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Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1881 EnoSat

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Posted 6 February 2024 - 22:59

Where do I find bbc_pmt_v6.py? I'd like to give it a try as I seem to have a mixed up lamedb probably full of redundant parameters. Should lamedb be different for OpenATV and OpenPli?

The script works correctly only in Py2.



Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1882 erojohn

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In Denmark, the NorthSea beam can already be interfered with by the MedCentral beam
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Hi EnoSat.

Ive done a bit more testing, and i do see a signal on 11044V, and can see its a QPSK at 44110 SR and 9/10.
It is too weak to get a signal lock for channel search. There is a signal right below it with out any guardband, maybe thats a signal from the Medcentral beam.
I will do some more testing, and report back, if im able to get any more useful data.

Cheers

This morning the signal locks and I can now confirm the channels are there. But it's having a hard time keeping the signal lock.

Cheers

Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1883 sexton

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Posted 7 February 2024 - 14:18

 

Where do I find bbc_pmt_v6.py? I'd like to give it a try as I seem to have a mixed up lamedb probably full of redundant parameters. Should lamedb be different for OpenATV and OpenPli?

The script works correctly only in Py2.

 

Thanks for the info, I found it and tried this morning on my Zgemma h9s with OpenPli but didn't get far.

 

 I would really like to find a comprehensive explanation of how lamedb is derived as I have two boxes that both decode 27.5w but have entries  that differ.

 
Octagon sf8008 supreme openatv
p:satback,c:001839,c:031839,c:050001,c:0918390101,c:100004,c:11183a,c:12183a,C:2600,f:1005
Zgemma h9s openpli
p:BBC,     c:001839,c:031839,c:050001,c:09183d0101, c:12183a,c:161838,f:1400  (from your post)


Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1884 erojohn

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Posted 7 February 2024 - 16:09

In Denmark, the NorthSea beam can already be interfered with by the MedCentral beam
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Hi EnoSat.

Ive done a bit more testing, and i do see a signal on 11044V, and can see its a QPSK at 44110 SR and 9/10.
It is too weak to get a signal lock for channel search. There is a signal right below it with out any guardband, maybe thats a signal from the Medcentral beam.
I will do some more testing, and report back, if im able to get any more useful data.

Cheers


This morning the signal locks and I can now confirm the channels are there. But it's having a hard time keeping the signal lock.

Cheers

 
Here are 2 pictures of the V and H spectrum around 11043. Its clear to see there is another signal colliding with the Freeview TP, and that its not a skew problem. (yes my screen needs a cleaning)

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Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1885 EnoSat

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Posted 7 February 2024 - 22:11

The problem is not V/H, but 11043V North Sea vs. 11014V EuroSpot 2 (MedCentral)



Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1886 EnoSat

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Posted 7 February 2024 - 22:18

p:satback,c:001839,c:031839,c:050001,c:0918390101,c:100004,c:11183a,c:12183a,C:2600,f:1005
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p:BBC,     c:001839,c:031839,c:050001,c:09183d0101, c:12183a,c:161838,f:1400  (from your post)

f:4 (f:1005) - A/V PIDs must be entered
f:400 (f:1400) - A/V PIDs do not need to be specified

the description of parameter f is also given on this forum, just look it up



Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1887 Robinson

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Posted 7 February 2024 - 23:48

f:4 (f:1005) - A/V PIDs must be entered
f:400 (f:1400) - A/V PIDs do not need to be specified

Is f:4 equal to f:1005?

Is f:400 equal to f:1400?


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Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1888 EnoSat

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Posted 8 February 2024 - 00:51

1005 = f:1 + f:4 + f:1000
1400 = f:400 + f:1000


Edited by EnoSat, 8 February 2024 - 00:52.


Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1889 Huevos

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Posted 8 February 2024 - 12:02

 

p:satback,c:001839,c:031839,c:050001,c:0918390101,c:100004,c:11183a,c:12183a,C:2600,f:1005
vs
p:BBC,     c:001839,c:031839,c:050001,c:09183d0101, c:12183a,c:161838,f:1400  (from your post)

f:4 (f:1005) - A/V PIDs must be entered
f:400 (f:1400) - A/V PIDs do not need to be specified

the description of parameter f is also given on this forum, just look it up

 

"f" means "flag".

 

I documented this as best I could a few years ago.

 

https://github.com/o...E.txt#L501-L624



Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1890 Robinson

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Posted 8 February 2024 - 13:41

Thanks Huevos, 

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

lamedb cached PID data
----------------------

c:00xxxx = video pid
c:01xxxx = audio pid (MPEG)
c:02xxxx = Teletext pid
c:03xxxx = PCR pid
c:04xxxx = audio pid (AC3)

c:100007 + c:11xxxx = audio pid (AC3+) ???
c:100004 + c:11xxxx = audio pid (HE-AAC) ???

c:10xxxx = cached volume level ???

c:11xxxx = audio pid (AAC)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

lamedb service flags
--------------------

dxNoSDT=1,    // don't fetch SDT
dxDontshow=2, // don't show service in all services list
dxNoDVB=4,  // dont use PMT for this service ( use cached pids )
dxHoldName=8, // don't change service name if label differs in the SDT
dxNewFound=64, // show in last scanned bouquet ( until next restart )
dxIsDedicated3D=128, // 3D channel
dxIsParentalProtected=256, // service with parental protection
dxHideVBI=512, // Hide VBI line (dotted line along top of screen on some channels )
dxIsScrambledPMT=1024, // identical to dxNoDVB when used in pmt.cpp and in servicedvbstream.cpp used to record cached pids
dxCenterDVBSubs=2048, // Centre DVB subtitles
dxNoEIT=4096, // disable EIT event parsing when using EPG_IMPORT

It is a bit different from what EnoSat is saying. 

