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[Lost in Space]

My answer was not as arrogant and ignorant as you are suggesting. I simply pointed out that it is hard to get me excited in this area.

 

And my advice was not a bad one - you can now write a simple shell script which does init S rmmod of all your drivers and then modprobes them again and tries to bring your box back to runleverl 3.

 

IF your drivers survive this procedure (and are realy successfull unloaded - check output and dmesg or better bootlog for verification) at least 2 times in a row, then you have a reasonable fair chance to get a successfull kernel switch with kexec if you solve all the other problems.

 

If not, then you better forget it, because switching the vanilla kernel with kexec gives only a few seconds advantages to completely stop existing one, reset hardware and boot a new one (=hard reboot)  with then newly and successfully loaded and drivers without the above problems.

 

BTW that is bootmode wobble in Barry Allen if you want to seen and check out how to do this.

Edited by gutemine, 9 January 2014 - 12:07.

[cobus]

I hope the guys had something now, and be grateful that you still could do for them.

 

Thanks

[Lost in Space]

You are still not getting the point how innovation and exploration works.

 

It is not telling others about how to make fire, it is about NOT running away scared when the lightning bolt sets a tree into fire.

 

Or if this sounds more familiar:

 

To explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life forms and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before.

Edited by gutemine, 9 January 2014 - 13:27.

[pop_eye]

You are still not getting the point how innovation and exploration works.

 

It is not telling others about how to make fire, it is about NOT running away scared when the lightning bolt sets a tree into fire.

 

Or if this sounds more familiar:

 

To explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life forms and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before.

Hey gutemine, even me I started to believe you

 

The moral of the story is: 

 

If you play with fire, you get burned.

 

And if you get burned you better have a good reason to do it.

That is what exploration and discovery brings in. And on top of it you get the satisfaction if you reach your goals.

If you share it you become a God and fool in same time ...right ? The advantage is that when you get burned you

bring yourself to the next level. At least this is what I get when I do something out of ordinary.

Edited by pop_eye, 9 January 2014 - 15:53.

[Lost in Space]

Look, I'm the least person scared to get burnt.

 

But one of the secrets to be successfull is beeing efficient, which means the faster you rule out dead ends the faster you find working pathes. And this was exactly the reason why I answered originally and tried to explain the impact and consequences of their so far findings.

 

The point is not that I could do better, or have done better.

 

And I'm the last person also to cut off weird ideas.

 

One of the weird ideas I ever have had was how to finally solve the ubifs extraction problem AFTER I failed 3 times (taking experts advice btw.) - so I will NOT repeat this mistake from the other side here. And this is for the better of all involved parties!

[Persian Prince]

@athoik

 

would you please point me to needed things that i must do to support this feature even as a beta thing for PE images ? (OE , kernel , ... changes)

 

in this way at least our users/testers could test it via command line and maybe i can help in your development

[betacentauri]

You'll have to enable support in the kernel:
"CONFIG_KEXEC=y"

And also package kexec-tools must be available for the users.