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Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #821 v12nut

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Posted 28 December 2014 - 21:23

So I understand you have the same picture on all three?

That is correct.



Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #822 Robinson

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Posted 28 December 2014 - 22:02

Hi doublet,

Great to have you back!

 

To add more contol, I've made new version of script which doesn't check whether PMT is broadcast in clear.

 

And it will not have any bad cosequences when PMT is one day indeed clear?


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Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #823 Micky

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 02:57

 

Can you please specify all PID's etc. for both these services?

I believe there used to be something called 303 too. Does it work?

I'm curious because this site does not specify and PID values for 302: http://pl.kingofsat.net/pos-27.5W.php

302                                                301                                          Red Button

 

VID   0x0385 (901d)                         "                                                   "

AUD  0x03b7 (951d)                          "                                                 "

TSID  0x1000 (4096d)                       "                                                 "

ONID 0x0001 (1d)                            "                                                 "

SID    0x1c40 (7232d)                     0x1c00 (7168d)                       0x1140 (4416d)

 

Ok, thanks.

 

301 is working with picture and sound. 302 did nothing. No picture, no sound. I think I have a problem with lamedb or the key file.

 

 

Micky


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Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #824 Micky

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 03:19

Guys,

 

sorry for not being here, I was too busy with other things and on my setup (DMM E2 with script in short mode) all is working stable.

 

Timeout mentioned in previous posts is used as argument to dvbsnoop to tell him how long he has to wait for particular section.

After zap is done, we are waiting for PAT section to obtain PMT PID number. When PAT is received, we try to receive PMT section to know whether PMT is scrambled or not. Reason for this is the fact, that in the past there were time periods when PMT was broadcast in clear.

 

To add more contol, I've made new version of script which doesn't check whether PMT is broadcast in clear. So you will never see that "timeout" in script's output, which was always seen and which indicated that PMT is scrambled. To have original behavior (i.e. check for PMT broadcast in clear), add -c option to command line.

 

To play with different timeout values, I've added -s option followed by timeout (in ms).

 

So to start script with PMT check (old behavior) and timeout of 100 ms in long mode:

bbc_pmt_v6.py -t long -d /dev/dvb/adapter0/demux3 -c -s 100

Adapt scriptName line in bbc_pmt_starter.sh according your needs.

 

attachicon.gifbbc_pmt_v6.zip

Hi Doublet,

 

thanks to be back.

 

I see my idea with the value from timeout was correct. :)

 

 

Micky


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Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #825 v12nut

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 13:54

 

 

Can you please specify all PID's etc. for both these services?

I believe there used to be something called 303 too. Does it work?

I'm curious because this site does not specify and PID values for 302: http://pl.kingofsat.net/pos-27.5W.php

302                                                301                                          Red Button

 

VID   0x0385 (901d)                         "                                                   "

AUD  0x03b7 (951d)                          "                                                 "

TSID  0x1000 (4096d)                       "                                                 "

ONID 0x0001 (1d)                            "                                                 "

SID    0x1c40 (7232d)                     0x1c00 (7168d)                       0x1140 (4416d)

 

Ok, thanks.

 

301 is working with picture and sound. 302 did nothing. No picture, no sound. I think I have a problem with lamedb or the key file.

 

 

Micky

 

this is my lameb settings

302
p:BBC,c:000385,c:0103b7,c:030385,C:2600,f:4
1044:0cfdace7:1000:0001:1:0

 

BBC Red Button
p:BBC,c:000385,c:0103b7,c:030385,C:2600,f:4
1240:0cfdace7:1000:0001:1:0



Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #826 Micky

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 14:17

 

 

 

Can you please specify all PID's etc. for both these services?

I believe there used to be something called 303 too. Does it work?

I'm curious because this site does not specify and PID values for 302: http://pl.kingofsat.net/pos-27.5W.php

302                                                301                                          Red Button

 

VID   0x0385 (901d)                         "                                                   "

AUD  0x03b7 (951d)                          "                                                 "

TSID  0x1000 (4096d)                       "                                                 "

ONID 0x0001 (1d)                            "                                                 "

SID    0x1c40 (7232d)                     0x1c00 (7168d)                       0x1140 (4416d)

 

Ok, thanks.

 

301 is working with picture and sound. 302 did nothing. No picture, no sound. I think I have a problem with lamedb or the key file.

 

 

Micky

 

this is my lameb settings

302
p:BBC,c:000385,c:0103b7,c:030385,C:2600,f:4
1044:0cfdace7:1000:0001:1:0

 

BBC Red Button
p:BBC,c:000385,c:0103b7,c:030385,C:2600,f:4
1240:0cfdace7:1000:0001:1:0

 

I have this settings. I have a problem with PMT for this channel.

