Posted 2 July 2017 - 14:28
Offline decode by softcam you need as far I know only ECM record and when you want to use offline decode then the record shouldn't been descrambled at all.
Can you check if the test record in file *.meta has at the end 188 0 (allready descrambled) or 188 1 (not descrambled)
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Posted 2 July 2017 - 14:32
Using the softcam, it works fine. It's the CI that is the issue.
I got a step further, I now tried to do an offline decode of the recording (instead of direct playback), while watching an FTA broadcast. After 10-15sec, a CI message pops up saying I don't have the rights to access the programme, and it doesn't decode. Which is weird, because live there is no access issue to the same channel.
The original recording has "188 1" at the end, the offline decoded file meta has "188 0" at the end, but it is not decoded and doesn't play.
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Posted 2 July 2017 - 14:42
Using the softcam, it works fine. It's the CI that is the issue.
I got a step further, I now tried to do an offline decode of the recording (instead of direct playback), while watching an FTA broadcast. After 10-15sec, a CI message pops up saying I don't have the rights to access the programme, and it doesn't decode. Which is weird, because live there is no access issue to the same channel.
The original recording has "188 1" at the end, the offline decoded file meta has "188 0" at the end, but it is not decoded and doesn't play.
Try follow just as trick. Play a media file and stop the media, you must now stay in the movielist. So you will not go back to TV (left upper window is black). Now start to decode your record (file with meta 188 1). Wait till record is complete done any interruption will fail the descramble.
Edited by WTE, 2 July 2017 - 14:43.
Mut@nt HD51 STB 4K
Posted 2 July 2017 - 14:58
The hardware must support remux CI and boxes like Xtrend 9*00, 8000 and 10000 doesn't have this option.
Edited by athoik, 2 July 2017 - 14:58.
Posted 2 July 2017 - 15:40
Try follow just as trick. Play a media file and stop the media, you must now stay in the movielist. So you will not go back to TV (left upper window is black). Now start to decode your record (file with meta 188 1). Wait till record is complete done any interruption will fail the descramble.
Doesn't really change anything. It creates a 24-hour timer, it creates a "recording name - decoded" file of about 10 seconds, it doesn't decode anything, and that's it.
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Posted 2 July 2017 - 16:34
The hardware must support remux CI and boxes like Xtrend 9*00, 8000 and 10000 doesn't have this option.
I also read that hardwiring does matter, if the CI is hardwired to receive TS not only for tuners but also from memory (DVR) it will work.
So remux is the correct term to use? Or both proper hardwiring and remux CI required?
Maybe other chip manufactures call it different but Broadcom calls it remux (rmx).
In past the TS signal went first to CI to decode it or bypass (like ET8000/ET10000) and then it arrived by the TS input from the main CPU.
Now-a-days the TS go direct to TS input and use the TS output/rmx port to CI and from CI to a new TS input port when it need to been decode by CI.
Mut@nt HD51 STB 4K
Posted 2 July 2017 - 17:31
The hardware must support remux CI and boxes like Xtrend 9*00, 8000 and 10000 doesn't have this option.
I also read that hardwiring does matter, if the CI is hardwired to receive TS not only for tuners but also from memory (DVR) it will work.
So remux is the correct term to use? Or both proper hardwiring and remux CI required?
Maybe other chip manufactures call it different but Broadcom calls it remux (rmx).
In past the TS signal went first to CI to decode it or bypass (like ET8000/ET10000) and then it arrived by the TS input from the main CPU.
Now-a-days the TS go direct to TS input and use the TS output/rmx port to CI and from CI to a new TS input port when it need to been decode by CI.
Edited by athoik, 2 July 2017 - 17:34.
Posted 2 July 2017 - 18:13
Dreamboxes, Edision (all), Hd51, vs1500.
Tried again my osmini - it not supports offline decoding... how is possible, that your osmini does it ?
Posted 2 July 2017 - 18:16
Tried again my osmini - it not supports offline decoding... how is possible, that your osmini does it ?Dreamboxes, Edision (all), Hd51, vs1500.
Posted 2 July 2017 - 18:21
disabled oscam, enabled ECM, enabled Not decoding ... recorded 20 minuts ... enable oscam ... playback without A/V, timescale running very fast ...
Playback this recorded files on next boxes is ok...
Posted 2 July 2017 - 18:53
What do you mean with "softcam enabled but not active"?
Posted 2 July 2017 - 20:30
Yeah, (2) was reported before.
I believe it depends on how you record it. If you are watching the channel you record, it descrambles so you can watch it, and it will record descrambled. If you watch something else, it will honour the flag and record scrambled. So perhaps it has something to do with the location in the flow where the datastream is "tapped off" for recording.
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Posted 3 July 2017 - 09:33
Tried again my osmini - it not supports offline decoding... how is possible, that your osmini does it ?Dreamboxes, Edision (all), Hd51, vs1500.
All Edision support the CW API.
The osmega was confirmed as offline decoding via softcam, but not CI.
Do you have some new edisions' firmware in osmini or what ? Because I tried it many times and no success... only this one box of my boxes not supports it.
Posted 3 July 2017 - 17:56
It still descrambles, regardless of the setting in the recording, and regardless whether that actually results in something playable. Apparently the whole ECM setting in the recording is being ignored.
No, this is a known issue, and has been for years. It will only work reliably if the receiver is in standby. If watching/recording a service on the same transponder or maybe even the same provider, valid codewords pass the descrambler and then it will do what it does best.
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Posted 3 July 2017 - 20:02
Do you have some new edisions' firmware in osmini or what ? Because I tried it many times and no success... only this one box of my boxes not supports it.
Posted 3 July 2017 - 21:06
188 0 and 188 1 at the end of the meta.... I can use it in the decode in standby functionality ????
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Posted 12 July 2017 - 18:03
It still descrambles, regardless of the setting in the recording, and regardless whether that actually results in something playable. Apparently the whole ECM setting in the recording is being ignored.
No, this is a known issue, and has been for years. It will only work reliably if the receiver is in standby. If watching/recording a service on the same transponder or maybe even the same provider, valid codewords pass the descrambler and then it will do what it does best.
So that would mean you can never watch something and record at the same time? The box is probably destroying the recording by applying bad controlwords.
Posted 12 July 2017 - 18:37
I would not say "never", but there is no guarantee.
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Posted 17 July 2017 - 15:15
On another forum I read this:
Alle CI + modules hebben hun beperkingen, achteraf decoderen lukt hier wel met de ET 8500 en OPENATV, laten aan staan in gewone standby.
Translation: All CI+ modules have limitations, off-line decoding works witht an ET-8500 ana OpenATV, just leave the receiver in standby.
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Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:12
HD51 (and related boxes) extended cw api only in mode 1... not in mode 12.
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