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#1 lpnp

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Posted 28 May 2016 - 19:04

I can see my router (with no shares) and STB itself with CIFS shares in network browser, but I can't see the NFS shares exported by a Linux host, the Linux host isn't even listed. The same STB running OpenATV was able to detect the Linux host in network browser. I'm running OpenPLi-4.0-beta-sh1-20160528_usb.zip with no extra plugins installed, do I need to install a plugin to see NFS shares in network browser?

 

Is it possible to specify a hostname instead of an IP address when mounting? The user interface seems to only support IP addresses, but I don't want to amend the mount every time the IP changes. What's the best way to mount shares with dynamic IP?



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Posted 28 May 2016 - 20:12

Scanning is broken, and we're still thinking about a decent fix.

 

We don't like the hack OpenATV uses, which is basically simply list any device that responds. So it's not detecting a linux host, nor an NFS server. Just a device that responds at the IP level.

 

I don't know what the GUI supports, I never use it. You could test it if you manually stop enigma (using "init 4"), then edit the automount.xml and restart the box. It could be a GUI limitation.


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Posted 28 May 2016 - 20:49

So scanning works for CIFS but is broken for NFS? When do you think a fix will be available?

 

Do I need to do the following to edit the mount?

1. telnet
2. type in "init 4"
3. edit /etc/enigma2/automounts.xml
4. reboot

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Posted 29 May 2016 - 08:33

There is no functionality for scanning NFS servers and there has never been.


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Posted 29 May 2016 - 11:44

Correct. As I wrote, their code simply reports every IP that responds. That could very well be your fridge...

 

And your sequence of commands is correct.


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Posted 29 May 2016 - 16:23

For detecting NFS servers one would have to go probing portmappers on every hosts. Not only ugly, but also prone to intrusion detection and evasive actions.


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Re: Network browser not showing NFS shares #7 gorski

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Posted 29 May 2016 - 22:59

Can somebody explain to me why is it "bad" if it scans everything in the home network, please?

 

So what if I see my smart fridge or phone? I choose whether I mount them or not.

 

And even if I try, it will not work unless I allow E2 device in, on the server side.

 

OpenViX (> OpenATV etc.) system is simply better, that has to be said.

 

It sees more and it mounts better. End of, as far as I am concerned.

 

OpenPLi is a better option for older, weaker HW, it seems to me.

 

But larger, heavier OE-A images work better in newer HW.

 

Frequently, they are a bit of a mess, disorganised etc.

 

But they have loadsa tools with many options...

 

To be fair, that is...


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Posted 29 May 2016 - 23:10

You can try editing fstab in /etc folder, like so...

 

NFS shared folders (in my case, Linux based NAS):

192.168.x.x:/volume1/SharedFolderName   /media/net/sharedfoldername    nfs    _netdev,rw,nolock,tcp,nfsvers=3,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,soft    0 0

CIFS shared folders (in my case Win7 laptop):

//192.168.x.x/SharedFolderName     /media/net/sharedfolderLAPTOP    cifs    user=guest,pass=,_netdev,rw,iocharset=utf8    0 0

Save and reboot... :)


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Posted 29 May 2016 - 23:18

Btw, long ago, in my F500HD, I installed - back then - OpenPLi only (unlike now, when it uses both PLi and ViX) based PBNIGMA 3.01 and NFS scanning was fine at my end.

 

Streaming from NFS shared folders works fine, to this day...


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Re: Network browser not showing NFS shares #10 WanWizard

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Posted 30 May 2016 - 09:38

Can somebody explain to me why is it "bad" if it scans everything in the home network, please?

 

So what if I see my smart fridge or phone? I choose whether I mount them or not.

 

Because if the functionality is: display a list of NFS servers, it should display that. And not something else.

 

If you are capable of deciding what to use and what not, what your fridge is and what your NFS server, then you are also capable of entering a name or an IP address, and this functionality isn't applicable to you at all. This is about people that bought a QNAP but have no clue what an IP address is. Like the majority of the users that just have a box for watching TV.

