Yes agree, it should be called "off".Deep standby isn't standby at all, it's "off" (for all intents and purposes) for most users. So "Switch receiver off" would be better.
And I absolutely protest against using the word "box".
Proposal from renaming the "Standby / restart" menu
Started by nautilus7, 16 Oct 2018 00:17
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Re: Proposal from renaming the "Standby / restart" menu #21
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Posted 16 October 2018 - 18:28
And I absolutely protest against using the word "box".
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Posted 16 October 2018 - 18:49
"Deep standby" != "Shutdown"
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Posted 16 October 2018 - 18:52
1) it almost is
2) for most users it will be far more clear
Most users don't understand the difference between standby and deep standby, really.
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Posted 16 October 2018 - 18:53
Why not? And what does the average end-user care about a difference (if any)?
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Posted 16 October 2018 - 18:56
Most users will compare standby with the standby on the TV set. Which is not comparable to both standby and deep standby of enigma.
Standby on TV set means everything off, almost no power usage, only "on" button works and if you press it, it will be on within a second.
That mostly resembles the "deep standby" of enigma, with the difference that you'll have to wait for 30-120 seconds before you can anything.
The "standby" of enigma has no resemblence to the "standby" of the TV set.
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Re: Proposal from renaming the "Standby / restart" menu #26
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Posted 16 October 2018 - 22:13
If I had to change menu entries, I would do as follows:
Sleep Timer
Simple Standby
Full Restart
Simple Restart
Full Standby
...and I'd sort them ….. the most used to the less used.
ST
SR
FR
FS
SS
The sleep timer is the most used?
No, but as it's on first place, I didn't move it.
I've never used it.
I would move it to another menu.
and what about…..
Light Restart
Full Restart
Total Standby
Light Standby
Enigma is getting old....
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Re: Proposal from renaming the "Standby / restart" menu #27
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Posted 16 October 2018 - 22:42
No end-user will understand "light, full and total"...
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Re: Proposal from renaming the "Standby / restart" menu #28
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Posted 16 October 2018 - 23:37
If it has to be understood by all users......
Fast Restart
Total Restart
Eco Power Standby 
Fast awakening Standby
(joking...)
Edited by jpuigs, 16 October 2018 - 23:39.
Enigma is getting old....
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Posted 16 October 2018 - 23:54
Fast full Total....does quickly completely and fully includely not tell what really happens...
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Posted 17 October 2018 - 00:01
..... and talking about most end users..... who really cares what happens ?
Enigma is getting old....
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Posted 17 October 2018 - 07:09
sleeptimer, standby, power off (or power down, this is the deep stand-by), restart all, restart partly, restart partly in debug mode might be an inproved approach...? Where partly could still stay enigma2?
Edited by littlesat, 17 October 2018 - 07:11.
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Posted 17 October 2018 - 08:47
Partly is 1/6 or 1/2 or 3/4 ?
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Posted 17 October 2018 - 08:56
Partly is 1/6 or 1/2 or 3/4 ?
Where partly could still stay enigma2?
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Re: Proposal from renaming the "Standby / restart" menu #34
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Posted 17 October 2018 - 10:12
I would get rid of all "technical" terms. No "enigma", "enigma2", "box", "dreambox", but go for "receiver" and "user interface" or "GUI".
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Re: Proposal from renaming the "Standby / restart" menu #35
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Posted 17 October 2018 - 10:12
Sleep timer
Standby
Power off
"Restart" or "Restart receiver"
"Restart user interface" or "Restart user interface only"
For the title of this menu, I would like "Power" or "Power options" and not "Power menu" that someone suggested above, because we are navigating in the menus anyway, so the word menu is redundant....
Edited by nautilus7, 17 October 2018 - 10:15.
Re: Proposal from renaming the "Standby / restart" menu #36
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Posted 17 October 2018 - 10:13
"Power options" sounds fine by me.
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Posted 17 October 2018 - 10:33
It should also be distinguished visually ... if there will be 3 x "Restart ..." with almost same length, it will not happy solution.
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Posted 17 October 2018 - 10:38
Restart receiver
Restart user interface
Restart user interface in debug mode
They look pretty distinguishable to me.
And in Greek they would look like:
Επανεκκίνηση δέκτη
Επανεκκίνηση διεπαφής χρήστη
Επανεκκίνηση διεπαφής χρήση σε λειτουργία εύρεσης σφαλμάτων
Edited by nautilus7, 17 October 2018 - 10:41.
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Posted 17 October 2018 - 10:55
funny, when translator translate "Επανεκκίνηση δέκτη" to "Reboot receiver" Next funny is, how we want use there understandable names and there will be line "restart gui in debug mode". WW, how you will translate it for your parents ? 
My idea about restart GUI in debug mode - it has not place there in power menu, but it should be as switch somewhere in configuration (as expert only):
Restarting GUI in debug mode: Yes = always in debug mode, No = always in standard mode
Edited by ims, 17 October 2018 - 10:59.
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Posted 17 October 2018 - 11:01
My parents won't see that, I don't give them expert mode. For items in expert mode, I don't mind the terms be a big technical. 
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