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#1 coom

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 21:06

Hi guys,

I am new to this forum and the openpli image, but both have been highly recommanded to me and I hope you may be able to solve my issue.

Unfortunately the forum software calssifies my post as spam,

what can I do?

 

KR

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Re: VU+ uno 4kse Unicable two satellites - recording issues #2 WanWizard

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 21:08

Welcome here. We'll try our best ;).

 

What are the issues?

 

What kind of unicable setup do you exactly have?

 

How you have configured your tuners?


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Re: VU+ uno 4kse Unicable two satellites - recording issues #3 coom

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 21:09

next try:

I use the above uno4kse with two FBC tuners.
tuner A is connecet to a telestar skywire unicable lnb (https://telestar.de/...skywire-hc-lnb/) pointing to Astra 28.2
tuner B is connecet to a telestar skywire unicable lnb (https://telestar.de/...skywire-hc-lnb/) pointing to Astra 19.2
tuner C-E are connected to A, tuner E-H are connected to B respectivly

setting e.g.:

config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.lof=unicable
config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.scrList=1
config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.unicableManufacturer=Telestar
config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.unicableProduct=Skywire HC LNB
config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.282.lnb=1
config.Nims.0.advanced.sats=282
config.Nims.0.configMode=advancedconfig.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.2.lof=unicable
config.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.2.scrList=1
config.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.2.unicableManufacturer=Telestar
config.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.2.unicableProduct=Skywire HC LNB
config.Nims.1.advanced.sat.192.lnb=2
config.Nims.1.advanced.sats=192
config.Nims.1.configMode=advancedconfig.Nims.2.advanced.lnb.1.lof=unicable
config.Nims.2.advanced.lnb.1.scrList=2
config.Nims.2.advanced.lnb.1.unicableManufacturer=Telestar
config.Nims.2.advanced.lnb.1.unicableProduct=Skywire HC LNB
config.Nims.2.advanced.sat.282.lnb=1
config.Nims.2.advanced.sats=282
config.Nims.2.advanced.unicableconnected=true
config.Nims.2.configMode=advanced....config.Nims.5.advanced.lnb.2.lof=unicable
config.Nims.5.advanced.lnb.2.scrList=2
config.Nims.5.advanced.lnb.2.unicableManufacturer=Telestar
config.Nims.5.advanced.lnb.2.unicableProduct=Skywire HC LNB
config.Nims.5.advanced.sat.192.lnb=2
config.Nims.5.advanced.sats=192
config.Nims.5.advanced.unicableconnected=true
config.Nims.5.advanced.unicableconnectedTo=1
config.Nims.5.configMode=advanced

all works fine, but:

when I watch a program von 19.2 e.g das erste and a recording starts on 28.2 eg. BBC one the screen turns black! tuner error!

if I switch to a different 19.2 program e.g. ZDF and start a second recording i get the same: tuner error, BUT: recording seems to start and when I switch back to das erst I can watch!

any ideas what went wrong?



Re: VU+ uno 4kse Unicable two satellites - recording issues #4 WanWizard

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 21:14

What OpenPLi version are you running?

 

Since you mention tuners A-H, you have one FBC tuner, not two. With input 1 and input 2 connected to two different unicable LNB's as I undestand it.

 

Can you post a screenshot of both the tuner overview page (easy to make with the webinterface, make a screenshot, save the image, then attach it here using "More reply options").


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Posted 26 January 2022 - 21:36

I thought the uni come with FBC Dual TunerAttached File  OpenPli81tuner.jpg   123.69KB   1 downloads


Edited by coom, 26 January 2022 - 21:37.


Re: VU+ uno 4kse Unicable two satellites - recording issues #6 WanWizard

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 21:53

Commercial blah, to make it look more than it is.

 

An FBC tuner card ( = one tuner PCB ) has two root tuners, two inputs, and 6 leaf tuners (internally looped through tuners).

 

The Uno 4K and Solo 4K have one of these, the Duo 4K and Ultimo 4K can have two, which gives you

 

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If you use both inputs, you have to define for tuners C - H if you want to have them connect to tuner A or tuner B (or tuner I and tuner J for the second FBC tuner card).

 

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Is this configured correctly in your case?


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Re: VU+ uno 4kse Unicable two satellites - recording issues #7 coom

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 22:34

first: I don't know how to make a screenshot like your second (other than taking a real photo from the TV sreen ;-( ). Great if yoiu could enlighten me.

second I'll give your proposal a try, let's see



Re: VU+ uno 4kse Unicable two satellites - recording issues #8 WanWizard

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 22:45

In the web interface, in the middle, there is a link "Bildschirminfo". That gives you the screen shot. Right-click on it, and save it.

