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[WanWizard]

I don't have details, I'm not working on it myself.

[Dester]

Hi, when you have a beta and want me to give it a try I'm here

[mimisiku]

Why whining/begging so much??? If you want an OpenPli certified receiver, check the list and buy one of those. It's NOT the other way around: let's buy a receiver and then demand OpenPli for it....

[twol]

Why whining/begging so much??? If you want an OpenPli certified receiver, check the list and buy one of those. It's NOT the other way around: let's buy a receiver and then demand OpenPli for it....

You are absolutely correct, evaluate the best receiver for your needs and then choose an image that supports that receiver's features.

[WanWizard]

The answer is the same as always, it is ready when it's ready. Which is when you will see an RC appear.

[Dester]

 

 

 

 

Why whining/begging so much??? If you want an OpenPli certified receiver, check the list and buy one of those. It's NOT the other way around: let's buy a receiver and then demand OpenPli for it....

 

I chose gigablue sure that it had so many images to try and the menu deceived me.
I only proposed to do tests, at the moment I have 4 images in multiboot, if you just wanted to watch TV, one would be enough, don't you think?
The 4k boxes are all new, it is normal that at the beginning they have problems, and I don't think the developers can have them all available to test them.
At the moment of the 4 images that I have available I would say that open atv, openhdf and opendroid are on the same level ....
I don't like the others but it's just my personal opinion.
If wanting to collaborate for you is crying or begging ...

I chose gigablue sure that it had so many images to try and the menu deceived me.
I only proposed to do tests, at the moment I have 4 images in multiboot, if you just wanted to watch TV, one would be enough, don't you think?
The 4k boxes are all new, it is normal that at the beginning they have problems, and I don't think the developers can have them all available to test them.
At the moment of the 4 images that I have available I would say that open atv, openhdf and opendroid are on the same level ....
I don't like the others but it's just my personal opinion.
If wanting to collaborate for you is crying or begging ...

[twol]

 

 

 

 

 

Why whining/begging so much??? If you want an OpenPli certified receiver, check the list and buy one of those. It's NOT the other way around: let's buy a receiver and then demand OpenPli for it....

 

I chose gigablue sure that it had so many images to try and the menu deceived me.
I only proposed to do tests, at the moment I have 4 images in multiboot, if you just wanted to watch TV, one would be enough, don't you think?
The 4k boxes are all new, it is normal that at the beginning they have problems, and I don't think the developers can have them all available to test them.
At the moment of the 4 images that I have available I would say that open atv, openhdf and opendroid are on the same level ....
I don't like the others but it's just my personal opinion.
If wanting to collaborate for you is crying or begging ...

I chose gigablue sure that it had so many images to try and the menu deceived me.
I only proposed to do tests, at the moment I have 4 images in multiboot, if you just wanted to watch TV, one would be enough, don't you think?
The 4k boxes are all new, it is normal that at the beginning they have problems, and I don't think the developers can have them all available to test them.
At the moment of the 4 images that I have available I would say that open atv, openhdf and opendroid are on the same level ....
I don't like the others but it's just my personal opinion.
If wanting to collaborate for you is crying or begging ...

 

So you have tried 4 images - so whats wrong apart from the fact they don‘t say OpenPli? This is not a new box its been around for over a year - as has a similar box the sf8008

Edited by twol, 30 April 2020 - 18:15.

[senkfox]

Do we have any progress on the new image yet?
or do we know the testing date?

[WanWizard]

The answer is the same as always, it is ready when it's ready. Which is when you will see an RC appear.

 

[senkfox]

ok

thanks

[SatM]

Hi all,

 it is my first time writing in this forum (obviously not for reading). Since my first DBox, SkyStar, DM7000 and AZBOX units, a lot has happened.

 

 Recently I bought a GB Trio 4K, assuming a "simple" application as DVD player (or DVD backup), even they are from last century, working perfectly in a Raspberry PI (or Orange PI), could also work (with minimum ARM CPU load) in this STB, so, I can fully understand and support the interest by @Dester in using DVD (or even BluRay), physical disks, ISO or AUDIO/VIDEO folders, with a "GB Trio 4K" STB able to process smoothly 4K (UHD).

 Once solved the drive detection (/dev/sr0), I was also trying with different images (compatible with bootloader by TeamBlue, and based on OpenPLI), different players (streamers), different applications (including KODI, VLC, etc) and the behaviour is similar, DVD menues are not appearing, VOB files can be played only individually (in some of them), DV backup to ISO has errors and the box is frozen (for instance in HDF 4.5 with dedicated DVD playing menu), requiring a reboot (as killing SCSI processes was not effective). I've not tested ISO files from Bluray disks (with BR player), but folder structure is recognized.

 

 I think @Dester was very clear and kind, offering him(her)self to beta testing for new OpenPLI, focused on this DVD/BD issue.

 

 Thanks a lot for considering also same interest on solving/analyzing the issue from legacy "DBOX" fans, like myself  ;-))

 

MfG

 

SatM

Edited by SatM, 24 May 2020 - 06:51.