 

Like I always say: don't look at it from your own point of view, but from the point of view of your parents (or even grand-parents).


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Re: Network browser not showing NFS shares #11 gorski

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Posted 30 May 2016 - 10:09

I agree.

 

But here - PBNIGMA (which is OpenPLi and OE-A [meaning OpenViX] based, too), it gives me a name of the device, too - so I think your example is a wrong one, with all due respect, m8. :)

 

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After testing such images (OpenPli and OpenViX based) and comparing them in some depth (for an IT lay person, i.e. from a point of view of simple and easy usability of an IT lay person), I argued to include it into PBNIGMA, for precisely this reason.

 

And this is the result: it is simple to get all the device in your home network in a list and it is even simpler to mount a shared folder, NFS or CIFS [via adding a shared folder in a device found on the home network, by pressing a button... well, maybe twice].

 

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So, precisely from a lay person's viewpoint, it is an advantage. One simply has to acknowledge this and move on forward, for the benefit of users. Everyday users.

 

And I am one and I can understand such a point of view and I write for such users, so I know about that much better than most coders, I think... ;)

 

And this is with all due respect to the coders who are giving all this to the users! :) You know I really appreciate their effort and good will!!! :wub: B)

 

But I am an educator by profession and I do know how to put myself in such shoes... ;)

 

Ergo, take it from me, OE-A system for this is better in all directions! :)

 

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Posted 30 May 2016 - 10:17

I didn't say the problem in OpenPLi shouldn't be fixed, and I didn't say it isn't easier to create mounts using a GUI.

 

All I did say was I didn't like the way OpenATV has solved it. And I stick by that.


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Posted 30 May 2016 - 10:22

OK but why exactly? (Btw, I wouldn't say you argued not to fix it etc. I know your heart lies in the right place! :) )

But my point would be that - precisely from your POV - this system (OE-A, OpenViX based) is way better, since it is simpler AND it is very, very EFFECTIVE...

 

Now, if that is the case, I see no reason why not simply include it in OpenPLi. After all, they take from you, you take from them, as you guys argued when OpenViX spat was going on here - it's natural to do that, for the benefit of users.

 

In fact, this is the beauty of it all. Don't waste your time guys, simply take this one and make your workload lighter, plus by the same token, make the whole process faster...

 

Good luck with your good work!!! :)


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lpnp, did it work, in the end and how?
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Re: Network browser not showing NFS shares #15 littlesat

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Posted 1 June 2016 - 09:34

Why do you require NFS?

 

We are also opensource but we did not join oe-a... but at anytime someone could offer us a patch....


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Posted 1 June 2016 - 11:23

Oh, dear: on a silver platter? :D

 

Isn't it possible to just get it and put it in or patch it yourselves, if needed? I am sure it's not too big a thing to do for you guys...

 

And if you are trying to write yours from scratch or even just fixing yours is on the cards - this must be much faster and a time-saver... :)


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Posted 1 June 2016 - 11:46

We don't want the OpenATV patch, I think I was already clear on that.

 

I think that it must also be clear by now that this issue isn't very high on our priority list. So if you want to have it fixed, provide a patch, or find someone who is willing to. Or wait.


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Posted 1 June 2016 - 12:13

Yes, WW, you were clear. :)

 

I was referring to "but at anytime someone could offer us a patch...."

 

It was open (to interpretation), which is fine, since you are Open(Pli)... :D and they are also Open(E-A)... :) So, to my mind, it's a bit strange not to use it... ;)

 

Especially since - as I have shown - that "hack", as you call it (dunno why?), does give you a name of the device, so I really don't understand your difficulty, as a lay person... And since you are trying to approach it from a lay person's POV, here is a lay person telling you I think this works great and it is good for lay people! I have talked about it with many other lay people and IT pros, developers of E2 images, so I do know it is OK... :)

 

Seriously, take it, please, it's good and it works.


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Posted 1 June 2016 - 12:22

It's very simple, we have different quality requirements. And I'll leave it at that.


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Posted 1 June 2016 - 14:52

Also these ugly broadcast solutions only work on a flat network.


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