 

Then use "More reply options" (next to the "post" button) to attach it to your post.


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Re: VU+ uno 4kse Unicable two satellites - recording issues #9 coom

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 23:05

thanks for this, realy great value already joining this forum. Last post for today:

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unfortunately with these setings only 28.2 (LNB 1) shows an image.

all chanels on 19.2 (LNB 2) stay dark.

more details of the HW:

two skywire lnbs:

1. facing 19.2 the unicable exit is direclty connect to the second  (inner) input of the tuner

2. facing 28.2 the unicable exit is direclty connect to the first  (outer) input of the tuner

 



Re: VU+ uno 4kse Unicable two satellites - recording issues #10 WanWizard

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Posted 27 January 2022 - 14:22

That is where it goes wrong.

 

You have two LNBs, each connected via a cable to an input. But your config says all tuners are connected to input A.

 

So you need to configure A for 28.2 only, configure B for 19.2 only, (assuming that is your LNB order) and then for C to H connect them to either A or B, depending on the userbands you have available.

 

You can only connect both to a single input (using a unicable combiner) if you don't have an overlap in userbands, for example if you have programmable LNB's and have programmed one LNB for UB1-16, and the other LNB for UB17-32.

 

In my case (the screenshot above), I only have input A connected, and it is connected to a Jultec Unicable switch providing those three positions.


Currently in use: VU+ Duo 4K (2xFBC S2), VU+ Solo 4K (1xFBC S2), uClan Usytm 4K Ultimate (S2+T2), Octagon SF8008 (S2+T2), Zgemma H9.2H (S2+T2)

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Re: VU+ uno 4kse Unicable two satellites - recording issues #11 coom

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Posted 27 January 2022 - 17:08

Hi Wiz,

 

I guess your proposal is similar to my original setting, as I tried to show in the listing in the second post.

As I have now learnt to make screenshots, will post one later ;-).



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Posted 27 January 2022 - 20:08

I´ve seen in your post 3 that you use

config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.282.lnb=1

and

config.Nims.1.advanced.sat.192lnb=2

 

I think you must use for both Sats LNB=1 because you doesn´t have LNB number 2. You have on both cables only LNB number 1. On the first cable for 282 and on the second cable for 192

 

How is your config now exactly?


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Re: VU+ uno 4kse Unicable two satellites - recording issues #13 WanWizard

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Posted 27 January 2022 - 20:56

Indeed, that is why I asked as well... ;)


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Re: VU+ uno 4kse Unicable two satellites - recording issues #14 coom

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Posted 27 January 2022 - 22:05

currently its 28.2 is set to LNB 1 and 19.2 to LNB 1Attached File  1_0_19_1B1C_802_2_11A0000_0_0_0_20220127215545.jpg   94.53KB   1 downloads

 

screen when recording on 28.2 (tuner a = activ) and switching to 19.2 (das erste HD) black screen (tuner a and B shown as activ)

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again: switching to ZDF HD and start recording same error message, tuner a and B iare shown as activ.

switching back to das ersten: perfect image tuners A,B and F! shown as activ



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Posted 27 January 2022 - 22:14

sorry typo in earler post:

28.2 LNB1

19.2 LNB 2

 

have now changed 19.2 to LNB 1, same result....



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Posted 27 January 2022 - 22:15

You haven't selected 19.2E Ka band instead of Ku band by any chance?


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Re: VU+ uno 4kse Unicable two satellites - recording issues #17 coom

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Posted 27 January 2022 - 22:29

OI don't think I have, the gui doesn't gives a choice, so i aussune the right band Ku band is used.

and without recording on 28.2 all chanels on 19.2 work just fine.Attached File  1_0_19_283D_3FB_1_C00000_0_0_0_20220127222957.jpg   89.19KB   1 downloads


Edited by coom, 27 January 2022 - 22:31.


Re: VU+ uno 4kse Unicable two satellites - recording issues #18 WanWizard

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Posted 27 January 2022 - 22:57

Sure the GUI gives you the choice, it is the first thing you need to select before you can configure all other unicable parameters:

 

 

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Re: VU+ uno 4kse Unicable two satellites - recording issues #19 coom

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Posted 27 January 2022 - 23:10

not for me:

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Re: VU+ uno 4kse Unicable two satellites - recording issues #20 WanWizard

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Posted 27 January 2022 - 23:13

Can you check the high-definition checkbox under the screenshot, so it is actually readable?

 

I can't comment on what that is, you seem to have loaded a custom satellites.xml.


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