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Re: Announcement: JESS support #41 Rob van der Does

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 07:52

@huevos, can you check if we have a good frequency for scrs > 8?... Out switches for testing had only 6 scrs... It could als be some 'filter' in our code...

So you've actually never been testing any JESS switches?



Re: Announcement: JESS support #42 littlesat

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 08:00

Yep... we tested on JESS switches... but mine did not have >6 scrs as I tested with the JP1702-6A. That was why I could imagine something is incorrect in the 'filtering/bitmapping'.- but still the protocol is the same...

 

But as far I can see there is no 'fitler' or incorrect bitmap in our code (sec.cpp)... So it for now I'm thinking about an incorrect frequency in the xml table -or- when manually configured a manual configured frequency... -or- something else (bug)...

 

When 1-8 works... it should work for the others aswell....


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Re: Announcement: JESS support #43 Dimitrij

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 09:06

Unicable circular LNB exist?


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Re: Announcement: JESS support #44 Huevos

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 09:11

@huevos, can you check if we have a good frequency for scrs > 8?...

SCR list is correct.


Edited by Huevos, 14 December 2016 - 09:12.


Re: Announcement: JESS support #45 Huevos

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 09:11

Unicable circular LNB exist?

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Re: Announcement: JESS support #46 littlesat

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 09:17

I'm afraid we need adapt (or better say cleanup) some additional code in...

 

RESULT eDVBSatelliteEquipmentControl::prepare(iDVBFrontend &frontend, const eDVBFrontendParametersSatellite &sat, int &frequency, int slot_id, unsigned int tunetimeout)

 

the block around line 421...

it can be that is is just sending out UNICABLE commands and therefore scr > 8 cannot work... 


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Re: Announcement: JESS support #47 Rob van der Does

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 09:34

Yep... we tested on JESS switches... but mine did not have >6 scrs as I tested with the JP1702-6A. ...

But <6SCR sounds like Unicable I....

I looked at the catalogue at http://www.jultec.de/products.html but I can't find the type you mentioned.



Re: Announcement: JESS support #48 littlesat

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 10:01

Nope the switch has 4 positions.... That;s all except unicable.... ;)

But at least I think I found the thing Huevos experienced... And it sounds like we can double some code and/or try to structurise it again.... (why was it somehow twice in there on the first place???)

 

JESS has unicable backup and I suggest Erik did not discover the >8 scr issue due to this...(in combination with the JESS switch we're testing with)...

 

This is a nice and good report... and it should be solvable in a relatively easy way... :D


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Re: Announcement: JESS support #49 Huevos

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 10:10

It can be that is is just sending out UNICABLE commands and therefore scr > 8 cannot work... 

Sounds like incorrect DICTION. My LNB supports EN50494 on SCRs 1-8 and EN50607 on SCRs 1-32.



Re: Announcement: JESS support #50 Rob van der Does

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 10:15

Which is default AFAIK, to make SCR 1-8 backwards compatible.



Re: Announcement: JESS support #51 littlesat

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 10:39

Sounds like incorrect DICTION. My LNB supports EN50494 on SCRs 1-8 and EN50607 on SCRs 1-32.

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Nope... I already found something see my pre previous post....(around the block around line 421 in sec.cpp) In that part of the code it seems only unicable EN???) is executed... (or did I forget a format="jess" in the xml file for this device - this can be simply adapted)....

 

EN50494 and EN50607 is so mega anti human... so we used unicable and jess in our code... :D Makes the stuff much more readable...
 


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Re: Announcement: JESS support #52 Eragon

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 12:06

Info about JESS/EN50607 tuner settings:

 

when configuring a tuner for using a JESS/EN50607 user band, should also the DiSEqC option be activated (1.0), even if only 1 sat position is present and no DiSEqC switches are used?

 

I'm asking this because I read that the STB should select the JESS/EN50607 user band to use issuing DiSEqC commands...



Re: Announcement: JESS support #53 Huevos

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 12:22

Sounds like incorrect DICTION. My LNB supports EN50494 on SCRs 1-8 and EN50607 on SCRs 1-32.

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Nope... I already found something see my pre previous post....(around the block around line 421 in sec.cpp) In that part of the code it seems only unicable EN???) is executed... (or did I forget a format="jess" in the xml file for this device - this can be simply adapted)....

 

EN50494 and EN50607 is so mega anti human... so we used unicable and jess in our code... :D Makes the stuff much more readable...
 

The xml is correct. Have you committed a change related to 421? Not sure what you meant.



Re: Announcement: JESS support #54 littlesat

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 12:30

I did not commit anything yet... When around line 421 indeed something is incorrect Erik will adapt this...


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Re: Announcement: JESS support #55 littlesat

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 12:32

when configuring a tuner for using a JESS/EN50607 user band, should also the DiSEqC option be activated (1.0), even if only 1 sat position is present and no DiSEqC switches are used?

 

I'm asking this because I read that the STB should select the JESS/EN50607 user band to use issuing DiSEqC commands...

You should be able still to config all Diseqc modes as before when enabling jess...


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Re: Announcement: JESS support #56 Eragon

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 12:49

Yes, the DiSEqC option is still available when selecting a JESS switch... but then, should I enable it even if I have only 1 sat position and no DiSEqC switch?

 

Because in my tests (performed without the DiSEqC option activated) I was able to use only the first 2 JESS/EN50607 user bands of my multiswitch...



Re: Announcement: JESS support #57 Huevos

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 14:14

Yes, the DiSEqC option is still available when selecting a JESS switch... but then, should I enable it even if I have only 1 sat position and no DiSEqC switch?

 

Because in my tests (performed without the DiSEqC option activated) I was able to use only the first 2 JESS/EN50607 user bands of my multiswitch...

Sounds like a the switch is operating in a non standard way. Lots of conventional multiswitches with this issue.



Re: Announcement: JESS support #58 Erik Slagter

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 15:41

Some findings from further testing...

 

Sat cable moved from Tuner A to Tuner B, Tuner A configured as "Connect to: Tuner B"

 

Tuner A: 6 - Tuner B: 5 --> ONLY ONE CHANNEL AT A TIME WORKS

Tuner A: 5 - Tuner B: 6 --> ONLY ONE CHANNEL AT A TIME WORKS

 

So, to get 2 channels tuned at the same time, the cable must be connected to Tuner A and Tuner A must be assigned to the first available JESS (EN50607) SCR user band.

 

I didn't play with the tuner priority configuration options, all left as default after image installation.

Are you using two Unicable type switches on one cable?


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Re: Announcement: JESS support #59 Erik Slagter

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 15:44

 

Yep... we tested on JESS switches... but mine did not have >6 scrs as I tested with the JP1702-6A. ...

But <6SCR sounds like Unicable I....

I looked at the catalogue at http://www.jultec.de/products.html but I can't find the type you mentioned.

That's what we call "spuit 11" here. Yes, this type of switch reallye exists, yes we have it and yes it does have a JESS interface (beside also the Unicable legacy compatibility). It needs to have JESS support because it can support four positions. System is like this: 17 is 17 inputs (4*4+1), 2 outputs (independent, so every user band is used twice), 6 user bands. Nothing weird.


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Re: Announcement: JESS support #60 Erik Slagter

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 15:46

 

It can be that is is just sending out UNICABLE commands and therefore scr > 8 cannot work... 

Sounds like incorrect DICTION. My LNB supports EN50494 on SCRs 1-8 and EN50607 on SCRs 1-32.

This is normal JESS device behaviour. If you control it as JESS device, all works fine. If somehow/somewhere we forgot to lift a limitation on positions or user bands for JESS, then it should be addressed accordingly.


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