[Dester]

Hi, welcome and thank you for your words.
After trying "amiko viper combo 4k", a nice fast box that doesn't fit my taste, I went to the "gigablue trio 4k".
I've always been happy with gigablue and I've never had any big problems.
You can imagine the disappointment when I had to contend that my DVDs could not work ...
Since I have a box with tuner dtt T1 I also decided to try "octagon sf8008 4k" since the latter is supported by "open pli" unlike the others; only later did I discover that all 3 have the same processor.
I wrote to gigablue: they replied that no 4k supports the playback of DVDs thinking that a more expensive box could solve my problem.

I also wrote to octagon and they invited me to write on their forum and nobody listened to them ...

On the open HDF forum, I was hoping for some help since their image has a separate plug for DVDs (I would like to know how to make it independent on other images too) but among those who advised me to download mkv films .... frankly for now I will wait that some of the programmers wake up .....

Only here in private have I noticed interest in the problem ....

In my opinion it is a big shortcoming for these new boxes.

For now for this lack I will not recommend anyone to take boxes with HiSilicon Hi3798MV200 processor.

Happy Sunday everyone.

[WanWizard]

For now for this lack I will not recommend anyone to take boxes with HiSilicon Hi3798MV200 processor.

 

You should say "if you intent to play DVD's, I will not recommend a box with a HiSil processor", which is more correct.

 

It looks like the functionality required is simply not implemented in the drivers, and I assume all manufacturers using this platform are using the same SDK.

 

So this is something HiSil needs to address, nothing much any of the E2 development teams can do much about...

[Dester]

I always give a motivation when they ask me for advice, often going against my interests, for example some friends choose a box if it has a tuner output or not so as to have a cable and 2 devices in operation, who without integrated wifi does not buy because it doesn't want to waste time with driver ect.
Personally not being able to watch the media that I have been collecting for 20 years is a big limitation since a 20 € TVbox does it.

I know that enigma2 developers can't do anything, otherwise it would have already been solved.

For the gigablue trio 4k I just hope the openpli will come out soon.

[SatM]

Hi,

 I've just contacted with GB to know if they knew about this limitation, in fact, in the user manual they refer to external DVD as one possibility to connect in USB ports.

 

 Also, it seems there are several "Android TV" (i.e. Linux) HiMedia boxes with same (or even, less powerful) Hisilicon (Huawei) chip, which support 3D BD-ISO and BD-ISO with KODI ("../.. support full frame packed 3D BD-ISO and 1:1 BI-ISO rips, with BD-lite menus allowing chapter and subtitle selection; Himedia Q10 Pro comes with pre-installed KODI, with integral hardware video decoding, supports DTS-HD, 4K@60fps, 10 bit color, and 3D ISO support"), so, the drivers (for BluRay, and probably DVD/CD) are there, it'd be a challenging task of integration with E2, if OpenPli developers have interest on it (once other issues with other drivers are resolved).

 

 There are also support for HTML5, VP9, 3D MVC, etc

 

 

SatM

[twol]

Hi,

 I've just contacted with GB to know if they knew about this limitation, in fact, in the user manual they refer to external DVD as one possibility to connect in USB ports.

 

 Also, it seems there are several "Android TV" (i.e. Linux) HiMedia boxes with same (or even, less powerful) Hisilicon (Huawei) chip, which support 3D BD-ISO and BD-ISO with KODI ("../.. support full frame packed 3D BD-ISO and 1:1 BI-ISO rips, with BD-lite menus allowing chapter and subtitle selection; Himedia Q10 Pro comes with pre-installed KODI, with integral hardware video decoding, supports DTS-HD, 4K@60fps, 10 bit color, and 3D ISO support"), so, the drivers (for BluRay, and probably DVD/CD) are there, it'd be a challenging task of integration with E2, if OpenPli developers have interest on it (once other issues with other drivers are resolved).

 

 There are also support for HTML5, VP9, 3D MVC, etc

 

 

SatM

Himedia Q10 Pro is an Android based highly specialised media player  (I have one) and even then it has its issues in playing media correctly - expecting their drivers (regardless of chip type) to be re-worked for a Linux Enigma is being overly optimistic!

........ and I bought the Q10 purely because expecting a system built for satellite/cable reception to hack Kodi or play DVD's etc like a specialised media player is just not going to happen.

Edited by twol, 26 May 2020 - 11:42.

[SatM]

@twol Nice to know you have a Q10 Pro (it uses same processor that GB Trio 4K, HiSilicon Hi3798MV200)

 

 I was looking in the Android 7 (and 5.2) FW (OFW/CFW) for Apps (and libraries) for playing BD-ISO (or VOB, TS, WMV, AVI, ISO, MP4, ...) files and there are several ones:

• HimediaVideoPlayer
• HiVideoPlayer
• MediaCenterEntrance_3D

 A first step is the analysis of their contents (Java, XML, ARM libandroid_runtime.so, etc) to understand how they work, but, probably you are right, it is a very optimistic view, and before waste our time the functionality of these Apps (for ISO playing and menu navigation) must be confirmed.