Your "numbers" look binary. But f:400 and f:1000 do not seem binary but I am not a coder, so I may not understand it all. 


Edited by Robinson, 8 February 2024 - 13:41.

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Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1891 EnoSat

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Posted 8 February 2024 - 15:12

Because Huevos wrote it for you in DEC, but you have to enter it in the file in HEX



Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1892 EnoSat

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Posted 8 February 2024 - 15:32

as I wrote in post 1886, a simple description is also here on the forum, but no one is allowed to use the Search

https://forums.openp...-2#entry1383580



Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1893 Huevos

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Posted 9 February 2024 - 00:50

Because Huevos wrote it for you in DEC, but you have to enter it in the file in HEX

The flags are in dec in the C++ code.

 

https://github.com/O...dvb.h#L321-L330

 

Just not in lamedb.


Edited by Huevos, 9 February 2024 - 00:53.


Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1894 ManoloMos

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Posted 9 February 2024 - 01:42

Do you get subtitles on ITV HD with these parameters in lamedb?

44c8:0cfdace7:1000:0001:25:0:0
ITV HD
p:satback,c:001839,c:031839,c:050001,c:0918390101,c:100004,c:11183a,c:12183a,C:2600,f:1405

 
 

 

Yes, I see subtitles on my Dreambox DM800se. These are the lines:

 

44c8:0cfdace7:1000:0001:25:0:0
ITV1 HD
p:ITV,c:001839,c:031839,c:050001,c:09183d0101,c:12183a,C:2600,f:5


Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1895 EnoSat

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Posted 9 February 2024 - 08:39

Yes, since you entered a different PID than Robinson



Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1896 sexton

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Posted 9 February 2024 - 08:49

 

Where do I find bbc_pmt_v6.py? I'd like to give it a try as I seem to have a mixed up lamedb probably full of redundant parameters. Should lamedb be different for OpenATV and OpenPli?

The script works correctly only in Py2.

 

 I think I got it working but what should be happening to the data?
Is  "/tmp/camd.socket" the right place for OpenPLi 9.0?
 
The data is received if I run my own server.
 
root@h9:~# python sockserver.py 
Server listening on /tmp/camd.socket
Received raw data from client: b'\x9f\x802F\x03F\x00\x01\x00"\x01\x81\x08\x0c\xfd\xac\xe7\x10\x00\x00\x01\x82\x02\x01\x00\x84\x02\x00\x00\t\x04&\x00\x1f\xff\x85\x04\x00\x00\x00\x01\x86\x01\x00\x02\x1bY\x00\x00\x06\x1bY\x00\x00\x06\x1b]\x00\x00\x00\x00\x04\x00\x00\x00\x1bZ\x00\x00\x06\x1bZ\x00\x00'
 
 
 
currentSid: 0x4440
trying with demux /dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0
pmtPid: 0x17d4
0x9f 0x80 0x32 0x1e 0x03 0x44 0x40 0x09 0x00 0x13 0x01 0x81 0x08 0x0c 0xfd 0xac 0xe7 0x10 0x00 0x00 0x01 0x82 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x84 0x02 0x17 0xd4 0x0d 0x17 0xd4 0x00 0x00
Error(110): read (PID 0x17d4): Connection timed out
 
currentSid: 0x4600
trying with demux /dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0
pmtPid: 0x1b58
0x9f 0x80 0x32 0x1e 0x03 0x46 0x00 0x09 0x00 0x13 0x01 0x81 0x08 0x0c 0xfd 0xac 0xe7 0x10 0x00 0x00 0x01 0x82 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x84 0x02 0x1b 0x58 0x0d 0x1b 0x58 0x00 0x00
Error(110): read (PID 0x1b58): Connection timed out


Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1897 Robinson

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Posted 9 February 2024 - 12:38

Because Huevos wrote it for you in DEC, but you have to enter it in the file in HEX

 

Thanks. Now I see. :) 


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Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1898 Robinson

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Posted 9 February 2024 - 12:39

 

Do you get subtitles on ITV HD with these parameters in lamedb?

44c8:0cfdace7:1000:0001:25:0:0
ITV HD
p:satback,c:001839,c:031839,c:050001,c:0918390101,c:100004,c:11183a,c:12183a,C:2600,f:1405

 

Yes, I see subtitles on my Dreambox DM800se. These are the lines:

 

44c8:0cfdace7:1000:0001:25:0:0
ITV1 HD
p:ITV,c:001839,c:031839,c:050001,c:09183d0101,c:12183a,C:2600,f:5

 

 

Thanks. I had an error in my c:09 entry. 


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Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1899 v12nut

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Posted 4 April 2024 - 17:50

anyone else lost 27.5w? I have no signal in northern Spain



Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #1900 bloke76

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Posted 4 April 2024 - 18:01

same here. I first thought the signal has gone due to heavy storms over here and the dish has been moved. 

but unable to get it back, seems that the transponder has been switched off. 

we need to move to telstar now, well. if you are in the region for the footprint.




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