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[Rob van der Does]

@huevos, can you check if we have a good frequency for scrs > 8?... Out switches for testing had only 6 scrs... It could als be some 'filter' in our code...

So you've actually never been testing any JESS switches?

[littlesat]

Yep... we tested on JESS switches... but mine did not have >6 scrs as I tested with the JP1702-6A. That was why I could imagine something is incorrect in the 'filtering/bitmapping'.- but still the protocol is the same...

 

But as far I can see there is no 'fitler' or incorrect bitmap in our code (sec.cpp)... So it for now I'm thinking about an incorrect frequency in the xml table -or- when manually configured a manual configured frequency... -or- something else (bug)...

 

When 1-8 works... it should work for the others aswell....

Edited by littlesat, 14 December 2016 - 08:07.

[Dimitrij]

Unicable circular LNB exist?

[Huevos]

@huevos, can you check if we have a good frequency for scrs > 8?...

SCR list is correct.

Edited by Huevos, 14 December 2016 - 09:12.

[Huevos]

Unicable circular LNB exist?

No!

[littlesat]

I'm afraid we need adapt (or better say cleanup) some additional code in...

 

RESULT eDVBSatelliteEquipmentControl::prepare(iDVBFrontend &frontend, const eDVBFrontendParametersSatellite &sat, int &frequency, int slot_id, unsigned int tunetimeout)

 

the block around line 421...

it can be that is is just sending out UNICABLE commands and therefore scr > 8 cannot work... 

Edited by littlesat, 14 December 2016 - 09:21.

[Rob van der Does]

Yep... we tested on JESS switches... but mine did not have >6 scrs as I tested with the JP1702-6A. ...

But <6SCR sounds like Unicable I....

I looked at the catalogue at http://www.jultec.de/products.html but I can't find the type you mentioned.

[littlesat]

Nope the switch has 4 positions.... That;s all except unicable....

But at least I think I found the thing Huevos experienced... And it sounds like we can double some code and/or try to structurise it again.... (why was it somehow twice in there on the first place???)

 

JESS has unicable backup and I suggest Erik did not discover the >8 scr issue due to this...(in combination with the JESS switch we're testing with)...

 

This is a nice and good report... and it should be solvable in a relatively easy way...

Edited by littlesat, 14 December 2016 - 10:04.

[Huevos]

It can be that is is just sending out UNICABLE commands and therefore scr > 8 cannot work... 

Sounds like incorrect DICTION. My LNB supports EN50494 on SCRs 1-8 and EN50607 on SCRs 1-32.

[Rob van der Does]

Which is default AFAIK, to make SCR 1-8 backwards compatible.

[littlesat]

Sounds like incorrect DICTION. My LNB supports EN50494 on SCRs 1-8 and EN50607 on SCRs 1-32.

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Nope... I already found something see my pre previous post....(around the block around line 421 in sec.cpp) In that part of the code it seems only unicable EN???) is executed... (or did I forget a format="jess" in the xml file for this device - this can be simply adapted)....

 

EN50494 and EN50607 is so mega anti human... so we used unicable and jess in our code...  Makes the stuff much more readable...
 

Edited by littlesat, 14 December 2016 - 10:42.

[Eragon]

Info about JESS/EN50607 tuner settings:

 

when configuring a tuner for using a JESS/EN50607 user band, should also the DiSEqC option be activated (1.0), even if only 1 sat position is present and no DiSEqC switches are used?

 

I'm asking this because I read that the STB should select the JESS/EN50607 user band to use issuing DiSEqC commands...

[Huevos]

Sounds like incorrect DICTION. My LNB supports EN50494 on SCRs 1-8 and EN50607 on SCRs 1-32.

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Nope... I already found something see my pre previous post....(around the block around line 421 in sec.cpp) In that part of the code it seems only unicable EN???) is executed... (or did I forget a format="jess" in the xml file for this device - this can be simply adapted)....

 

EN50494 and EN50607 is so mega anti human... so we used unicable and jess in our code...  Makes the stuff much more readable...
 

The xml is correct. Have you committed a change related to 421? Not sure what you meant.

[littlesat]

I did not commit anything yet... When around line 421 indeed something is incorrect Erik will adapt this...

[littlesat]

when configuring a tuner for using a JESS/EN50607 user band, should also the DiSEqC option be activated (1.0), even if only 1 sat position is present and no DiSEqC switches are used?

 

I'm asking this because I read that the STB should select the JESS/EN50607 user band to use issuing DiSEqC commands...

You should be able still to config all Diseqc modes as before when enabling jess...

[Eragon]

Yes, the DiSEqC option is still available when selecting a JESS switch... but then, should I enable it even if I have only 1 sat position and no DiSEqC switch?

 

Because in my tests (performed without the DiSEqC option activated) I was able to use only the first 2 JESS/EN50607 user bands of my multiswitch...

[Huevos]

Yes, the DiSEqC option is still available when selecting a JESS switch... but then, should I enable it even if I have only 1 sat position and no DiSEqC switch?

 

Because in my tests (performed without the DiSEqC option activated) I was able to use only the first 2 JESS/EN50607 user bands of my multiswitch...

Sounds like a the switch is operating in a non standard way. Lots of conventional multiswitches with this issue.

[Erik Slagter]

Some findings from further testing...

 

Sat cable moved from Tuner A to Tuner B, Tuner A configured as "Connect to: Tuner B"

 

Tuner A: 6 - Tuner B: 5 --> ONLY ONE CHANNEL AT A TIME WORKS

Tuner A: 5 - Tuner B: 6 --> ONLY ONE CHANNEL AT A TIME WORKS

 

So, to get 2 channels tuned at the same time, the cable must be connected to Tuner A and Tuner A must be assigned to the first available JESS (EN50607) SCR user band.

 

I didn't play with the tuner priority configuration options, all left as default after image installation.

Are you using two Unicable type switches on one cable?

[Erik Slagter]

 

Yep... we tested on JESS switches... but mine did not have >6 scrs as I tested with the JP1702-6A. ...

But <6SCR sounds like Unicable I....

I looked at the catalogue at http://www.jultec.de/products.html but I can't find the type you mentioned.

That's what we call "spuit 11" here. Yes, this type of switch reallye exists, yes we have it and yes it does have a JESS interface (beside also the Unicable legacy compatibility). It needs to have JESS support because it can support four positions. System is like this: 17 is 17 inputs (4*4+1), 2 outputs (independent, so every user band is used twice), 6 user bands. Nothing weird.

[Erik Slagter]

 

It can be that is is just sending out UNICABLE commands and therefore scr > 8 cannot work... 

Sounds like incorrect DICTION. My LNB supports EN50494 on SCRs 1-8 and EN50607 on SCRs 1-32.

This is normal JESS device behaviour. If you control it as JESS device, all works fine. If somehow/somewhere we forgot to lift a limitation on positions or user bands for JESS, then it should be addressed accordingly.