 

 

Micky


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Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #827 doublet

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 15:56

Hi doublet,

Great to have you back!

 

To add more contol, I've made new version of script which doesn't check whether PMT is broadcast in clear.

 

And it will not have any bad cosequences when PMT is one day indeed clear?

 

Hi Robinson,

I don't know. We'll see. I started to develop the script once they start to scramble PMT last time, so I had no chance to test it with clear PMT. However, there is -c option to have old behavior.... or script can be removed completely because it is not needed with PMT broadcast in clear.



Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #828 pecorazza

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 19:31

@ doublet

Good to have you back mate :-)



Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #829 Robinson

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 23:24

this is my lameb settings

302
p:BBC,c:000385,c:0103b7,c:030385,C:2600,f:4
1044:0cfdace7:1000:0001:1:0

 

BBC Red Button
p:BBC,c:000385,c:0103b7,c:030385,C:2600,f:4
1240:0cfdace7:1000:0001:1:0

 

Hi v12nut, there is no point in making artificial copies of the same channel. In this way, you can have 20 x ITV1 but what for? With these settings you will never get different channels on 301, 302, Red Button - always identical picture and sound.

By the way, I assume there is no schedule (TV guide) for the Red Button as watched at 27.5W?


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Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #830 Micky

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 01:18

This is correct, but why has the sound different values?

 

 

Micky


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Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #831 v12nut

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 12:51

 

this is my lameb settings

302
p:BBC,c:000385,c:0103b7,c:030385,C:2600,f:4
1044:0cfdace7:1000:0001:1:0

 

BBC Red Button
p:BBC,c:000385,c:0103b7,c:030385,C:2600,f:4
1240:0cfdace7:1000:0001:1:0

 

Hi v12nut, there is no point in making artificial copies of the same channel. In this way, you can have 20 x ITV1 but what for? With these settings you will never get different channels on 301, 302, Red Button - always identical picture and sound.

By the way, I assume there is no schedule (TV guide) for the Red Button as watched at 27.5W?

 

Hi Robinson,

Firstly, I did not 'artificialy' create these, as Micky said there are different sound values. I think this is how its supposed to be.

Usually, the BBC offers one stream on the red button, but can on occasion increase the number of available streams for special events, such as the Olympics, this may further clarify matters http://www.bbc.co.uk...301and302.shtml



Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #832 Micky

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 21:39

Ah, ok. It's for other streams. How did they manage it to send 3 different films on 3 channels with the same values? Except for the sound.

 

 

Micky


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Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #833 Robinson

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 22:42

Not possible. It must be a mistake, ie. this mux has only one Red Button channel or the video PID's are wrong.

By the way, where are those different audio PID's?

As far as I understand v12nut's post, both video and audio PID's are identical. It is just SID's that are different.


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Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #834 Micky

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 01:02

Ok, my mistake. I thought SID means Sound ID. But it is: Service Identifier.

 

 

Micky


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Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #835 Robinson

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 09:52

So, as I said before, no point in copying identical V&A pids to the other SID's.


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Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #836 Robertooo

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 21:36

Has the channels service references changed? Because my picons don't download correctly and my channels don't open with y mod. I've tried with BBC_pmt_v6.zip too but i can't watch bbc channels now :(



Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #837 datripsta

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Posted 2 January 2015 - 01:16

Ive got problems with automatic settings updater overwriting Lamedb then I have to manually update Lamedb to get 27.5 back. Is there any script available that can be run which updates Lame DB with values for 27.5w. I understand the logic needed but I've never done any scripting needed for this - a bit of lite VBA here and there in XL which is far from whats needed.


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Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #838 maxi

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Posted 2 January 2015 - 13:20

Works for me too on a Gigablue Quad.

 

Also setting up a new Octagon SF8 which is very similar to the XP1000 but having to trawl through all the mode and demux combinations to see which works.

 

Anyone able to tell me the mode and demux would save me quite a bit of time.

 

You can see these channels with this Octagon?



Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #839 lacierva

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Posted 3 January 2015 - 00:50

Ive got problems with automatic settings updater overwriting Lamedb then I have to manually update Lamedb to get 27.5 back. Is there any script available that can be run which updates Lame DB with values for 27.5w. I understand the logic needed but I've never done any scripting needed for this - a bit of lite VBA here and there in XL which is far from whats needed.

this would be great,

updating settings does indeed upset lamedb file



Re: Enigma2 and BBC/ITV at 27.5W Intelsat - a big challenge #840 lacierva

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Posted 4 January 2015 - 21:19

does anyone have an up to date lamedb file that includes film4+1, trying to edit the file but i think my settings for this chanel are not correct or i am editing it wrongly ?




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