV with oscam.dvbapi:

44c8:0cfdace7:1000:0001:25:0:0
ITV HD
p:BBC,c:191838,f:400

based on OpenATV without oscam.dvbapi:

44c8:0cfdace7:1000:0001:25:0:0
ITV HD
p:BBC,c:191838,C:2600,f:400

Edited by EnoSat, 4 February 2024 - 16:55.


Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1879 sexton

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Do you get subtitles on ITV HD with these parameters in lamedb?

p:satback,c:001839,c:031839,c:050001,c:0918390101,c:100004,c:11183a,c:12183a,C:2600,f:1405

PID 1839 does not contain subtitles
 

based on OpenPli with oscam.dvbapi:

44c8:0cfdace7:1000:0001:25:0:0
ITV HD
p:BBC,c:161838,f:400

based on OpenPli without oscam.dvbapi:

44c8:0cfdace7:1000:0001:25:0:0
ITV HD
p:BBC,c:161838,C:2600,f:400

 
 
based on OpenATV with oscam.dvbapi:

44c8:0cfdace7:1000:0001:25:0:0
ITV HD
p:BBC,c:191838,f:400

based on OpenATV without oscam.dvbapi:

44c8:0cfdace7:1000:0001:25:0:0
ITV HD
p:BBC,c:191838,C:2600,f:400

Where do I find bbc_pmt_v6.py? I'd like to give it a try as I seem to have a mixed up lamedb probably full of redundant parameters. Should lamedb be different for OpenATV and OpenPli?



Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1880 erojohn

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Posted 6 February 2024 - 17:03

In Denmark, the NorthSea beam can already be interfered with by the MedCentral beam

attachicon.gif capture_002_04022024_163924.pngattachicon.gif capture_001_04022024_163904.png

 

Hi EnoSat.

 

Ive done a bit more testing, and i do see a signal on 11044V, and can see its a QPSK at 44110 SR and 9/10.

It is too weak to get a signal lock for channel search. There is a signal right below it with out any guardband, maybe thats a signal from the Medcentral beam.

I will do some more testing, and report back, if im able to get any more useful data.

 

Cheers




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